[dethklok]

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[gdbear65]

Originally Posted by dlew308

How much carvacrol does your pill contain?
The brand I bought is a 250mg with 20% carvacrol. I started taking 2 a day but haven't noticed anything.

20% carvacrol is not enough - get a brand that's at least 75% carvacrol and ensure that it is "wild oil of oregano" and not just "oil of oregano"

[dlew308]

Originally Posted by gdbear65

20% carvacrol is not enough - get a brand that's at least 75% carvacrol and ensure that it is "wild oil of oregano" and not just "oil of oregano"

Can you suggest some brands? This says moroccan oregano, origanum vulgare extracted 4:1

An email reply from the company:

Thank you for your question. Our oregano 4:1 concentrate is not an isolated
standardized product to carvacrol. I do understand there are many Oregano
oils out there that are standardized to carvacrol, yet most are isolated and
fractionized using either hexane extract or Co2 gas which can degrade the
quality of the herb. We feel that offering the true full spectrum of
authentic Moroccan oregano gives the best results as it is full of all
essential oil compounds including carvacrol. I would have to say that I
assume at least 20% carvacrol, although we do not standardized for it, it
could even be much higher.

Scott

Scott Bias
Formulator & Founder

[bioman]

Originally Posted by dethklok

Hmmm, I'm not sure why you havent noticed anything.

Oil Of Oregano is something that I will be holding onto and I would like to try it again and run it over the course of a month or so (this winter during cold season??) However, I need to stop using it now and I will be trying Fish Oil solo instead as there is more evidence for helping Crohn's. Since my Prednisone "cycle" has hit me full force, the Fish Oil will not send me to the bathroom as quickly as it did (fingers crossed).

You might also try large 100 gram doses of Glutamine for healing the erosions/lesions. Helps my wife's UC along with mega dosed fish oil.

[gdbear65]

Originally Posted by dlew308

Can you suggest some brands?

Hedd Wynn is one that I've used, but if you google "wild oil of oregano", you'll get tons of hits.

[dlew308]

Originally Posted by gdbear65

Hedd Wynn is one that I've used, but if you google "wild oil of oregano", you'll get tons of hits.

From that site:
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If headaches, fatigue or flu like symptoms occur after taking Oregano oil, this is a signal that the oil is doing its job and killing pathogens. By drinking lots of water you flush these poisons out of your body.
--

I've been have headaches since taking the pills, wonder if it's related?

I'll have to try that product you linked, thanks

[icey]

Hmmm does it help with allergies too ?

[gdbear65]

Originally Posted by icey

Hmmm does it help with allergies too ?

Yes it is effective for allergies too.

[dethklok]

Originally Posted by dlew308

From that site:
--
If headaches, fatigue or flu like symptoms occur after taking Oregano oil, this is a signal that the oil is doing its job and killing pathogens. By drinking lots of water you flush these poisons out of your body.
--

I've been have headaches since taking the pills, wonder if it's related?

I'll have to try that product you linked, thanks

bump for an update

[juggernaut333]

Originally Posted by dethklok

Colloidal silver is toxic.

bull****
nuttin personal friend.only improperly made or not true CS is toxic.true real deal CS is a miracle supp.

check this out

im about to help a friend with this,as i have on good word it CURES herpes.

the following is by Grunt76.he may have already posted it here somewhere i dunno,but i felt it proper to punch it in here to dispell the misinfo...

Becoming infection-proof. Impossible?

We, as athletes, must be careful with diseases and infections. For steroid users, this need is increased by the vulnerability caused by both the hormone fluctuations and the repetitive injections we take our bodies through.

Injecting anything, even the best-sterilized gear, can cause microorganisms to enter the body and cause disease. And how unsurprising is it to catch the flu when cutting down, preparing for a show or just entering PCT? You hear it all the time. The reasons why are well understood, and the only commonly accepted ways to prevent these are proper nutrition and supplementation as well as plentiful rest and of course, avoiding overtraining. While this represents a best case scenario, it is obviously not always doable and even when all precautions are followed perfectly, getting sidetracked by health problems is very common.

This of course is without mentioning abcesses, which although rare, are the nightmare of all steroid users. Sterile (chemical) abcesses, while no fun in themselves, are not extremely damaging. They can often be removed by pulling the contents out with an empty syringe and a large 18ga needle. Nonsterile abcesses though are downright nightmarish. Fever comes quickly and medical care needs to be sought promptly, lest the infection spreads and life-threatening conditions arise. Those abcesses usually occur deep inside the muscle and require surgery that opens up the muscle belly and is closed by numerous stitches. Obviously, a whole season of training can easily be lost to such an abcess and muscle size, wrecked.

What's a man to do?

Well, what if I told you there's an old folk remedy that fell out of usage with the invention of antibiotics in the early 20th century. What if I told you that remedy kills any and all disease-causing organisms without causing any resistant strains to mutate contrary to normal antibiotics. What if I told you that this remedy has been used by countless people on a daily basis for thousands of years with no side-effects, only enhanced health and resistance to all pathogen-caused diseases?

These countless people were referred to as "The nobles" in the old countries. The richer people were given titles and were seen as "noble" by the rest of the peoples. And this supersitious view of their apparently superhuman resistance to plagues, infected wounds, rots and mold diseases was very warranted. These people had very little tooth decay. Their bodies rotted at a greatly slowed pace after their passing. They could get hit my arrows and swords going through and through their bodies multiple times in a single battle and somehow pull through while the more normal citizens were assured of dying from the least of such wounds. How did they do it? This is no mere legend, this is the basis of the political structure of the whole world for the last many centuries. Priests and "nobles" were seen as closer to god for these reasons while the plebe cowered in fear of such favor from the powers above.

How did they do it?

It is a well-documented fact that the richer classes all used silver utensils for food preparation and eating. This released silver nanoparticles in the food and in the body. It is a scientifically well-documented fact that silver nanoparticles inhibit the energy-production enzyme of all anaerobic microorganisms. Only anaerobic microorganisms cause disease. By being exposed to silver, the disease causing organisms undergo a simple starvation. No mutation ensues, just as it is not possible to mutate out of the need for food.

There's a catch: while all silver will do this, some forms of silver are more suited to internal use than others. For example, silver salts will killl the disease but will also cause argyria. Argyria is a silver deposit in the skin that turns it grey. While this is not an unhealthy condition, it is not necessarily what you want to look like. Getting rid of the silver deposited in the skin requires a cosmetic treatment. So while it is harmless, you want to avoid argyria. And because it is so scarce, as about only 5 cases have been documented in the 20th century, some physicians mistake the condition for cyanotic heart disease. It is not absolutely certain wether or not silver proteins cause argyria or not. To muddle things, silver proteins and silver salts are sometimes called "colloidal silver" whereas they are not the same thing. As with gear, you need to know you can trust your source or you may run into unforeseen problems.

What is known is that the colloidal form of silver, electrically-charged nanoparticles of silver in suspension in distilled water, do not cause argyria and kill off any disease-causing microorganisms quickly. It is also known that colloidal silver is the form in which it has been absorbed for countless centuries by the richer classes through the usage of silver implements in food preparation. This form of silver does build up in the body and when the concentrations reach a certain treshold, the blood turns a deep bluish purple instead of being red. Thence the "blue blood" moniker used to designate nobles of old.

How to use it?

Most colloidal silver comes in 20ppm (parts per million) suspension in distilled water. This suspension should be yellowish and have a slightly unpleasant metallic taste. The whole discussion of dosages here will be based on the 20ppm standard strength. Of course, half the quantity should be used if the solution is 40ppm or twice the amount if the solution is 10ppm.

CURE
You're sick and want to get rid of it in a jiffy? Gulp down 8oz of the stuff every day until the flu/cold/infection is gone.

MAINTENANCE
You want to disease-proof yourself? Gulp down 4oz ED for 2 weeks, followed by 1oz ED for another 2 weeks. Maintain at 1 tbsp ED. If you know you are overtraining or starting the phase of a cycle where you tend to get sick easiest, bump up the dose for a while, just to be on the safe side.

Now of course if you do the above "maintenance" protocol for one month, I cannot guarantee that you are fully disease-proofed on the 32nd day. It all depends on the status of your immune system and what you are exposed to. Over time though, you'll find that the sick episodes are quickly vanishing. Colloidal silver is somewhat expensive. But then again, when you think of all the hard work you put into building yourself up and how much of that is lost over a bout of the flu, it isn't. The abcess insurance is a major plus, too. If you think of the cost of going to the doctor, getting a script for antibiotics and all that, you'll see that the colloidal silver pays for itself very nicely.

==========

Scientific proof that silver successfully fights HIV infection:

Interaction of silver nanoparticles with HIV-1 | Journal of Nanobiotechnology - Mirror @ Uni Potsdam

There are tons more like this.

And yes when you will run a search you will find people who speak very negatively of this stuff, but bear in mind that the number of cases of problems with silver PRODUCTS amounts to less than a dozen in all of the 20th century. When you dig deeper, COLLOIDAL silver is never the culprit. So yes there are horror stories made up to make this stuff look bad but if you go a bit deeper in your research you will see that these horror stories are easily debunked. You will find negatives about EVERYTHING on the 'Net so please don't just go and post a bunch of links of scarecrow sites saying this stuff looks scary. Big pharma is pretty scared of this stuff, that's for sure.

[juggernaut333]

and back on point..oregano oil is indeed some super potent stuff.highly effective.id be very careful using the straight oil as it can burn the hell out of whatever it touches.
entericly coated softgels may be the best bet if u dont want to mess with the oil...which would be understandable!

great post,i love to see 'alt medicine' type of stuff to help with things(and effectively at that)that would otherwise have antibiotics thrown at it

[dethklok]

Originally Posted by juggernaut333

bull****
nuttin personal friend.only improperly made or not true CS is toxic.true real deal CS is a miracle supp.

check this out

im about to help a friend with this,as i have on good word it CURES herpes.

the following is by Grunt76.he may have already posted it here somewhere i dunno,but i felt it proper to punch it in here to dispell the misinfo...

Becoming infection-proof. Impossible?

We, as athletes, must be careful with diseases and infections. For steroid users, this need is increased by the vulnerability caused by both the hormone fluctuations and the repetitive injections we take our bodies through.

Injecting anything, even the best-sterilized gear, can cause microorganisms to enter the body and cause disease. And how unsurprising is it to catch the flu when cutting down, preparing for a show or just entering post cycle therapy? You hear it all the time. The reasons why are well understood, and the only commonly accepted ways to prevent these are proper nutrition and supplementation as well as plentiful rest and of course, avoiding overtraining. While this represents a best case scenario, it is obviously not always doable and even when all precautions are followed perfectly, getting sidetracked by health problems is very common.

This of course is without mentioning abcesses, which although rare, are the nightmare of all steroid users. Sterile (chemical) abcesses, while no fun in themselves, are not extremely damaging. They can often be removed by pulling the contents out with an empty syringe and a large 18ga needle. Nonsterile abcesses though are downright nightmarish. Fever comes quickly and medical care needs to be sought promptly, lest the infection spreads and life-threatening conditions arise. Those abcesses usually occur deep inside the muscle and require surgery that opens up the muscle belly and is closed by numerous stitches. Obviously, a whole season of training can easily be lost to such an abcess and muscle size, wrecked.

What's a man to do?

Well, what if I told you there's an old folk remedy that fell out of usage with the invention of antibiotics in the early 20th century. What if I told you that remedy kills any and all disease-causing organisms without causing any resistant strains to mutate contrary to normal antibiotics. What if I told you that this remedy has been used by countless people on a daily basis for thousands of years with no side-effects, only enhanced health and resistance to all pathogen-caused diseases?

These countless people were referred to as "The nobles" in the old countries. The richer people were given titles and were seen as "noble" by the rest of the peoples. And this supersitious view of their apparently superhuman resistance to plagues, infected wounds, rots and mold diseases was very warranted. These people had very little tooth decay. Their bodies rotted at a greatly slowed pace after their passing. They could get hit my arrows and swords going through and through their bodies multiple times in a single battle and somehow pull through while the more normal citizens were assured of dying from the least of such wounds. How did they do it? This is no mere legend, this is the basis of the political structure of the whole world for the last many centuries. Priests and "nobles" were seen as closer to god for these reasons while the plebe cowered in fear of such favor from the powers above.

How did they do it?

It is a well-documented fact that the richer classes all used silver utensils for food preparation and eating. This released silver nanoparticles in the food and in the body. It is a scientifically well-documented fact that silver nanoparticles inhibit the energy-production enzyme of all anaerobic microorganisms. Only anaerobic microorganisms cause disease. By being exposed to silver, the disease causing organisms undergo a simple starvation. No mutation ensues, just as it is not possible to mutate out of the need for food.

There's a catch: while all silver will do this, some forms of silver are more suited to internal use than others. For example, silver salts will killl the disease but will also cause argyria. Argyria is a silver deposit in the skin that turns it grey. While this is not an unhealthy condition, it is not necessarily what you want to look like. Getting rid of the silver deposited in the skin requires a cosmetic treatment. So while it is harmless, you want to avoid argyria. And because it is so scarce, as about only 5 cases have been documented in the 20th century, some physicians mistake the condition for cyanotic heart disease. It is not absolutely certain wether or not silver proteins cause argyria or not. To muddle things, silver proteins and silver salts are sometimes called "colloidal silver" whereas they are not the same thing. As with gear, you need to know you can trust your source or you may run into unforeseen problems.

What is known is that the colloidal form of silver, electrically-charged nanoparticles of silver in suspension in distilled water, do not cause argyria and kill off any disease-causing microorganisms quickly. It is also known that colloidal silver is the form in which it has been absorbed for countless centuries by the richer classes through the usage of silver implements in food preparation. This form of silver does build up in the body and when the concentrations reach a certain treshold, the blood turns a deep bluish purple instead of being red. Thence the "blue blood" moniker used to designate nobles of old.

How to use it?

Most colloidal silver comes in 20ppm (parts per million) suspension in distilled water. This suspension should be yellowish and have a slightly unpleasant metallic taste. The whole discussion of dosages here will be based on the 20ppm standard strength. Of course, half the quantity should be used if the solution is 40ppm or twice the amount if the solution is 10ppm.

CURE
You're sick and want to get rid of it in a jiffy? Gulp down 8oz of the stuff every day until the flu/cold/infection is gone.

MAINTENANCE
You want to disease-proof yourself? Gulp down 4oz ED for 2 weeks, followed by 1oz ED for another 2 weeks. Maintain at 1 tbsp ED. If you know you are overtraining or starting the phase of a cycle where you tend to get sick easiest, bump up the dose for a while, just to be on the safe side.

Now of course if you do the above "maintenance" protocol for one month, I cannot guarantee that you are fully disease-proofed on the 32nd day. It all depends on the status of your immune system and what you are exposed to. Over time though, you'll find that the sick episodes are quickly vanishing. Colloidal silver is somewhat expensive. But then again, when you think of all the hard work you put into building yourself up and how much of that is lost over a bout of the flu, it isn't. The abcess insurance is a major plus, too. If you think of the cost of going to the doctor, getting a script for antibiotics and all that, you'll see that the colloidal silver pays for itself very nicely.

==========

Scientific proof that silver successfully fights HIV infection:

Interaction of silver nanoparticles with HIV-1 | Journal of Nanobiotechnology - Mirror @ Uni Potsdam

There are tons more like this.

And yes when you will run a search you will find people who speak very negatively of this stuff, but bear in mind that the number of cases of problems with silver PRODUCTS amounts to less than a dozen in all of the 20th century. When you dig deeper, COLLOIDAL silver is never the culprit. So yes there are horror stories made up to make this stuff look bad but if you go a bit deeper in your research you will see that these horror stories are easily debunked. You will find negatives about EVERYTHING on the 'Net so please don't just go and post a bunch of links of scarecrow sites saying this stuff looks scary. Big pharma is pretty scared of this stuff, that's for sure.

I made my post based on the following:
Colloidal silver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and news reports of people who turn into smurfs.

[bioman]

I've used CS many times and i see the biggest problem being consistency of quality and also..stability of the solution. Once you are assured you get good quality stuff, which is hard I admit, it does work pretty dang well for bacterial and fungal infections. Virals I am not so sure of...I have used CS long term and still get the occassional cold sore but the frequency and severity are significantly reduced for some reason.

On the whole though, I reach for CS waaay before I even think of using anti-B's. AB's have messed me up in numerous little ways.

[jeglinas]

Would vitamin shoppe brand be a quality substitute?

[gdbear65]

Originally Posted by jeglinas

Would vitamin shoppe brand be a quality substitute?