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Old 06-02-2008, 07:32 PM   #121
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Thanx a lot bro! I'll try the first cycle solo Havoc, but should I add tribulus to offset libido? What effects would that have on the potency of havoc?
I would add DHEA to hep with libido and joints.

I've also been using Diesel Test Hardcore, and find it impressive.
 



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Old 06-02-2008, 07:37 PM   #122
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I would add DHEA to hep with libido and joints.

I've also been using Diesel Test Hardcore, and find it impressive.
I'm looking forward to trying it myself.
 



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hows it going fellas i am currently running a 2 week cycle of havoc at 20 mg a day and i can already see a shrinkin of my glandular gyno and a tightening of my puffy a** nips. I am going to buy my PCT supplies tommrow i am going to go with 60x0 extreme tribulus and creatine...should i run the 60x0 for just weeks like my cycle and how about the tribulus? need a little input here gents ur help is greatly appreciated. This stuff is crazy on my strenght!!!
 
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how do you recommend dosing the DCP during cycle, I was thinking

3- pre cardio
2- 30 min before lunch and dinner

is it as simple as that?
 



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Old 06-04-2008, 05:09 PM   #125
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hows it going fellas i am currently running a 2 week cycle of havoc at 20 mg a day and i can already see a shrinkin of my glandular gyno and a tightening of my puffy a** nips. I am going to buy my PCT supplies tommrow i am going to go with 60x0 extreme tribulus and creatine...should i run the 60x0 for just weeks like my cycle and how about the tribulus? need a little input here gents ur help is greatly appreciated. This stuff is crazy on my strenght!!!
Start at page one of this thread. Neoborn also has another thread with everything you need to know. All your answers are in both. Good luck.
 
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how do you recommend dosing the DCP during cycle, I was thinking

3- pre cardio
2- 30 min before lunch and dinner

is it as simple as that?
Yeah - I think that looks pretty good. It should definitely give you some very nice endurance boost effects dosing it pre-workout. The PLCAR in DCP will also enhance androgen receptor proliferation increasing potential muscle mass gains.

Feel free to play around with the dosing a bit to see what works best for you, however what you've mapped out looks solid to me.
 



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hows it going fellas i am currently running a 2 week cycle of havoc at 20 mg a day and i can already see a shrinkin of my glandular gyno and a tightening of my puffy a** nips. I am going to buy my PCT supplies tommrow i am going to go with 60x0 extreme tribulus and creatine...should i run the 60x0 for just weeks like my cycle and how about the tribulus? need a little input here gents ur help is greatly appreciated. This stuff is crazy on my strenght!!!
PM me and i'll help you set up a decent PCT for your havoc cycle.
 



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Start at page one of this thread. Neoborn also has another thread with everything you need to know. All your answers are in both. Good luck.
Thank you sir. My write-up is still a work in progress. More to be added until i perfect that bad boy!
 



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Trauma1 I am not sure if my messages are being sent my computer is freaking out have you recieved my personal messages about the PCT? dont want to bother you just checking to see if I am even sending out my questions or not...thanks again
 
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Trauma1 I am not sure if my messages are being sent my computer is freaking out have you recieved my personal messages about the PCT? dont want to bother you just checking to see if I am even sending out my questions or not...thanks again
Sorry man, just been busy lately. I have it and i'll be sending a reply shortly.
 



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curiousity, the pre-workout dose can or shouldbe taken 30 min or an hour before you workout
 



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I'd take it anywhere from 45 mins - 1 hour beforehand for best effect.
 



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thats what i figured... took it an hour prior for my first dose/day of this deal..

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If you're looking to add a great compound to stack with Havoc i would suggest Anabolic Xtreme's: 3-AD. I think the two would have a very good synergy. I logged the beta for 3-AD a few months ago. Do a quick search for the log(T1's 3-AD Tester Log Redux) in the supplement review/log section.

Havoc as a compound will give you amazing gains all in itself. If you haven't used havoc before i'd suggest running a Havoc cycle solo to gain knowledge of the compound and its effects on your body.
Since 3-AD is an "Ester compound" would this add any extra strain on the liver if it were run with a methyl such as Havoc?
 
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