[grazidi]

Originally Posted by Trauma1

Pics look good! As long as you have you diet dialed in you should be good to go. Good luck with this bud and make sure to post up a thread when you start it.

a couple more questions. is havoc supposed to smeel like eggs? and why do they have the cheap cap instead of the child safety kind? i do form opinions on products just by the bottle, it does sau alot about a company, any how let me know, thanx

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by grazidi

a couple more questions. is havoc supposed to smeel like eggs? and why do they have the cheap cap instead of the child safety kind? i do form opinions on products just by the bottle, it does sau alot about a company, any how let me know, thanx

Sulfur is contained within the compound itself. If even one of the tiny caps isn't packed perfectly tight, it can allow for the smell to permiate into the bottle giving the classic "rotten egg" sulfur smell. If this does happen, there is nothing wrong with the product. Some bottles will smell, others won't. The capping manufacturing process has a lot to do with that.

What exactly about the bottles do you find "cheap"? We've gone through a few different bottling companies in recent times, so i don't know which one you're talking about. The bottle in my opinion is very sufficient with a nice cosmetic appearance.

There are plenty of write-ups, personal feedback experience, logs, and studies here on AM about RPN and our full product line. If there is anything else i can help you with in particular, please let me know.

[grazidi]

i am on day #4 taking 30 mgs a day. i feel a little bloated, and full. that is why i was going to take an anti estrogen with it. i want to lose weight, not gain it, right now atleast. is there soething i could stack with it to achieve the goal i want od cutting/hardening?

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by grazidi

i am on day #4 taking 30 mgs a day. i feel a little bloated, and full. that is why i was going to take an anti estrogen with it. i want to lose weight, not gain it, right now atleast. is there soething i could stack with it to achieve the goal i want od cutting/hardening?

You could try stacking it with furazadrol to help harden up. However, that stack would be pretty dry and would tear up the joints. Make sure you're taking some type of joint support if you do.

What is your sodium/carb intake like? I would actually try and change up the diet first and see what happens.

Trust me when i tell you that you don't need an AI while taking havoc. The compound itself has AI properties to it.

[grazidi]

Originally Posted by Trauma1

You could try stacking it with furazadrol to help harden up. However, that stack would be pretty dry and would tear up the joints. Make sure you're taking some type of joint support if you do.

What is your sodium/carb intake like? I would actually try and change up the diet first and see what happens.

Trust me when i tell you that you don't need an AI while taking havoc. The compound itself has AI properties to it.

i have taken winadrol, which furazadrol is the same, and did not notice too much from it in the past. was pretty disapointed. i am thinking about lg's mmv2. i have heard nothing but great things about this product, and was going to try it sooner or later.

[Trauma1]

I'd like to hear any questions or success stories that you all have had with havoc. Post them up!!!

[WilteredFire]

hey grazidi, i agree with Trauma, Havoc is pretty damn dry in itself, Theres always an option of stacking it with an AI like form but theres really no need, if you feel bloaty/wet, Havoc should be great to cut you up and dry you out nicely, Trick is not to knock down your estrogen too much as it will dry out your joints. Personally if i was to run any PH/DS cycle in May next year, i would most definately go for Havoc because of the nice dry lean gains.

Like trauma says, it depends on the kinda diet you have is well. Dont under estimate this stuff, its potent.

[wishmaster25]

Hey guys,

In about 3 weeks i will be starting my first cycle. I have had a lot of help putting this cycle together.

Hower i still have some questions, maybe you guys can help me out here.

Because all the stories i read about people getting Gyno even delayed gyno, so i decided to change my cycle some what.


This will be my cycle i think:

Preloaded: 8 a 10 days:
- Anabolic Innovations Cycle support : 2 scoops

Havoc Cycle:
Week 1: start with 20mg for 3 days, than 30mg
Week 2: 30mg
Week 3: 30mg
Week 4: 30mg

During the cycle i will take:
- Taurine 6 grams
- Multivitamins
- Omega 3-6-9. 2 caps a day
- Anabolic Innovations Cycle support : 2 scoops
- Whey protein 2 a 3 shakes a day.
- 9 amino tabs/caps a day
- Liv. 52 4 caps a day.

Q1: Do i need anything else?

PCT:
Week 1: 30mg Nolva
Week 2: 20mg Nolva
Week 3: 10mg Nolva
Week 4: 10mg Nolva

Q2: I only have 500mg of nolva, do i need more? Because i can get more if needed. So 30/20/20/10 i am not able to run that, or i have to get more nolva, what do you guys think?

Week 4: adding 6oxo 300mg
Week 5: only 6oxo 200mg
Week 6: only 6oxo 100mg

Q3: What about the dosage of the 6oxo, because i have less nolva? add more weeks/dosage???
Q4: Do i need to setup the 6oxo different?
Q5: I have read that also a lot of people add a test booster. Do i need a test booster during the pct?
Q6: if So which one? Which week do i start and how much, how long do i run it? Some say use AX, how should i run it? Start in week 4 and than??? How many Weeks/pils a day? is it really necessary?
Q7: Maybe adding PCS and IC3 as well?? And if so how do i run it?
Q8: Some person adviced me The product called Vitex (chaste berry). Vitex will help with prolactin issues, what do you think? Do i need this?

Supps during my PCT:
- Crea mono
- Multivitamins
- Omega 3-6-9. 2 caps a day
- Anabolic Innovations Cycle support : 2 scoops
- Whey protein 2 a 3 shakes a day.
- 9 amino tabs/caps a day
- Liv. 52 4 caps a day.

Q9: Do i need anything else?

Q10:Any other advice for me?

I know i ask a lot of questions but i just want to be sure and run a well planned cycle unlike some other people.

I am currious about you guys think and if you can answer all my questions

Thanks!!!!

[evolution]

Originally Posted by Trauma1

I'd like to hear any questions or success stories that you all have had with havoc. Post them up!!!

I pulsed the Havoc in februari this year for 6 weeks (last 4 weeks @ 40mg/day), and was very happy with the result.

Gained 5kg, kept 3,5kg after PCT. Had almost no sides (only a bit headache and backpumps), but all solved with good supps.
Taking Dhea and test booster on off-days, prevented shutdown
I only felt great

I'm planning to do a second pulsing cycle in september/october

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by evolution

I pulsed the Havoc in februari this year for 6 weeks (last 4 weeks @ 40mg/day), and was very happy with the result.

Gained 5kg, kept 3,5kg after PCT. Had almost no sides (only a bit headache and backpumps), but all solved with good supps.
Taking Dhea and test booster on off-days, prevented shutdown
I only felt great

I'm planning to do a second pulsing cycle in september/october

Awesome to hear. Thank you for the feedback my friend!

[Trauma1]

FYI - I'm still putting together some pulse cycle guidelines for havoc that will be put in this write-up shortly. I also have a few more Q&A's to add.

[striking]

Originally Posted by Trauma1

I'd like to hear any questions or success stories that you all have had with havoc. Post them up!!!

Did A Havoc Cycle last month
Pos:
Gained 8 lean lbs.
Strength went up
Energy was amazing
1/2in added to arms
1in added to legs
1/2 added to waist
Chest filled out with shoulders

Neg.
Mild Back pumps
Tired until middle of 2nd week

Great product
Ran cycle at
20/30/40/40
Strength started kicking in at 30 size and weight gains at 40!

Thanks RPN!

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by striking

Did A Havoc Cycle last month
Pos:
Gained 8 lean lbs.
Strength went up
Energy was amazing
1/2in added to arms
1in added to legs
1/2 added to waist
Chest filled out with shoulders

Neg.
Mild Back pumps
Tired until middle of 2nd week

Great product
Ran cycle at
20/30/40/40
Strength started kicking in at 30 size and weight gains at 40!

Thanks RPN!

Great to hear that you had some very nice results!

Thank you for the feedback.