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  1. Quote Originally Posted by yeegits View Post
    anyone buying this product, i recommend it, so far on day 18 , 4 pills a day, i gained about 6 pounds of muscle so far, literally no side effects, i will post a before and after picture when my cycle is finished
    How are the strength gains, when I ran 1-Andro transderm with 4AD back in the old days the strength gains were vivid....


  2. also should i start taking pct black now? on day 18?
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  3. strength gains were crazy good, bench went up 20 pounds, went from curling 30 pound dumbells 3 set of 8 to doing 40 lbs 3 sets of 10, etc, pretty much every routine / muscle i was working out had vivid gains

  4. Quote Originally Posted by yeegits View Post
    also should i start taking pct black now? on day 18?
    I personally like to and recommend to others to take 1 cap of PCT REVOLUTION Black every night during their cycle and following their cycle. Why not block the estrogen the entire time vs. just waiting until the end to use it to get rid of the build up of estrogen, why not just keep it in control the entire time??? Also, because the PCT Black is a very well balanced ingenius formula that protects and rejuvenates your liver, kidneys, prostate, & cardiovascular system on top of ridding the body of unwanted estrogen and kick-starting your body to produce more of its own natural testosterone! Seems like a "No-Brainer" to me, but to each his/her own!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  5. New to the site here Scotty. Read alot of this thread yesterday. I am 25, 6'4 225 and have taken 2 PH cycles in the last 4 years when playing college baseball. I have always been fairly lean and sit around 217-226. I am looking to stay in this range as I do not want to bulk up past 230 but want to cut my BF% down and add a few lbs of lean muscle mass. When getting my BF tested over the years from calipers/skinfold it ranges from 7-12%. I think it is probably 9-11.

    Anyways..... I was interested in taking/cycling Finaflex Andro 1 with yalls Epi product but was not sure the best way to do it. I took Epistane 1.5 years ago, took a SERM after, and was pleased but I did a 4 week cycle and shoulda have taken it longer and with a higher dosage because of my size and its weakness. I was looking in the 6-7 weeks(7 MAX) range and was not sure of the best way to do it, if I should take them both for 6-7 weeks or take 1 for 2-4 weeks and then start the other at weeks 3 or 4. I am not worried about PCT/protection as that seems to be covered on here well enough. I am more worried about what to stack/take now, and will then base my PCT on what I take accordingly.

    My diet is very clean and been an exercise science major and having taken Nutrition classes, I do not worry about calorie intake exactly but more of eating clean and what types of foods to eat and when.

    Thanks for the help ahead of time, you are a great resource.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    New to the site here Scotty. Read alot of this thread yesterday. I am 25, 6'4 225 and have taken 2 PH cycles in the last 4 years when playing college baseball. I have always been fairly lean and sit around 217-226. I am looking to stay in this range as I do not want to bulk up past 230 but want to cut my BF% down and add a few lbs of lean muscle mass. When getting my BF tested over the years from calipers/skinfold it ranges from 7-12%. I think it is probably 9-11.

    Anyways..... I was interested in taking/cycling Finaflex Andro 1 with yalls Epi product but was not sure the best way to do it. I took Epistane 1.5 years ago, took a SERM after, and was pleased but I did a 4 week cycle and shoulda have taken it longer and with a higher dosage because of my size and its weakness. I was looking in the 6-7 weeks(7 MAX) range and was not sure of the best way to do it, if I should take them both for 6-7 weeks or take 1 for 2-4 weeks and then start the other at weeks 3 or 4. I am not worried about PCT/protection as that seems to be covered on here well enough. I am more worried about what to stack/take now, and will then base my PCT on what I take accordingly.

    My diet is very clean and been an exercise science major and having taken Nutrition classes, I do not worry about calorie intake exactly but more of eating clean and what types of foods to eat and when.

    Thanks for the help ahead of time, you are a great resource.
    Matt... I'm not really clear as to what you want from me Bro? Happy to help, I read what you wrote twice and other than me just spitting out general information about the products or how I recommend taking them, I don't really see a direct question in there, forgive me if I just missed it!

    Are you looking for a Cycle Suggestion? One that will maintain your lean frame, but put a tiny bit more mass, but not at the expense of adding excess fat or bulk, as in you want to stay very athletic and agile, but more muscle and faster, right? If this is what you want, I actually have the perfect cycle suggestion for you, not going to be the cheapest cycle, but I guarantee you will love the results!

    1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 1 bottle of EPI-V, & 2 bottles of the new 550-XD Black

    The cycle length should be approximately 8 weeks total. For all 8 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of the 550-XD Black per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the 1st 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of 1-ANDRO per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the last 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of EPI-V per day (1 cap in the morning and 1 cap approx. 8hrs before you expect to go to sleep). EPI-V has stimulants in it, do not take less than 8hrs prior to bed or it may interfere with normal sleep. That my friend is a KILLER Cycle that will increase your strength, size, and help drop the fat, remember to eat extra clean while doing this, the supplements will do the rest (HIGH PROTEIN = 50%, low fat = 25%, & low carbs)!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Matt... I'm not really clear as to what you want from me Bro? Happy to help, I read what you wrote twice and other than me just spitting out general information about the products or how I recommend taking them, I don't really see a direct question in there, forgive me if I just missed it!

    Are you looking for a Cycle Suggestion? One that will maintain your lean frame, but put a tiny bit more mass, but not at the expense of adding excess fat or bulk, as in you want to stay very athletic and agile, but more muscle and faster, right? If this is what you want, I actually have the perfect cycle suggestion for you, not going to be the cheapest cycle, but I guarantee you will love the results!

    1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 1 bottle of EPI-V, & 2 bottles of the new 550-XD Black

    The cycle length should be approximately 8 weeks total. For all 8 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of the 550-XD Black per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the 1st 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of 1-ANDRO per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the last 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of EPI-V per day (1 cap in the morning and 1 cap approx. 8hrs before you expect to go to sleep). EPI-V has stimulants in it, do not take less than 8hrs prior to bed or it may interfere with normal sleep. That my friend is a KILLER Cycle that will increase your strength, size, and help drop the fat, remember to eat extra clean while doing this, the supplements will do the rest (HIGH PROTEIN = 50%, low fat = 25%, & low carbs)!
    Yah that sounds just peachy.. I am going to do that one likely this summer, gonna be big and ripped just like last summer!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Matt...
    Are you looking for a Cycle Suggestion? One that will maintain your lean frame, but put a tiny bit more mass, but not at the expense of adding excess fat or bulk, as in you want to stay very athletic and agile, but more muscle and faster, right? If this is what you want, I actually have the perfect cycle suggestion for you, not going to be the cheapest cycle, but I guarantee you will love the results!

    1 bottle of 1-ANDRO, 1 bottle of EPI-V, & 2 bottles of the new 550-XD Black

    The cycle length should be approximately 8 weeks total. For all 8 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of the 550-XD Black per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the 1st 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of 1-ANDRO per day (1 cap in the morning & 1 cap in the evening, approximately every 12hrs). For the last 4 weeks you should be taking 2 caps of EPI-V per day (1 cap in the morning and 1 cap approx. 8hrs before you expect to go to sleep). EPI-V has stimulants in it, do not take less than 8hrs prior to bed or it may interfere with normal sleep. That my friend is a KILLER Cycle that will increase your strength, size, and help drop the fat, remember to eat extra clean while doing this, the supplements will do the rest (HIGH PROTEIN = 50%, low fat = 25%, & low carbs)!
    Again thanks for the help. I am mainly looking to cut bodyfat while also gaining a few lbs of muscle. My LBM is good, just want to cut up a tad more and add a little more muscle. So yes what you asked above is correct What will would the main difference in adding the 550 in there? I was thinking more along the lines of 2 bottles andro and 2 bottles epi over 6-8 weeks. I do not want to gain water weight. I almost would rather play it safe and take 2 instead of 3 different PH's and I do not want to gain much weight and I think 550 will make it quite a bit bigger.

  9. What do you think about 1 bottle of 550, 1 of andro and 2 epi. Seems Epi will lean me out more versus 550 adding more weight. Thanks for all the help, just like to come up with perfect cycle and cover all bases before I jump into it

    Matt

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    What do you think about 1 bottle of 550, 1 of andro and 2 epi. Seems Epi will lean me out more versus 550 adding more weight. Thanks for all the help, just like to come up with perfect cycle and cover all bases before I jump into it

    Matt
    Matt... I still stick with my original suggestion, the 550 is going to be essential in adding strength, keeping you hard, lean, & dry as well as being very easy on the joints, as in it is a two step conversion to Norandalone (Deca) known by all bodybuilders to be very easy on the joints, helps lubricate them and keep them healthy, which is extremely important when trying to gain strength and mass, but also trying to stay lean, when trying to stay lean, the body has tendency to dry out and joints start to ache, this will not make you get watered down or bloated, but it will help keep the joints lubricated, get me, that is my reason for it being so important!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Matt... I still stick with my original suggestion, the 550 is going to be essential in adding strength, keeping you hard, lean, & dry as well as being very easy on the joints, as in it is a two step conversion to Norandalone (Deca) known by all bodybuilders to be very easy on the joints, helps lubricate them and keep them healthy, which is extremely important when trying to gain strength and mass, but also trying to stay lean, when trying to stay lean, the body has tendency to dry out and joints start to ache, this will not make you get watered down or bloated, but it will help keep the joints lubricated, get me, that is my reason for it being so important!
    Yah a 12 week bridge is plenty of time to recomp and cut as long as you are only about 15-20 lbs from your goal weight. You could do more in that time and AL as proven it but that is a severe cut he did and tough to duplicate. Myself I will plan to peak a bit slower. I love the way I did it last year. Bottom line is though Al did that serious but and lost next to no muscle. Plus Epi-v will have you looking hard, dry and lean in the end. Go to the EPI-V question thread where I posted some pics of me at 53 just at the end of my EPI-V run. It's pretty impressive.
  12. Question


    SCOTTYDOC WHAT IS YOUR OPINION FOR TIME OFF BETWEEN CYCLES ?.

  13. scotty when is the 550-xd available to buy?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by BUSA1300 View Post
    SCOTTYDOC WHAT IS YOUR OPINION FOR TIME OFF BETWEEN CYCLES ?.
    take as much time off as you had for you cycle, for example if your cycle was 60 days , take at LEAST 60 days off, if not more to be even safer

  15. I prefer to suggest time off = cycle time + pct time. so if you ran a 6 week cycle and 4 week pct, you'd want to stay off an aditional 10 weeks.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  16. Subd for future reference and curiosity. Been very interested in the epi. Not very familiar with the 1andro Nd also fear gainin too much weight/size, I prefer to stay under 170 as I am never truly lean above that... Water and bloat also very big concerns for me. I've run several ph cycles as a STUPID teenager and had bad experiences with all of them due to my lack of knowledge and resource like am! Glad there's people Out here willing to
    Help

  17. Quote Originally Posted by yeegits View Post
    take as much time off as you had for you cycle, for example if your cycle was 60 days , take at LEAST 60 days off, if not more to be even safer
    I agree with the above advice... I typically run 3 fairly longer cycles per year... 2 months intra-cycle, 1 month post cycle therapy, and then one month of just giving my body and organs a rest/re-coop!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast View Post
    I prefer to suggest time off = cycle time + pct time. so if you ran a 6 week cycle and 4 week pct, you'd want to stay off an aditional 10 weeks.

    ManBeast
    Also a very good response, there is no such thing as taking too much time between cycles, I mean different people react differently to different substances/compounds and whenever you do something that puts stress on the body, it is always good to take ample amount of time off!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Subd for future reference and curiosity. Been very interested in the epi. Not very familiar with the 1andro Nd also fear gainin too much weight/size, I prefer to stay under 170 as I am never truly lean above that... Water and bloat also very big concerns for me. I've run several ph cycles as a STUPID teenager and had bad experiences with all of them due to my lack of knowledge and resource like am! Glad there's people Out here willing to
    Help
    Do the research... ask the questions, I promise I will never be an A$$, no matter how simple or basic the question is, there was a point in time that I didn't know the answer and everyone else here on the forum didn't know either, we all had to learn, so by all means... ASK.

    There are many different PH's around and in my opinion most can be taken with extremely good results and little to no neg sides if taken properly with the proper protective measures... ie liver & kidney supports both during and after, a good PCT to block the estrogen and boost the natural testosterone back up, etc. etc.

    In short, the STUPIDEST thing you can do at this point is... NOT ASKING IF YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc

    Do the research... ask the questions, I promise I will never be an A$$, no matter how simple or basic the question is, there was a point in time that I didn't know the answer and everyone else here on the forum didn't know either, we all had to learn, so by all means... ASK.

    There are many different PH's around and in my opinion most can be taken with extremely good results and little to no neg sides if taken properly with the proper protective measures... ie liver & kidney supports both during and after, a good PCT to block the estrogen and boost the natural testosterone back up, etc. etc.

    In short, the STUPIDEST thing you can do at this point is... NOT ASKING IF YOU DON'T KNOW!!!
    Very cool
    And nice of you! It'll probably be a couple mknths before I think about trying Anything. Basically all natural stuff at this point. Loving erase and anabeta.. Bout to
    Try some daa and fadogia..

    I've experimented as stated earlier with 17bol, stanodrol, trenadrol, sus500, oxyguno, n I can't remember what else.. Something methylated from est about 5 years ago.. Never really did post or used intra cycle supports. Was SO dumb. Won't happen again now though

  21. Yah I think time off should be longer depending on what you are running. The finaflex line consists of less harsh or milder PH's but still take around 8 weeks off at least. Also different people have different reactions to different stuff so you have to gauge this for yourself and that's why you might want to take longer that 8 weeks depending on your experience. If you have reasonable easy access to blood tests I highly recommend it, that way you know for sure where you are at. Yah I think Finaflex products are safe and well thought out with there support products but why not use every precaution.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah a 12 week bridge is plenty of time to recomp and cut as long as you are only about 15-20 lbs from your goal weight. You could do more in that time and AL as proven it but that is a severe cut he did and tough to duplicate. Myself I will plan to peak a bit slower. I love the way I did it last year. Bottom line is though Al did that serious but and lost next to no muscle. Plus Epi-v will have you looking hard, dry and lean in the end. Go to the EPI-V question thread where I posted some pics of me at 53 just at the end of my EPI-V run. It's pretty impressive.
    Pretty amazing pics at 53! Congrats on that, takes alot of hard work.

    So my concern now is that I am up to 234 and do not want to gain anymore weight. 550 being compared to Deca(oil based) will retain water. Yes it will lubricate your joints. My brother took the real Deca and gained 25 lbs. He regrets it because lost most of it.

    I am more concerned with leaning out and dropping BF. Correct me if I am wrong, I may just be a *****. But with a tall slender build it takes me gaining alot of weight before you notice and with my playing days behind me I don't care about size but rather having an athletic cut build. And taking 4 bottles of 3 different PH's on 1 cycle kind of scares me.

    Scotty: What do you think about taking maybe just 550 and EPI? Seems to me like Andro/550 would be one in the same in terms of stacking. More concerned with the lean/cutting qualities of EPI then bulking from 550 or Andro.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by mattbaseball View Post
    Pretty amazing pics at 53! Congrats on that, takes alot of hard work.

    So my concern now is that I am up to 234 and do not want to gain anymore weight. 550 being compared to Deca(oil based) will retain water. Yes it will lubricate your joints. My brother took the real Deca and gained 25 lbs. He regrets it because lost most of it.

    I am more concerned with leaning out and dropping BF. Correct me if I am wrong, I may just be a *****. But with a tall slender build it takes me gaining alot of weight before you notice and with my playing days behind me I don't care about size but rather having an athletic cut build. And taking 4 bottles of 3 different PH's on 1 cycle kind of scares me.

    Scotty: What do you think about taking maybe just 550 and EPI? Seems to me like Andro/550 would be one in the same in terms of stacking. More concerned with the lean/cutting qualities of EPI then bulking from 550 or Andro.
    OK, first I want to say that your brother gaining 25Lbs on Deca is pretty amazing, is that all he was taking? because that is a lot of weight gain for just Deca. 2nd, Deca is not as indicative of water bloat and weight gain like high levels of testosterone would be, especially if you are eating clean and drinking a lot of water. Now as far as him losing all that he gained, that is probably a combination of two things... 1) it was a lot of water retention and bloat, which will always go away when you get off... 2) if you don't post-cycle correctly, you will usually lose most of what you gained, strength, size, cuts, all of it (it all has to do with that time it takes for your body to correct its hormonal levels naturally vs. assisting them quicker with a PCT).

    Matt... if you are happy with your size then just go with a good cycle of EPI-V. Doug(dreamweaver) had amazing results with 4 caps/day for 6wks. Here, take a look at this LOG I ran last year... it was one of the best cycles/body re-comp I have ever done! Now take note in the 1st page of the LOG that I cycled for 12 wks and bridged from 1-ANDRO to EPI-V, that is definitely a longer cycle than I personally recommend, but it was my body and I felt like I was taking all the necessary precautions and I was very careful to listen and stay in tune with my body if I felt like anything was not going right, which it actually went silky-fuggin-smooth... anyway see for yourself!

    12 wk pre-contest transformation
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  24. Yeah that is all he took. THis was 5 years ago during his ball years. His plan was Winnie but all the guy had was DECA so he bought it. He regrets it lol, but so be it. He probably did not cycle off of it correctly but I am not sure. He did tear his Shoulder later that year and had surgery so that has alot to do with it.

    Thanks for all the help again. I now need to price it all out and come to a conclusion on what me and my 3 buddies will take. I am leaning towards Epi or bridging it with Andro for a total of 8 weeks. Thanks again to everyone for all the help

  25. Yah EPI-V is the thing to take for when you want to peak, It's pretty mild so I like to bridge it just like Al did and aim to peak on it. It will have you lean, dry and hard and you won't lose an ounce of muscle. You don't have to go all that low on calories either, I was something like 3400 2500 in a lean gains protocol which is pretty high for me. I was in more of a recomp mode as I did not have to lose a lot of weight but if you're 6 weeks out of your peak you should not have to.

  26. Hey ScottyDoc,

    Looking for some info for a cycle.

    I am going to be starting a cycle of 1-Andro and Black Revolution PCT.

    I am curious on the amount I should take for the cycle-for both products.

    I am 31, 6"5 275lb about 20% bf. I have been lifting for a few years and my nutrition is spot on.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by pseudo View Post
    Hey ScottyDoc,

    Looking for some info for a cycle.

    I am going to be starting a cycle of 1-Andro and Black Revolution PCT.

    I am curious on the amount I should take for the cycle-for both products.

    I am 31, 6"5 275lb about 20% bf. I have been lifting for a few years and my nutrition is spot on.

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.
    Welll I think he will say 4 1-andro ed 2 am 2 pm and 1 PCT Black pm then during PCT 2-3 PCT black pm with some Pure Test up to 4-6 ed there is some DAA in the PCT black so 4 Pure Test should do the trick.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Welll I think he will say 4 1-andro ed 2 am 2 pm and 1 PCT Black pm then during PCT 2-3 PCT black pm with some Pure Test up to 4-6 ed there is some DAA in the PCT black so 4 Pure Test should do the trick.
    Agreed Doug, the only thing left out was the length of time I think a cycle should last... Although I myself and many others here have done 8, 10, even 12wk cycles, I think the safest, yet effective cycle length is 6wks. This is completely my opinion now, but both my professional one and one from my personal experiences, I think that under 6wks just is not long enough and anything over 8wks is too long, as in it can really become taxing on the body and at that point you should really know what you are doing and be extremely in tune with your body and also be taking all the precautionary measures, etc. In short, I believe a 6wk cycle is perfect, 8wk Max!
    Dr. Albert Scott Representative for FINAFLEX
    www.finaflex.com
    Redefine Yourself..... REDEFINE EVERYTHING!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by ScottyDoc View Post
    Agreed Doug, the only thing left out was the length of time I think a cycle should last... Although I myself and many others here have done 8, 10, even 12wk cycles, I think the safest, yet effective cycle length is 6wks. This is completely my opinion now, but both my professional one and one from my personal experiences, I think that under 6wks just is not long enough and anything over 8wks is too long, as in it can really become taxing on the body and at that point you should really know what you are doing and be extremely in tune with your body and also be taking all the precautionary measures, etc. In short, I believe a 6wk cycle is perfect, 8wk Max!
    Yah sorry .. 6-8 week cydle would be good 6 probably easier to recover from.

  30. Can erase or erase pro be used in pct for an 8 week cycle of epi v? I would want to run erase for another 8 weeks following the epi... Is this safe/realistic? What else would need to be including intra cycle and post? Would I need or want to run a test booster along with the epi? I have below avg test levels, so I usually run some sort of natty t booster year round.. I'm really interested in trying the epi but not sure how to cover all my bases for during and post cycle.. I'd like to use anabeta post cycle as well if possible..
  

  
 

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