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Current regime HRT
60 mgs test monday and thursday
250 ius hcg wed and sunday
adex .25 mgs EOD (increased from m,w,f,) due to potential e2 from dhea
dhea 25 mgs BID
cjc1295 -100 mcgs - before bed each night
ghrp-6 - 100 mcgs - before bed every night
t-3 25 mcgs - 12.5mgs BID split 8 hours apart
120 mgs of armour (60 mgs BID ) hour before breakfast
cortef - 10mgs, 5 mgs, 5 mgs, before 4 pm
injections methy b-12 5,000 mcgs combined with 2500 mcgs leucovarin. sunday, wed

cholesterol support 4 raw organic eggs a day, 6 oz lean ground beef day


Labs just drawn today..
Labs

Total testosterone
Free testosterone
Bioavailable testosterone
Estradiol Ultra sensitive, LC/MS/MS (30289X)* ( NOT RAPID ESTRADIOL)
Estrone
SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin)
DHEA-S
DHT
progesterone
IGF-1
Igfbp3
Total T3
Total T4
Reverse t-3
Free t-3
Free t-4
Thyroid Antibodies TGaB (Thyroid Peroxidase antibodies)
TPO
TSH 3 rd generation
25(OH)D, also called 25-hydroxyvitamin D
Ferritin
CMP with liver panel
CBC
Copper serum
Ceruloplasm
Vap
homocysteine
Cortisol am
PSA
Prolactin

Diagnostic codes
799.81 440.0
259.9 250,0
255.5 244.9
257.0 611.1
253.2 275.1
272.0
600.0

Previous HRT
Same TRT
25 mgs dhea
t-3 same
armour - 1.5 grains
no GHRT
no Methy b-12/folinic acid
adex .25mgs m,w,f


Prevoius labs 9 weeks ago
Total T 1011 (300-1100)
bio T 495
e2 <13 (<29)
dhea 220 (100-360)
ft3 2.7 (2.3-4.2)
ft4 .9 (.8-1.8)
tsh 1.35
reverse t-3 18 (10-30)
TPO Negative <10
TGAB Negative <10
ferritin 80 (20-360)
homocystein 5.2 5-13
Igf-1 176 NO GHRT
Vitamin D 60 - 5,000 ius a day just raised to 6-8000 ius a day for past 4 weeks.
total cholesterol was 115 - ouch low..

Symptoms expericing cuurently
Constipation severe - despite enyzme, proper diet, magnesium, serotonin supplements, probiotics
bloating of abs
water on stomach
lack of appeite
muscle lacking that hard look despitre doing every thing that one can do to achieve it.
poor digestion
gyno - nipples are swollen and tender
prostrate swollen 2 times the normal size.
Bad body odor - estrogen imbalance causes this.
 
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Thats a lot of HRT!

Man even you have symptoms i cannot believe it haha...

Your thyroid antibodies are good.

Mine not so good...

Thyroglobulin Antibodies - 50 *
Thyroid Peroxidase Antibodies - 2069 (Hot damn!)

This was Janurary of last year. I have read high thyroid antibodies are linked to pericious anemia so awaiting for the results of my Urine methylmalonic acid to see whats up.

Matrix do you think Selenium is helpful in reducing the TP antibodies?

I have been diagnosed as having chronic fatigue syndome/multiple chemical sensitivity but thats all crap its not a diagnosis but a diagnosis

I have the constipation too, but it is better when im taking digestive enzymes with meals. Everything is better when i take Digestive enzymes.

Do you have difficulty urinating with that swollen prostate?
 

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i thought u were off Cortef

once you start using HRT it may be impossible to become 100%.... you added more of something it which causes imbalances in other parts... its never ending it seems..
 
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Current regime HRT
60 mgs test monday and thursday
250 ius hcg wed and sunday
adex .25 mgs EOD (increased from m,w,f,) due to potential e2 from dhea
dhea 25 mgs BID
cjc1295 -100 mcgs - before bed each night
ghrp-6 - 100 mcgs - before bed every night
t-3 25 mcgs - 12.5mgs BID split 8 hours apart
120 mgs of armour (60 mgs BID ) hour before breakfast
cortef - 10mgs, 5 mgs, 5 mgs, before 4 pm
injections methy b-12 5,000 mcgs combined with 2500 mcgs leucovarin. sunday, wed

cholesterol support 4 raw organic eggs a day, 6 oz lean ground beef day

Labs drawn on hcg day but no shot was taken
but with 10 mgs of cortef taken prior interesting results
ferritin 42 (on 50mgs of iron) the zinc could be binding both copper and iron, mangese as well.
ceruplasm 19 ( 18-36 ) something is binding it zinc? (wilsons disease?)
Copper 77 (70-155) LOW excessive zinc? not balancing out with copper
thyroid anti bodies all negative
vitamin D 58 (20 -100 ) on 6,000 ius vitamin D a day OUCH
dhea sulfate 396 (110-510) perfect 50 mgs dhea is optimal
progesterone 1.4 >1.4 perfect
prolactin 5.6 (2-18) good
igf-1 362 (106-255) but really 106-362 YES GHRT WORKS !!
t3 total 162 (97-219) yes perfect
t4 total 5.5 (4.5 - 12.5) too low (copper defieincy verifed through lab and also rats studies
tsh .03 ( finally suppressed) 2 grains did it !!
cortisol am 20.4 (4-22) This is from 10 mgs cortef taken 1 hour prior blood draw
PSA 1.1 (<4.0) dhea might be aggravating his
Igf-bp3 4.6 (3.4 -7.0)
DHT 139 (25-75)
TT 866 good
total free 154
bio T 323.6 (probably from cortisol)
shbg 27
platets low 123
total cholesterol 123 (low) not absorbing it (going to goto choleserol pills)
hdl came up
LPA -8 <10 still can come down increased sat fats
estrodial still pending.
reverse t3 still pending.
focus on copper imbalance (too much zinc and iron binding copper) which can be causing increase in D1 in thyroid
may
 
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Explanation of codes posted by HAN.

Thank you HAN.

This list is worth as much as a gold.
Print it out togeteher with list on my post #44
have it with you always when in doctor's office.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/male-anti-aging/66268-jans-bloodtest-april13-2.html
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244.9 ========== Unspecified acquired hypothyroidism
250,0 ========== Diabetes mellitus without mention of complication
253.2 ========== Panhypopituitarism
255.5 ========== Other adrenal hypofunction
257 ========== Testicular hyperfunction
259.9 ========== Unspecified endocrine disorder
272 ========== Pure hypercholesterolemia
275.1 ========== Disorders of copper metabolism
440 ========== Atherosclerosis
600 ========== Hyperplasia of prostate
611.1 ========== Hypertrophy of breast
799.81 ========== Decreased libido


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http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/default.htm
Unspecified acquired hypothyroidism ========== 244.9 ========== Unspecified acquired hypothyroidism
Diabetes mellitus without mention of complication ========== 250,0 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/250-259/250/250.0.htm
Panhypopituitarism ========== 253.2 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/250-259/253/253.2.htm
Other adrenal hypofunction ========== 255.5 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/250-259/255/255.5.htm
Testicular hyperfunction ========== 257 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/250-259/257/257.0.htm
Unspecified endocrine disorder ========== 259.9 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/250-259/259/259.9.htm
Pure hypercholesterolemia ========== 272 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/270-279/272/272.0.htm
Disorders of copper metabolism ========== 275.1 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/240-279/270-279/275/275.1.htm
Atherosclerosis ========== 440 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/390-459/440-448/440/440.htm
Hyperplasia of prostate ========== 600 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/580-629/600-608/600/600.htm
Hypertrophy of breast ========== 611.1 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/580-629/610-611/611/611.1.htm
Decreased libido ========== 799.81 ========== http://www.icd9data.com/2007/Volume1/780-799/797-799/799/799.81.htm
 
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t-3 25 mcgs - 12.5mgs BID split 8 hours apart
120 mgs of armour (60 mgs BID ) hour before breakfast
t3 total 162 (97-219) yes perfect
t4 total 5.5 (4.5 - 12.5) too low (copper defieincy verifed through lab and also rats studies
tsh .03 ( finally suppressed) 2 grains did it !!
cortisol am 20.4 (4-22) This is from 10 mgs cortef taken 1 hour prior blood draw
reverse t3 still pending.
may
Where is your:
FreeT3
FreeT4

As you taking T3

FreeT3 ↑
TotalT3 ↑
TotalT4 ↓
FreeTT4 ↓
RT3 ↓


First priority while taking T3 supplementation, is to wait long enough and have good enough T3 dose until you get good progress in suppressing RT3.
Long term goal would be to have RT3 below middle of range, better goal would be to have it in bottom quarter of range.

Since you are not going to stay on large T3 dose forewer, you still want to stay there long enough to suppress RT3 at least to bottom quarter of range, say till end of 2009.
After you reduce T3 dosing, expect RT3 to raise somewhat, but hopefully to stay low over all.
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RT3(9-35)ng/dL

bottom quarter (35-9)/4+9=15.5
middle of range (35-9)2+9=22

you always want to be less than 22
you prefer to be less than 15.5

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Where is your:
FreeT3
FreeT4

As you taking T3

FreeT3 ↑
TotalT3 ↑
TotalT4 ↓
FreeTT4 ↓
RT3 ↓


First priority while taking T3 supplementation, is to wait long enough and have good enough T3 dose until you get good progress in suppressing RT3.
Long term goal would be to have RT3 below middle of range, better goal would be to have it in bottom quarter of range.

Since you are not going to stay on large T3 dose forewer, you still want to stay there long enough to suppress RT3 at least to bottom quarter of range, say till end of 2009.
After you reduce T3 dosing, expect RT3 to raise somewhat, but hopefully to stay low over all.
==============================
RT3(9-35)ng/dL

bottom quarter (35-9)/4+9=15.5
middle of range (35-9)2+9=22

you always want to be less than 22
you prefer to be less than 15.5

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As usually quest screwed up as usually as you can see they never due all the lab work. Total are getting better I need to get the free levels in check.

As soon as my thyroid gets up to par I am going to start tapering off the cortef. With weaken thyroid is over strains the adrenals and I have seen many people come off cortef once thyroid is maximize. Once thyroid is in check stress is taken off the adrenals and they recover hence what is happening to envigal. Goal for thyroid is total t-3, ft3 in upper 50-75% of the range, and when symptoms tend to regress. T-4 is only a resevoir for t3 so its really the ft3 and total t3 that should be focused on with t-4 having some in reserve case you run out of t-3. Reason I had armour and t3 was to keep rt3 down as a precaution because I tend to run on the high end. If my rt3 was elevated then I would just add in 2.5 grains of armour and then retest with same 25 mcg t-3. With rt/t3 you want greater the 12-15
 
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Swithcing 50 mgs DHEA to 7 keto made the biggest difference. Since swithcing and having every thing else the same my e2 took a huge nose dive (which is good, but is a real bastard to compensate from) Genetically people tend to convert DHEA to estrodial alot faster then other people and I feel 7 keto may hold the key for people on dhea and having elevated estrogen level with all benefits of dhea. I have an idea with proper monitoring adex will not be needed any more for me. I see this as a positive thing as there are less varaible involved mainly estrodial can be ruled out. Since stopping dhea I am pissing alot better, gyno has completely gone down and have all the signs of over dosing adex (bloating, depression, constpation, brain fog and muscle spasm, and drop in weight, appeitite. horrible joint pain as it getting worse, increased irritablity) more signs of hyperthyroidism. I am finding that this is a huge leap in possible people on TRT reducing or completely getting off adex.
 
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This may be a stupid question and it may be too personal, but what caused all this?
 
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This may be a stupid question and it may be too personal, but what caused all this?
Pushed genetic matrix to the limits did not listen to body when it was telling me to slow down (over training under eating, lack of sunlight, altered sleep patterns due to have to study late night for test) , genetic disposition to hypoglycemia, adrenal fatigue, hidden intestinal infection that snuck in an just was the last strawl that broke the camels back . Dr's did not listen and the infection shut stressed body causing cortisol levels to go up, thyroid to shut down and eventually adrenals to give out.
 
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Criminy, brother, sounds like a rough ride. Also sounds like you have the smarts to recoup, assuming recoup is possible. Best of luck.

Have you found PS to be of any use? It alway looked good to me on paper, but real-world results never seemed to live up to the hype.
 
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Criminy, brother, sounds like a rough ride. Also sounds like you have the smarts to recoup, assuming recoup is possible. Best of luck.

Have you found PS to be of any use? It alway looked good to me on paper, but real-world results never seemed to live up to the hype.
PS seems to be indicated in hyper adrenal cases not low adrenals. I recommend my clients to get 4 point saliva cortisol testing along with proper blood work. using PS when having low adrenals it would be counter productive at that give time. If you have high cortisol at night time with low melatonin then PS would be indicated there as well as potentially a little melatonin. Every case is different. Problem with people is they try to mimic what other people do and not knowing the whole case history tend to end up making matters worse. I spend more time undoing people self treatment then starting from ground zero. When I get a person that is fresh and not tainted but internet guru suggestion that person recovery is usually with in 3 months vs 6 months to a year in some cases.
 
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Pushed genetic matrix to the limits did not listen to body when it was telling me to slow down (over training under eating, lack of sunlight, altered sleep patterns due to have to study late night for test) , genetic disposition to hypoglycemia, adrenal fatigue, hidden intestinal infection that snuck in an just was the last strawl that broke the camels back . Dr's did not listen and the infection shut stressed body causing cortisol levels to go up, thyroid to shut down and eventually adrenals to give out.


Tell me about it... exact same thing happened to me and then some....

Too much training, Anabolics/clen/DNP and so forth, **** all sunlight, lots of supplements and lack of REM sleep (deep sleep) from constant awaking, hormones all under working, and pop the body fell apart.

When i was using the heaviest weights and pushing my body to the absolute maximum thats around the time it all started going down hill very very quickly. I was dumbbell bench pressing 210 pounds for 8 reps at my best.

Had high cortisol, now low. Been labeled with Chronic Fatigue Immune Deficiency Syndrome. (CFIDS).

As you mentioned its not about just one thing such as hormones but your whole lifestyle and way of living that impacts your well-being - sleep, relaxation techniques, exercise, good relationships with people etc...
 
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Tell me about it... exact same thing happened to me and then some....

Too much training, Anabolics/clen/DNP and so forth, **** all sunlight, lots of supplements and lack of REM sleep (deep sleep) from constant awaking, hormones all under working, and pop the body fell apart.

When i was using the heaviest weights and pushing my body to the absolute maximum thats around the time it all started going down hill very very quickly. I was dumbbell bench pressing 210 pounds for 8 reps at my best.

Had high cortisol, now low. Been labeled with Chronic Fatigue Immune Deficiency Syndrome. (CFIDS).

As you mentioned its not about just one thing such as hormones but your whole lifestyle and way of living that impacts your well-being - sleep, relaxation techniques, exercise, good relationships with people etc...
As a natural health consultant that is highly trained in numerous methods of natural healing it really comes down to lifestyles, nutritoin, and positive attitude. The number one step to getting better is to own your illness telling it what not to do and not letting it control you. Biggest thing I see in my practice is typical response that happens from stress. It really does not matter what stress is placed upon the body its biological response is the same. Once the stress is over then the body has to rebuild it self from cellular level up. Alot of times you have malabsorption issues which no matter what supplements you take will not be absorned. Remember our survival revolves are not the food we eat, but how we absorb, assimulate and then eliminate. The major thing I clear out would be the colon and excessive mucus. Done properly this should take about 1-2 months then the rebulding can began and body can absorb the nutrient. Untill this time supplement should be reduced to the bare minum because it can cause more damage. I have recently designed a protocol that will take care of this and takes about 2-3 months to really feel the effects. Again it will take lifestyle changes in order to accomplish this.
 
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The number one step to getting better is to own your illness telling it what not to do and not letting it control you.


I think you are very right with the above ^^^


In terms of colon cleansing im about to do a colonic. I've used many supplements to get my bowels going but its all coming back to hormonal issues with slow metabolism/autoimmune thyroid disease being the main problem.

Say Matrix whats your take on the best EFA's supplement what oils would it contain?

I like using Udo's oil but its just too damn expensive... would it be good to brew your own so to speak with mixing oils?

I mainly use flaxseed and olive oil's.

You mentioned something earlier that flaxseed oil lowers Testosterone levels? but would this even make a splash in the ocean if someone was using 1 tablespoon per day?
 
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The number one step to getting better is to own your illness telling it what not to do and not letting it control you.


I think you are very right with the above ^^^


In terms of colon cleansing im about to do a colonic. I've used many supplements to get my bowels going but its all coming back to hormonal issues with slow metabolism/autoimmune thyroid disease being the main problem.

Say Matrix whats your take on the best EFA's supplement what oils would it contain?

I like using Udo's oil but its just too damn expensive... would it be good to brew your own so to speak with mixing oils?

I mainly use flaxseed and olive oil's.

You mentioned something earlier that flaxseed oil lowers Testosterone levels? but would this even make a splash in the ocean if someone was using 1 tablespoon per day?
I do not recommend EFA's untill I really see what is going on in the cell membrane. Fish oils for you would most likely become a poison. Flax also fits into that category. UDOS IS WORSE CHOICE untill more is known EVCCO and EVO would be the safest to use now with some GLA, organic eggs
 

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Pushed genetic matrix to the limits did not listen to body when it was telling me to slow down (over training under eating, lack of sunlight, altered sleep patterns due to have to study late night for test) , genetic disposition to hypoglycemia, adrenal fatigue, hidden intestinal infection that snuck in an just was the last strawl that broke the camels back . Dr's did not listen and the infection shut stressed body causing cortisol levels to go up, thyroid to shut down and eventually adrenals to give out.
Hey...
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what is Genetic Matrix?

I had been working out a lot...
And not getting much sleep.
And now for almost a year... My life has gone down the shitter.
I don't know what happened.

Would taking Multi-Vitamin supplements be bad for me in my state?
Because I have been taking those.
 
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Hey...
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what is Genetic Matrix?

I had been working out a lot...
And not getting much sleep.
And now for almost a year... My life has gone down the shitter.
I don't know what happened.

Would taking Multi-Vitamin supplements be bad for me in my state?
Because I have been taking those.
Its your predispostion to handle stress..Some people can handle the world on their back other crack at the littlest things. If you want feel free to contact me as I have gotten many peoples lifes back to balance through exploriing many different areas.. Taking a multi is fine, but having it absorbed due to too much stress is another thing. Simple nutrient imbalance can cause depression and anxiety among alot of other areas that need to be explored.
 

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