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  1. I used to be one of the strongest advocates for aspirating. I don't now. Nurses are taught not to aspirate now, from what I've been told. The reason I don't is because it's not reliable. If you hit a vein, as soon as you start to inject, it will burn and hurt, so before you get any real amount in the vein, you will know. If you use small needles, like a .25ga, you may not even draw the blood into the syringe. I'm not recommending that anyone stop aspirating, just saying it's no big deal.


  2. Aspirating was taught to nurses do they knew they were deep enough into the muscle....along with the vein thing.

    A big reason for PIP is not getting DEEP enough into the muscle. I pin my TRT in quads and only once have I had the leakage happen. I'm sure it's because I didn't bury the syringe though.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by philrokz View Post
    Just another question too I'm planning on running winny at the last 4 weeks of my cycle before pct I was planning on 20mg daily. Mainly looking to dry out the water and harden up is 20mg ok for a first time newbie cycle??

    20 should be ok as long as the source is good. Mast would be a great addition as well. What else are you running though.?

  4. Nothing just running test E at 500mg a week and winny at the end of the cycle to help dry up and lose the water before pct.

  5. Ok. Run with that then and how it treats you.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    I used to be one of the strongest advocates for aspirating. I don't now. Nurses are taught not to aspirate now, from what I've been told. The reason I don't is because it's not reliable. If you hit a vein, as soon as you start to inject, it will burn and hurt, so before you get any real amount in the vein, you will know. If you use small needles, like a .25ga, you may not even draw the blood into the syringe. I'm not recommending that anyone stop aspirating, just saying it's no big deal.
    I agree with this I never aspirated because hands where to shaky anyways. So if I aspirated the needle would move anyways.

  7. I've aspirated more for piece of mind, even if it may not help saves me worrying that I've plunged oil into my veins and am going to have a heart attack since thats what the Internet tells you will happen lol
    The way I figure is it can't hurt to do so may aswell while I can.

    Thanks for the advice too guys always a pleasure learning more

  8. Quote Originally Posted by philrokz View Post
    I've aspirated more for piece of mind, even if it may not help saves me worrying that I've plunged oil into my veins and am going to have a heart attack since thats what the Internet tells you will happen lol The way I figure is it can't hurt to do so may aswell while I can. Thanks for the advice too guys always a pleasure learning more
    Yeah I hear ya on that one.
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