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Old 03-10-2008, 06:40 PM   #61
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It's more of a safety measure if anything but if you were using a SERM, you'd should def consider running CS through PCT as a SERM is still just as stressful on the liver but overall I think you're missing the point of what each of these products do or should I safely say what they are intended to do for us...
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Havoc ate away all my water weight, I love it! I am only on day 10. I was never fat or overweight, only "big", now I am getting leaner, cutter, and putting lean mass with no problem!
 
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nice write-up, very helpful
 



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Very nice! Should be a Sticky! Throw up its own thread and put a link in your sig Trauma...
 
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Very nice write up bro.. It needs to be a FAQ like there is for pct etc... I like the additional advice concerning tylenol and Advil etc..
 
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I'd include the pulse dosing protocol in this since people do like that idea also...
 
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I'd include the pulse dosing protocol in this since people do like that idea also...
I'll definitely be adding that in there. I've just had a lot going on as of late and my overall time is limited. I will be doing much more adding and editing though. The finished product should be very nice. I'm glad you guys like it thusfar.
 



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Old 03-21-2008, 10:27 PM   #68
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good to know...I have 8 friends lined up that now are on Havoc or will be and I'd love to direct them to a one-page-explains-all (well in a perfect world "all" haha) but this will hit the key points!!!
 
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Can anyone tell me the half life of Havoc?
 
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Can anyone tell me the half life of Havoc?
Last thing I heard it was 6 hours...and superdrol was 8...if I mixed it up someone plz correct...
 



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Last thing I heard it was 6 hours...and superdrol was 8...if I mixed it up someone plz correct...
6hours was the consensus among the various websites. But i was thrown for a loop when i read: (From PAs test thread on BB.com)

"Mild methylated compounds often have a half-life of four hours, but this isn't indicative of anything. It depends on the therapeutic index of Havoc. Havoc has an extra sulfur group that puts it in a weird fourth dimension.

Educated guess: 2 hours an effective concentration, after 8 hours loss of effective concentration."


...anyone have further info, thx.
 
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6hours was the consensus among the various websites. But i was thrown for a loop when i read: (From PAs test thread on BB.com)

"Mild methylated compounds often have a half-life of four hours, but this isn't indicative of anything. It depends on the therapeutic index of Havoc. Havoc has an extra sulfur group that puts it in a weird fourth dimension.

Educated guess: 2 hours an effective concentration, after 8 hours loss of effective concentration."


...anyone have further info, thx.
Isn't that generally how it works anyways? haha. It has been in range of 6-10 hours usually for a general idea for Havoc, Superdrol and the like...as no one really knows or has a definate answer (but have seen it specific to Havoc 6 Superdrol 8 somewhere in AM) and for I have seen this question asked numerous times in here and elsewhere being generalized for the most part...
 



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Old 04-07-2008, 03:07 PM   #73
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THanks for the write up Trauma.

Probably a stupid question, but what is DHEA?
 
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THanks for the write up Trauma.

Probably a stupid question, but what is DHEA?
DHEA(Dehydroepiandrosterone): It's basically a precursor to an androgen/estrogen. Our adrenal glands also produce it endogenously. Check out some of our board sponsors that sell products that contain it.
 



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hey guys, I am not up to date with the NON-methyl(wet)compounds out there, which ones would you recommend?

This would be for my second cycle this summer, ran havoc alone and getting ready to finish up, gave me the results I wanted! NO sides, maybe a pimple or two, but I attribute that to stress and sweating at work.
 
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Trauma,

What's the word on availability?

Looking forward to your pulse write-up.
 
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