[jmh80]

I think the active in UHer is 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta-1,4,6-etioallocholtriene

[jmh80]

Here are all the ingrediants:
ALRI Proprietary blend includes: Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, Agaricus bisporus extract., 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract.
135mg

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by jmh80

Here are all the ingrediants:
ALRI Proprietary blend includes: Avena Sativa Extract 20:1, Agaricus bisporus extract., 6-acetoxy-3-hydroxy-17-keto-etioallocholane, 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxyl-3-keto-delta 1,4,6-etioallocholtriene, Condensed Agaricus bisporus extract.
135mg

So basically a 17-aa ATD derivative with some added, exotic herbals. I haven't heard any feedback on it's benefits as an anti-e, but I hear it's mostly used as an anti-cort. One person I've talked to that has run blood on it claimed his liver enzymes were not elevated by it's use at suggested doses, but I can't find any pre-existing info on this compound anywhere and can't find the quantity of the main active from the label info, so I can't honestly say one way or another on this product.

[Gordyr]

Originally Posted by DR.D

If you only did SD for 3 wks and never exceeded 20mg, plus you have 3wks of 20-40mg Nolva under your belt for PCT, you should be fine to just taper now with RXT. 25mg for another wk or two if you just wanna play it safe, but it is unlikely to regenerate your libido at this point.

Some people complain about loss of libido while on SD cycles and/or while using RXT for PCTs. I haven't have a prob with either yet, but Nolva is notorious for this. I try to avoid it at all costs (for other reasons too) and stick with Clomid.

The PCT I recommended earlier was really just a generic guideline for a longer, more serious shutdown that you likely experienced with your cycle. You could have probably gotten away with a few weeks of Clomid @ 100mg or a month of "natural" therapy (fenugreek/DHEA). Remember though, I have experimented so much over the years, but at my own risk. Overkill is always better than underkill when in doubt about PCT.

Honestly, if I were you at this point, I'd add 100-200mg DHEA/d for another wk or two and see if that helps. ActivaTe is also very effective for libido restoration if you don't have any hCG. ACT does it's magic without elevating estrogen too (like hCG will) so it's a better choice for you IMO now that you are not on a SERM or AI. High daily doses of a Maca/HGW stack or even solo high potency Ginseng extract can be effective too from my experience.

Thanks for the thorough advice Dr. D. It's very much appreciated.

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by Gordyr

Thanks for the thorough advice Dr. D. It's very much appreciated.

Not a prob my man. I just hope it helps. I know how libido issues suck! I've gotten pretty good at avoiding them, but it still usually happens to some extent toward the end of a long cycle no matter what.

[ABiLiTY]

thanx Dr D.

hmm... i was using cissus in the first 4 weeks when this lump developed.

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by ABiLiTY

thanx Dr D.

hmm... i was using cissus in the first 4 weeks when this lump developed.

Anytime friend.

I've been too scared to try it! I believe the feedback I got and haven't even bothered to study the chemicals in it yet. If they are estrogenic, it may explain why they are so effective for connective tissue repair.

[Lithuanian Bear]

Are the Products (Clomid) you get at research -ology legit? When I enlarge the picture's it states not for human consumption it also states research only?

[Lithuanian Bear]

Originally Posted by ABiLiTY

thanx Dr D.

hmm... i was using cissus in the first 4 weeks when this lump developed.

Wait a minute you noticed a lump? don't scare me like that I have been using cissus for 5 weeks ? Please elaborate! also Dr.D it is supposed to be anabolic for some (not me) so how can it be estrogenic and anabolic I am confused almost as much as the above post of mine.
One thing is for sure nothing ever healed my tendons and joints as good as cissus!!

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by Lithuanian Bear

Are the Products (Clomid) you get at research -ology legit? When I enlarge the picture's it states not for human consumption it also states research only?

I've lab tested many of them, like CNW and IBE brands, and they are pure quality. Nevertheless, they are not "suitable for human use" without a doctors Rx. They are sold only for research use.

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by Lithuanian Bear

Wait a minute you noticed a lump? don't scare me like that I have been using cissus for 5 weeks ? Please elaborate! also Dr.D it is supposed to be anabolic for some (not me) so how can it be estrogenic and anabolic I am confused almost as much as the above post of mine.
One thing is for sure nothing ever healed my tendons and joints as good as cissus!!

Estrogens are very anabolic in connective tissue (bones, cart, tendons, skin, etc..) I wish someone would send me some info or a link or better yet a break down of the active constituents in an average cissus preparation, because I don't know what the hormonal principals are in it and don't really have time to research it right now. I've just heard it's "tits in a bottle" by some of the guys I talk to that have tried it. Most people say like you though, that it is good for joints. Just be careful and keep the doses as low as possible if gyno is a prob.

[YonkersCBR954]

Dr. D ive heard of people using RXT for 6wkSD cycles but the last 1-2 weeks starting the RXT at high of 100mg-75mg before PCT ...and then while on PCT at 75-50 and tappering down from there along with fenugreek and 6oxo but increasing the dosage of the Fenu and 6oxo till the end of PCT....what do you think of using a PCT similar to this for a 6 wk cycle? and also adding in activaTe too ...

[DR.D]

Originally Posted by YonkersCBR954

Dr. D ive heard of people using RXT for 6wkSD cycles but the last 1-2 weeks starting the RXT at high of 100mg-75mg before PCT ...and then while on PCT at 75-50 and tappering down from there along with fenugreek and 6oxo but increasing the dosage of the Fenu and 6oxo till the end of PCT....what do you think of using a PCT similar to this for a 6 wk cycle? and also adding in activaTe too ...

Yeah, I like that idea. I've had good results at avoiding suppression while using RXT on cycle, so I can see starting it a few wks early at higher doses. Also, ramping up the fen is a must for sure. I just don't know about adding 6-oxo though. I'd think it would mostly be wasted because the higher binding affinity of RXT would compete and win for the aromatase enzyme. What may work better is to just replace the RXT with 6-oxo at some point later in the PCT.

[YonkersCBR954]

Originally Posted by DR.D

Yeah, I like that idea. I've had good results at avoiding suppression while using RXT on cycle, so I can see starting it a few wks early at higher doses. Also, ramping up the fen is a must for sure. I just don't know about adding 6-oxo though. I'd think it would mostly be wasted because the higher binding affinity of RXT would compete and win for the aromatase enzyme. What may work better is to just replace the RXT with 6-oxo at some point later in the PCT.

i see ...so what about the last 2 weeks using the 6oxo or could i just get away with just not using it at all? ...how would i go about adding in activaTe in with a pct like this ...