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09-12-2007, 07:58 PM
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| Banned  | I wouldn't sweat the aldosterone reading. Unless I see low aldo confirmed by urinary analysis I don't buy much into it. Your DHEA and Preg both went down. Want to bet that your TT is sky high right now, way above the 4 something range it was before? This is common for other androgenic hormones to crash when exogenous T is administered. By knowing that, Im betting 10 -1 your shots are working. Im not a fan of oral DHEA. Get some Dermacrine JansZ. I think they have a superior delivery system than the usual preg compounded cream you get from a script, plus the added bonus of DHEA transdermal. Start at half dose. Plus added resveratrol and benzoflavone 7,8 in it. Where do you get resveratrol( you netioned 200mg a day) LEF is way to expensive. Check my "resveratrol really cheap" post, I like revegentics for pure RSV, the X500, VERY cheap. |
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09-17-2007, 04:33 PM
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| Registered User | Ok, so I have my blood test result from 8/30/07 blood draw. They shorted me on Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS) Dihydrotestosterone, Free, Serum (36168X) so next script is on a way and I will have to get poked again. There is two Estrodial results, from description I thought that both were ultrasensitive, but I got different results. I am going with the one that comes with FreeE2 My freeE2 is high, (but my pines is working ok). I am incresing Liquidex from 0.5 to 0.6cc E3D so my weekly dose is now 0.6*7/3=1.4cc/week increase from 0.5*7/3=1.17cc/week my Fibrinogen=424(175-425) LEF wants (180-250) I asked doc for TRENTAL® (pentoxifylline) Tablets, 400 mg 1 or 2 tablets daily will see what comes out of this request FreeT3 freeT4 9/16/07 I upped Armour from 3grains to 3.5 also asked for script for Synthroid 25mcg, I will use 1pill/day. 9/20/07 Changed back to 3grains plus 2pills Synthroid 25mcg. Hopefuly my body can convert some T4-->T3 and I raise both FreeT4 and FreeT3 will be watching pulse and temps. --------- Pregnenolone/DHEA I upped preg cream from one to 2grams/day Started on DHEA, 100mg/day ---------------------------- Genova Diagnostics EstroEssence and Metabolic Analysis Profile and Cellular Energy Profile out for testing Monday Oct1/2007 ================================================== ====================== Oct1/2007 finaly received testosterone results (after second poking), they still omitted DHT. . 68 Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS) Quest Diagnostics: Test Menu 69 /------------------------------------ 1151 (250-1100) ng/dL Testosterone Total 70 /------------------------------------ 248.5 (46-224) pg/mL Testosterone Free 71 /------------------------------------ 456.9 (110-575) ng/dL Testosterone Bioavailable 72 /------------------------------------ 26 (17-54) nmol/L SHBG 73 /------------------------------------ 4.0 (3.6-5.1) g/dL Albumin, serum 74 Dihydrotestosterone, Free, Serum (36168X) --------- Quest Diagnostics: Test Menu 75 /------------------------------------ 69 (25-75 ) ng/dL Dihydrotestosterone 76 /------------------------------------ 7.52 (1.00-6.20) pg/mL Dihydrotestosterone, FREE 77 /------------------------------------ 1.09% (0.62-1.10) % Dihydrotestosterone, FREE % ------ My goal FreeT~300, =(248.5-46)/(300-46)=0.7972 (dose is short 20%) BAT~575 (top range), =(456.9-110)/(575-110)=0.7460 (dose is short 25%) 730 740 750 760 770 780 790 800 810 820 830 840 850 860 870 880 890 900 910 449 454 459 463 468 473 477 482 487 491 496 501 505 510 515 519 524 529 533 920 930 940 950 960 970 980 990 1000 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 538 542 547 552 556 561 566 570 575.0 580 584 589 594 598 603 608 612 617 622 I am still short on both The test represents my Depo-Tshots=30units at E3D schedule. My new dose should be around =30/0.75=40units=186.7mg/week =30/0.8=37.5units=175mg/week conservatively I make my new dose =38units=177.3mg/week ------ Note1, using dr Shippen chart my FreeT=325pg/mL Note2, using (totally unreliable BAT)(but FreeT sort of close) Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator FreeT=343 pg/mL BAT=750ng/dL . Note3, the 31GA 5/16"long leaked out little bit of oil, changed (over month ago) to 30Ga 1/2"Long . . .................................................. ........................... they have Novarel. No Novarel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Note, nov9/07 For a while I have changed Novarel from 500iu on the day of T shots to 250iu on both days between T shot. My testicles are little firmer, scrotum hangs low more often. Since now I am doing shots every day, I decided to do T shots E2D and 250iu in beween. Testosterone was 38units now 38/3*2=25.33~ 25.5units 38*7/3= my weekly dose is: =0.255*200*7/2=178.5mg/week my old weekly dose, the one corresponding to current test results was 0.3*7/3*200=140 I expect that my BAT should raise to 456.9*178.5/140=583 actually even more because blood was drawn on third day, but now it will be drawn on second day after T shot. Liquidex on days of T shot, 0.6/3*2=0.4cc Dec6/07 Started Anastrozole from ChemOne Research it is sweet and do not sting, wonder if will work. Dark in color, hard to see numbers on syringe. Some morning wood problems, decreasing dose to 0.36=36units 0.36*7/2=1.295cc/week Arimidex pills/week Dec20/07 EstroEssence from Dec13/07 shows low urine E2 Change Anastrozole to 0.33*7/2=1.155cc/week Feb29/08 Stopped DualAction, BreastFormula, MiraForte Started 2 scoops DIM-Powder Change Anastrozole to =0.38*7/2=1.33cc/week Piston on my 3/10cc syringe is 6 units high, top of piston is at 38+6=44 Mar15/08 Anastrozole 45units (45+6=51) .45*7/2=1.575 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------) My E2 story See erection weakness. Blood drawn 3/19/08, reported 3/31/2008 DHT=81(25-75) E2=4(< or =29) E2, Free=.07(< or = 0.45) E2,%Free=1.82(1.25 - 1.85) Stopped Anastrozole, 3/31/08 --- Pines worked best while in Atlantic City (May 25/08) --- See erection weakness Blood drawn 5/23/08, reported 6/4/08 (instead of 48 hrs, had to draw 24 hrs after T shot, so the TT values are little higher) E2D schedule, T=25.5units=178.5mg/week, HCG=500iu No Anastrozole since 3/31/08 TT=1117(250-1100) BAT=584.6(46-575) FreeT=303.5(46-224) SHBG=18 Albumin=4.2 DHT=77(25-75) E2=39(< or =29) E2, Free=1.07(< or = 0.45) E2,%Free=2.73(1.25 - 1.85) Note: See erection weakness, but week ago was still strong. Most likely I feel best at E2=29 June 10/08, restarted Anastrozole 0.25cc/E2D=0.25*7/2=0.875/week about June 15 changed to 0.25cc every day June 26/08 first night with strong nightly wood. (today is my HCG day, no Anastrozole until second T shot) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Discussion with colkurtz_spf about hcg level. HCG not restoring ball size. . I am going back to 31ga 5/16"long needle 3/10cc the dose will fit in that small volume syringe Any leaking is small any how, 30ga 1/2"long needle also leaked sometime minimizing scar tissue is more important to me. . ----------------------------------------------------------------- Located study: Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression http://calendar.hsl.washington.edu/d...Dose_Human.pdf Study shown that: 125, 250, or 500 IU hCG every other day Posttreatment ITT was 25% less than baseline in the 125 IU hCG group, 7% less than baseline in the 250 IU hCG group, and 26% greater than baseline in the 500 IU hCG group. --------------------------- I am changing my HCG dose to 110% my new dose of HCG=380IU=19units I dissolve hcg in 5mL Bwater. today 11/30/2007 =============================================== Pregnyl® 1500IU - X-PIL Pregnyl® 1500 I.U. Pregnyl comes as 2 ml ampoules of dry white powder with 1 ml ampoule of solvent. =============================================== Pregnyl® 5000IU - X-PIL Pregnyl® 5000 I.U. Pregnyl comes as 2 ml ampoules of dry white powder with 1 ml ampoule of solvent. That is very little amount of solvent, reason not to buy it. =============================================== Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression -- Coviello et al. 90 (5): 2595 -- Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism Low-Dose Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Maintains Intratesticular Testosterone in Normal Men with Testosterone-Induced Gonadotropin Suppression © 2005 |
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09-17-2007, 05:10 PM
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Curcumin is supposed to do a job on fibrinogen. Do you have any experience with it? | |
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09-17-2007, 05:17 PM
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LEF recomends Trental. Hopefully my doc will come thru. I will see him in an hour. (Good doc, I am able to contact him at will, to ease up on his time, few hour ago I send e-mail with my requests ). Inflammation (Chronic) - Print Version : Online Reference For Health Concerns Ok, Synthroid 25mcg and Pentoxifylli 400mg are at home. I am at 3.5 grains of Armour, that should put my FreeT3 at the top range but my freeT4 will lag behind hence 1pill 25mcg/day of Synthroid. I newer tried, I may be one of the lucky guys who convert T4-->T3 Latter may want to get down on Armour and boost up Synthroid. Looking for a formula on how to do it. Assuming 3.5 Grains of Armour and 25mcg Synthroid keep FreeT3 and FreeT4 on top. Assuming that I am able to fully convert T3--->T3 how (without blood testing) figure my theoretical T4 dose that I would need in the basence of Armour. ================================================== =================== Nov9/07 For about 3 weeks I am using 3x25mcg Levothyroxin and 3Grains Armour divided in half. Normally I do not use Cortef but if I feel little down, and have dancing or gym ahead, I take one 5mg Cortef 2-3 hours before, sometimes another Cortef before I start dancing and feel much better and have better stamina. | |
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11-20-2007, 04:21 PM
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11-20-2007, 05:50 PM
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| Registered User | HCG works like LH (Luteinizing Hormone). LH in men controls testosterone release. HMG works like FSH (Follicular Stimulating Hormone). FSH in men triggers sperm production. There's less difference between male and female systems than you might think! Mark |
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11-20-2007, 08:22 PM
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It sounds like what I need is the hCG, which is an IM injection, correct? | |
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02-02-2008, 08:29 PM
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hardasnails i was wondering if you are a dr?also wondering where you get the basis for over 800-900 t level is unsafe. not breaking stones...just trying to understand. bodybuilders regularly have t levels of double or triple that and when on much higher. do you have any links / research that support what you are saying? bob | |
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02-08-2008, 04:08 PM
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| Registered User | I am not a Dr, any opinion that I have is based on my own experience. Any changes in my regime are always discussed with and are approved by my doctor. |
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02-09-2008, 09:36 AM
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| Registered User | Jan....thanks fo the B12 info  Hardasnails....bump on the t question Bob |
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04-05-2008, 10:32 AM
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| Registered User | rT3 high, how to deal with it Use thise three Genova diagnostics tests. Comprehensive Thyroid Assesment Oxidative Stress Panel (part of NutrEval) Elemental Analysis, Packed Erythrocytes (RBC's)(part of NutrEval) Read results, follow advice given by those tests. So really best would be to use two tests (few extra $$ but lots of informations): NutrEval Comprehensive Thyroid Assesment --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- ------------------- High rT3 5' deiodinase (Se dependent) ---------------------------------------------------------- Selenium also performs other important roles in the body. The most important of these is probably as its role as the body's best antioxidant (anti-peroxidant). It performs this role as part of glutathione peroxidase (GSHPx or GPX). Glutathione Peroxidase (GSH-Px) Glutathione peroxidase is a selenium-dependant enzyme found primarily in the cytoplasm (70%) but also in the mitochondria (30%). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Genova Diagnostics' Oxidative Stress Panel checks Glutathione Peroxidase ----------------------------------------------------------------- Interactions, (close): (iodine, selenium, zinc, copper) ie; at least above four have to be in proper balance --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Genova Diagnostics' Elemental Analysis, Packed Erythrocytes (RBC's) checks (it is missing iodine): TOXICS Antimony Arsenic Cadmium Lead Mercury Thallium Tin NUTRIENTS Chromium Copper Magnesium Manganese Potassium Selenium Vanadium Zinc --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the above investigations falls short, further investigations should be made looking into: Interactions, (wide range) Ag, Co, Cr, Fe, Hg, I,Rb, Sb, Sc, Se, Zn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.ithyroid.com/iodine.htm While I've found research on the interactions of iodine and selenium, there are two other minerals which need to be studied for their interactions with these two: zinc and copper. I found one study which examined the complex interactions of selenium, iodine, and zinc (there are interactions), but none which have looked at all four minerals in a 4 X 4 factorial design. Now that would be an interesting study! Hopefully someone will do that soon. I think one lesson from studying the interactions of selenium and iodine is that the interrelationships between minerals are very complicated. Supplementing with one or two can cause further problems. You have to make sure that you correct every deficiency. Health is built from a chain of nutrients and, like a chain, health cannot be accomplished if one nutrient is missing. Sometimes it's complicated putting the chain back together without running into problems (like supplementing with either selenium or iodine, but not both), but every deficiency has to be corrected. John I am not a Dr, any opinion that I have is based on my own experience. Any changes in my regime are always discussed with and are approved by my doctor. |
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04-05-2008, 10:56 PM
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| Registered User | Blood test at Quest, blood drawn 3/19/2008 page #1 --Comp metabolic panel page #2 --Hepatic function panel page #3 --CBC w/Diff , risk factors page #4 -- page #5 -- VAP Cholesterol I am not a Dr, any opinion that I have is based on my own experience. Any changes in my regime are always discussed with and are approved by my doctor. |
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04-06-2008, 12:59 AM
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| Registered User   | Holy crap your iodine levels are off the chart. |
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04-06-2008, 01:52 AM
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04-16-2008, 10:26 AM
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| Registered User | rT3 high, how to deal with it rT3 high, how to deal with it Use thise three Genova diagnostics tests. Comprehensive Thyroid Assesment Oxidative Stress Panel (part of NutrEval) Elemental Analysis, Packed Erythrocytes (RBC's)(part of NutrEval) Read results, follow advice given by those tests. So really best would be to use two tests (few extra $$ but lots of informations): NutrEval Comprehensive Thyroid Assesment --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- ------------------- High rT3 5' deiodinase (Se dependent) ---------------------------------------------------------- Selenium also performs other important roles in the body. The most important of these is probably as its role as the body's best antioxidant (anti-peroxidant). It performs this role as part of glutathione peroxidase (GSHPx or GPX). Glutathione Peroxidase (GSH-Px) Glutathione peroxidase is a selenium-dependant enzyme found primarily in the cytoplasm (70%) but also in the mitochondria (30%). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Genova Diagnostics' Oxidative Stress Panel checks Glutathione Peroxidase ----------------------------------------------------------------- Interactions, (close): (iodine, selenium, zinc, copper) ie; at least above four have to be in proper balance --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Genova Diagnostics' Elemental Analysis, Packed Erythrocytes (RBC's) checks (it is missing iodine): TOXICS Antimony Arsenic Cadmium Lead Mercury Thallium Tin NUTRIENTS Chromium Copper Magnesium Manganese Potassium Selenium Vanadium Zinc --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If the above investigations falls short, further investigations should be made looking into: Interactions, (wide range) Ag, Co, Cr, Fe, Hg, I,Rb, Sb, Sc, Se, Zn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.ithyroid.com/iodine.htm While I've found research on the interactions of iodine and selenium, there are two other minerals which need to be studied for their interactions with these two: zinc and copper. I found one study which examined the complex interactions of selenium, iodine, and zinc (there are interactions), but none which have looked at all four minerals in a 4 X 4 factorial design. Now that would be an interesting study! Hopefully someone will do that soon. I think one lesson from studying the interactions of selenium and iodine is that the interrelationships between minerals are very complicated. Supplementing with one or two can cause further problems. You have to make sure that you correct every deficiency. Health is built from a chain of nutrients and, like a chain, health cannot be accomplished if one nutrient is missing. Sometimes it's complicated putting the chain back together without running into problems (like supplementing with either selenium or iodine, but not both), but every deficiency has to be corrected. John I am not a Dr, any opinion that I have is based on my own experience. Any changes in my regime are always discussed with and are approved by my doctor. |
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04-16-2008, 10:27 AM
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