Bulk Creatine Nitrate

Page 6 of 19 First ... 45678 ... Last

  1. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    What if I'm not after pumps?
    If pumps is something you want to stay away from, then I think Creatine Nitrate probably isn't for you.
    Core Nutritionals Representative


  2. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    If pumps is something you want to stay away from, then I think Creatine Nitrate probably isn't for you.
    I guess that begs the question of is it merely cosmetic or is there some additional ergogenic benefit over CM?
    M.Ed. Ex Phys

    •   
       


  3. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I guess that begs the question of is it merely cosmetic or is there some additional ergogenic benefit over CM?
    The "pump" is completely besides the point when talking about performance improvements. The following would indicate a potential for ergogenic benefits:

    J Appl Physiol. 2010 Jul;109(1):135-48. Epub 2010 May 13.

    Dietary nitrate supplementation enhances muscle contractile efficiency during knee-extensor exercise in humans.
    Bailey SJ, Fulford J, Vanhatalo A, Winyard PG, Blackwell JR, DiMenna FJ, Wilkerson DP, Benjamin N, Jones AM.

    School of Sport and Health Sciences, University of Exeter, Heavitree Rd., Exeter EX1 2LU, UK.

    Erratum in:

    J Appl Physiol. 2010 Sep;109(3):943.

    Abstract
    The purpose of this study was to elucidate the mechanistic bases for the reported reduction in the O(2) cost of exercise following short-term dietary nitrate (NO(3)(-)) supplementation. In a randomized, double-blind, crossover study, seven men (aged 19-38 yr) consumed 500 ml/day of either nitrate-rich beet root juice (BR, 5.1 mmol of NO(3)(-)/day) or placebo (PL, with negligible nitrate content) for 6 consecutive days, and completed a series of low-intensity and high-intensity "step" exercise tests on the last 3 days for the determination of the muscle metabolic (using (31)P-MRS) and pulmonary oxygen uptake (Vo(2)) responses to exercise. On days 4-6, BR resulted in a significant increase in plasma [nitrite] (mean +/- SE, PL 231 +/- 76 vs. BR 547 +/- 55 nM; P < 0.05). During low-intensity exercise, BR attenuated the reduction in muscle phosphocreatine concentration ([PCr]; PL 8.1 +/- 1.2 vs. BR 5.2 +/- 0.8 mM; P < 0.05) and the increase in Vo(2) (PL 484 +/- 41 vs. BR 362 +/- 30 ml/min; P < 0.05). During high-intensity exercise, BR reduced the amplitudes of the [PCr] (PL 3.9 +/- 1.1 vs. BR 1.6 +/- 0.7 mM; P < 0.05) and Vo(2) (PL 209 +/- 30 vs. BR 100 +/- 26 ml/min; P < 0.05) slow components and improved time to exhaustion (PL 586 +/- 80 vs. BR 734 +/- 109 s; P < 0.01). The total ATP turnover rate was estimated to be less for both low-intensity (PL 296 +/- 58 vs. BR 192 +/- 38 microM/s; P < 0.05) and high-intensity (PL 607 +/- 65 vs. BR 436 +/- 43 microM/s; P < 0.05) exercise. Thus the reduced O(2) cost of exercise following dietary NO(3)(-) supplementation appears to be due to a reduced ATP cost of muscle force production. The reduced muscle metabolic perturbation with NO(3)(-) supplementation allowed high-intensity exercise to be tolerated for a greater period of time.

    PMID: 20466802 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    J Appl Physiol. 2009 Oct;107(4):1144-55. Epub 2009 Aug 6.

    Dietary nitrate supplementation reduces the O2 cost of low-intensity exercise and enhances tolerance to high-intensity exercise in humans.
    Bailey SJ, Winyard P, Vanhatalo A, Blackwell JR, Dimenna FJ, Wilkerson DP, Tarr J, Benjamin N, Jones AM.

    Exeter Univ., Sport and Health Sciences, St. Luke's Campus, Heavitree Rd., Exeter, EX1 2LU UK.

    Comment in:

    J Appl Physiol. 2009 Nov;107(5):1677; author reply 1678.

    Abstract
    Pharmacological sodium nitrate supplementation has been reported to reduce the O2 cost of submaximal exercise in humans. In this study, we hypothesized that dietary supplementation with inorganic nitrate in the form of beetroot juice (BR) would reduce the O2 cost of submaximal exercise and enhance the tolerance to high-intensity exercise. In a double-blind, placebo (PL)-controlled, crossover study, eight men (aged 19-38 yr) consumed 500 ml/day of either BR (containing 11.2 +/- 0.6 mM of nitrate) or blackcurrant cordial (as a PL, with negligible nitrate content) for 6 consecutive days and completed a series of "step" moderate-intensity and severe-intensity exercise tests on the last 3 days. On days 4-6, plasma nitrite concentration was significantly greater following dietary nitrate supplementation compared with PL (BR: 273 +/- 44 vs. PL: 140 +/- 50 nM; P < 0.05), and systolic blood pressure was significantly reduced (BR: 124 +/- 2 vs. PL: 132 +/- 5 mmHg; P < 0.01). During moderate exercise, nitrate supplementation reduced muscle fractional O2 extraction (as estimated using near-infrared spectroscopy). The gain of the increase in pulmonary O2 uptake following the onset of moderate exercise was reduced by 19% in the BR condition (BR: 8.6 +/- 0.7 vs. PL: 10.8 +/- 1.6 ml.min(-1).W(-1); P < 0.05). During severe exercise, the O2 uptake slow component was reduced (BR: 0.57 +/- 0.20 vs. PL: 0.74 +/- 0.24 l/min; P < 0.05), and the time-to-exhaustion was extended (BR: 675 +/- 203 vs. PL: 583 +/- 145 s; P < 0.05). The reduced O2 cost of exercise following increased dietary nitrate intake has important implications for our understanding of the factors that regulate mitochondrial respiration and muscle contractile energetics in humans.

    PMID: 19661447 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Free Article
    Am J Physiol Regul Integr Comp Physiol. 2010 Oct;299(4):R1121-31. Epub 2010 Aug 11.

    Acute and chronic effects of dietary nitrate supplementation on blood pressure and the physiological responses to moderate-intensity and incremental exercise.
    Vanhatalo A, Bailey SJ, Blackwell JR, DiMenna FJ, Pavey TG, Wilkerson DP, Benjamin N, Winyard PG, Jones AM.

    Univ. of Exeter, UK.

    Abstract
    Dietary nitrate (NO(3)(-)) supplementation with beetroot juice (BR) over 4-6 days has been shown to reduce the O(2) cost of submaximal exercise and to improve exercise tolerance. However, it is not known whether shorter (or longer) periods of supplementation have similar (or greater) effects. We therefore investigated the effects of acute and chronic NO(3)(-) supplementation on resting blood pressure (BP) and the physiological responses to moderate-intensity exercise and ramp incremental cycle exercise in eight healthy subjects. Following baseline tests, the subjects were assigned in a balanced crossover design to receive BR (0.5 l/day; 5.2 mmol of NO(3)(-)/day) and placebo (PL; 0.5 l/day low-calorie juice cordial) treatments. The exercise protocol (two moderate-intensity step tests followed by a ramp test) was repeated 2.5 h following first ingestion (0.5 liter) and after 5 and 15 days of BR and PL. Plasma nitrite concentration (baseline: 454 81 nM) was significantly elevated (+39% at 2.5 h postingestion; +25% at 5 days; +46% at 15 days; P < 0.05) and systolic and diastolic BP (baseline: 127 6 and 72 5 mmHg, respectively) were reduced by ∼4% throughout the BR supplementation period (P < 0.05). Compared with PL, the steady-state Vo(2) during moderate exercise was reduced by ∼4% after 2.5 h and remained similarly reduced after 5 and 15 days of BR (P < 0.05). The ramp test peak power and the work rate at the gas exchange threshold (baseline: 322 67 W and 89 15 W, respectively) were elevated after 15 days of BR (331 68 W and 105 28 W; P < 0.05) but not PL (323 68 W and 84 18 W). These results indicate that dietary NO(3)(-) supplementation acutely reduces BP and the O(2) cost of submaximal exercise and that these effects are maintained for at least 15 days if supplementation is continued.

    PMID: 20702806 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
    There are more...
    ForeRunner Labs
    The Future of Human Performance
    Please LIKE FRL on Facebook


  4. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    The "pump" is completely besides the point when talking about performance improvements. The following would indicate a potential for ergogenic benefits:

    There are more...
    I know that a pump =/ any ergogenic benefits, which is exactly why I asked if it is more of a cosmetic supplement or something with additional benefits.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  5. On a funny side note, I've noticed bacon contains nitrates. I might have to try an experiment and see how many pounds of bacon to eat for a decent pump. Even if it doesn't work, hey, it's still bacon!!
    •   
       


  6. Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    On a funny side note, I've noticed bacon contains nitrates. I might have to try an experiment and see how many pounds of bacon to eat for a decent pump. Even if it doesn't work, hey, it's still bacon!!
    Bacon nitrates are different. But yeah bacon is good.
    ForeRunner Labs
    The Future of Human Performance
    Please LIKE FRL on Facebook


  7. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    The "pump" is completely besides the point when talking about performance improvements...
    Does AMS have any plans to release a Nitrate inspired supplement in the near future?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by hoopem6 View Post
    Does AMS have any plans to release a Nitrate inspired supplement in the near future?
    Nope
    ForeRunner Labs
    The Future of Human Performance
    Please LIKE FRL on Facebook

  9. AnabolicMinds Site Rep
    MidwestBeast's Avatar

    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    On a funny side note, I've noticed bacon contains nitrates. I might have to try an experiment and see how many pounds of bacon to eat for a decent pump. Even if it doesn't work, hey, it's still bacon!!
    Very amusing, considering all the bacon talk we had in the Testalensis thread...
    Psalm 34:10 - "The lions may grow weak and hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good thing."
    EvoMuse Representative | sales@evolutionarymuse.com | Inspire to Evolve

  10. nitrates cooked become nitrites= not good

  11. I got a bottle of APS CN last week ...

    Popped four caps before morning workout and went in to hit back ...

    Awesome - I don't care about the insane pump - it was awesome though but ...

    I was throwing around weight like there was no tomorrow - very satisfying workout.

    Where's that bulk CN now?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Ev52 View Post
    nitrates cooked become nitrites= not good
    I'm a real man, I eat my bacon raw.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    I'm a real man, I eat my bacon raw.
    bacon sushi?
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    I got a bottle of APS CN last week ...

    Popped four caps before morning workout and went in to hit back ...

    Awesome - I don't care about the insane pump - it was awesome though but ...

    I was throwing around weight like there was no tomorrow - very satisfying workout.

    Where's that bulk CN now?
    So, how long have you been taking it? When you make a statement like that it tells me I should be expecting huge strength increases within a week.

  15. ok, thanks for that. I think i am going to purchase one, as I think this is a great way to get more nutrients, fiber, etc into your system. As you know most people's systems are acidic which isnt favorable to gains. What brand do you have.

    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I use it in two different ways: for the juice, obviously, and then the pulp as a base for smoothies.

    What I usually use in the morning is an apple, 2 carrots, and 5-6 strawberries (cleaned and trimmed) and this makes about 12-14 oz of juice. I then take the pulp out of the catcher and place it in a bowl for later. This makes the base of my smoothies along with almond of coconut milk with some extra spinach and frozen berries and some protein powder. The ORAC for these drinks is very high and extremely alkalinic.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by msucurt View Post
    ok, thanks for that. I think i am going to purchase one, as I think this is a great way to get more nutrients, fiber, etc into your system. As you know most people's systems are acidic which isnt favorable to gains. What brand do you have.

    thanks
    Amazon.com: The Sharper Image 8021SI Stainless-Steel 700-Watt Super Juicer: Kitchen & Dining
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I know that a pump =/ any ergogenic benefits, which is exactly why I asked if it is more of a cosmetic supplement or something with additional benefits.
    How would Creatine Nitrate compare to GPLC in that regard?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    How would Creatine Nitrate compare to GPLC in that regard?
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    On a funny side note, I've noticed bacon contains nitrates. I might have to try an experiment and see how many pounds of bacon to eat for a decent pump. Even if it doesn't work, hey, it's still bacon!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Bacon nitrates are different. But yeah bacon is good.
    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Very amusing, considering all the bacon talk we had in the Testalensis thread...
    Quote Originally Posted by subweevil View Post
    I'm a real man, I eat my bacon raw.
    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    bacon sushi?

    I like the direction this thread is going...

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    I like the direction this thread is going...
    better than it was, i feel like i took a beating in this thread, lol.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    How would Creatine Nitrate compare to GPLC in that regard?
    Well, GPLC has some clinical studies showing it helps on anaerobic fatigue and increasing NO levels. To my knowledge, there is not any study using CN.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys


  22. Quote Originally Posted by Milas View Post
    How would Creatine Nitrate compare to GPLC in that regard?
    I like GPLC but I find Creatine Nitrate works much better, hey Milas didn't you find it worked better then GPLC as well?

    They are both great ingredients but Creatine Nitrate reviews seem to be amazing, the strength gains some of the people have been getting on Creatine Nitrate have been outstanding, not sure if you checked out bludevils log but his lifts went way up!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Well, GPLC has some clinical studies showing it helps on anaerobic fatigue and increasing NO levels. To my knowledge, there is not any study using CN.
    Interesting. Have you used GPLC? How were your results?

    What would you say is better for anaerobic fatigue and increasing NO; GPLC or Nitrates?

    (not necessarily creatine nitrate since there are no studies on that)

  24. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    better than it was, i feel like i took a beating in this thread, lol.
    You? You're one of the most cordial folks on here! You're not "repping" Creatine Nitrate again, are you?
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 08-14-2015, 04:57 AM
  2. Creatine Nitrate
    By fightbackhxc in forum Supplements
    Replies: 86
    Last Post: 10-17-2011, 08:24 AM
  3. Creatine Nitrate
    By eddiejerom in forum Supplements
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-03-2011, 06:41 AM
  4. creatine nitrate...
    By massolic in forum Supplements
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 04-18-2011, 03:47 PM
Log in
Log in