- 02-12-2008, 11:23 PM
- 02-12-2008, 11:49 PM
02-13-2008, 09:08 AM
I ordered one bottle from NP a few days ago before it went out of stock again.
My order arrived yesterday, I can't wait to try it! But I'm not ready and won't be for a few months.
02-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Hello and this is my first post on here.
I got very interested in joining this forum because of what i've heard about havoc. Seems like a very good product. I am very new to PH and the like.
I am seconds away from getting 2 bottles of havok, but first I need to know (what to use for PCT) ...yes i did read, and I am more confused. thats number #1 and # 2 ( How should I cycle it?)
I'm also taking PhytoTestosterone, this is my 2nd week. Great product also. #3 (Will PT have negative effects with Havok?)
These are my concerns...can I get some straight answers pls.
02-21-2008, 08:12 PM
02-21-2008, 08:35 PM
02-26-2008, 06:23 PM
need help with what to use for havoc cycle
Trauma1 could you give me some help on setting up the perfect cycle with havoc. what would you recommend i use for pre, during and post cycle to make sure im completely covered. Thanks
03-02-2008, 12:11 AM
03-02-2008, 12:19 AM
Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
03-02-2008, 12:04 PM
Thanks for replying, i will check out other threads and see what i can come up with. I didnt know if you had more experience in this and had something you preferred more than the other or not. Again thanks
03-02-2008, 12:42 PM
Ok, after reading about other cycle support i have come to the conclusion i will use Cycle support while on havoc thruout the whole cycle. And post cycle will consist of Post Cycle support and Diesel test hardcore, along with creatine. Does this sound good while running havoc at 10/30/30/30. I would appreciate all the input you guys can give me on this. Thanks
03-02-2008, 01:31 PM
03-02-2008, 02:03 PM
I agree don't waste a week at 10 as you will not see anything significant. I felt the most gains came from 40mg but so did the sides so see first how 30 will do for you then go with how your body responds...if I were you I'd go for a SERM in PCT since that is the holy grail of PCT now-a-days. Some would even say it's a necessity. Cycle Support is a must but start it 2 weeks or so prior to starting your cycle, through your cycle, continue through PCT, and few weeks or so beyond after your PCT is finished...
03-02-2008, 03:09 PM
03-02-2008, 07:29 PM
Thanks for the help guys. Trauma i am planning on running this straight cycle. Id like to run a SERM but the stuff is impossible to get ahold of. Any helpfull info on something near as good being i cant get this.
03-05-2008, 07:55 PM
This is what i have come to a conclusion on after researching the web for about 6hrs. So many different people saying so many different ways. How does this sound to you guys.
Cycle Support- during cycle
Liver Longer- during and after cycle
cissus- 3 wks before, during and after cycle
Post cylce Support- after cycle for 6 wks
Diesel test- after cycle for 4 wks
6 oxo- after cycle 4 wks--------Different opinions on this
Size-On creatine- after cycle
Any other recommendations please let me know. I cant seem to get ahold of a SERM Online so unless someone can hook me up that is un realistic for me. But i wish i had one.
And of course taking daily Multi's and Protein.
03-05-2008, 08:12 PM
03-05-2008, 08:14 PM
again...cycle support through PCT also...if you end up finding and using a SERM for PCT...then cycle support use should go into PCT and few weeks or so beyond...
03-05-2008, 08:33 PM
03-05-2008, 08:35 PM
03-05-2008, 08:38 PM
Is there a board sponsor who carrys "research chems"..
The list goes on and on...
Most boards have a sponsor of the sorts.. I can post various companys that you can purchase these from which is openly discussed on most boards, but I dont know if that goes against the rules here.. soo...
03-05-2008, 08:42 PM
03-05-2008, 09:02 PM
03-06-2008, 07:09 AM
03-06-2008, 08:09 AM
Though personally I wouldn't see anything wrong with doing it PM...
Similar Forum Threads
- By Manchu111 in forum Supplement LogsReplies: 21Last Post: 02-28-2009, 10:56 PM
- By chan_ho_nam in forum SupplementsReplies: 83Last Post: 05-10-2005, 02:06 AM
- By K (Phoenix) in forum AnabolicsReplies: 102Last Post: 01-02-2003, 07:37 PM