Real Discussion: AAS and shrinking penile syndrome:

[motiv8er]

I have to start this off. My *junk is still fine and suitible for all practical purposes. I am being totaly info-honest here and looking for validity. I am a well indowed average man. But since using hormones has left me gifted/challenged I feel less able,(sexually) full than in my past. What I have done performance wise (gym) has left me proud of my abilities as a man. I am also aware that my manhood has become more minimized on a daily basis. Not that I don't have maximum ability, just that I am now hormonally all over the place. It seems while flacid I AM smaller. When aroused I am all there. The changes I have noted. I am hoping my experiences can help others know more 'bout there decisions.

This is a tough subject to verbilize. I am hoping to get a grasp of other members opinions and hope I am not alone in some of my observations. Thank you for your understanding.

Motiv8er

 

[Beowulf]

I have very little experience with androgens, so nothing like this has happened to me. I don't think I've ever heard about anything like this before.

Could this be an unspoken of side?

Actually, I doubt it is common b/c if it were the steroid witch hunters would be all over it.

 

[mab904]

Remembered seeing this Q&A article on that topic. I think it's the 12th question on the page.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/roberts/990607.htm

 

[chasec]

i can say for me it's more of a psychological side than anything. kind of like a hypochondriac sees symptoms in himself/herself that aren't real.

bottom line: my buddy's the same and continues to work well after plenty of androgens!

 

[glenihan]

trust me your dong did not shrink because of gear

 

[CEDeoudes59]

enter HCG and your slightly bigger, me anyway...

 

[bioman]

No, it didn't shrink.

What's probably happening is that your hormones are not "quite" balanced yet after your last cycle. This can take a long time for some people, myself included, despite running a the best PCT available.

Slightly low test levels, FSH or LH levels can indirectly lead to libido issues and these can take on a myriad of different symptoms...not all centering around shrunken testicles or erectile dysfuntion as many believe. Temporary loss of "vigor" relating to erections or desire, drive, ability or numerous other nuanced factors can result but will most likely resolve themselves unless you had an underlying problem prior to AAS use.

Herbs like tribulus, yohimbe, catauba, DS Activate can help the problem, but most likely time will take care of it.

 

[motiv8er]

I wonder if it's possible for my member to have "body-envy?" He sees the rest of me swole and is jealous! JMO

 

[Pioneer]

it is possible you have just gotten a lot bigger and now when you "compare" what you used to be and now the size ration will be off. i dont think there is anyway that your donk can shrink on/after a cycle though.

 

[bioman]

If your free test levels are slightly low then it can have the indirect effect of lowering NO output which would translate to weaker pumps and erections...even though you have neough test to function normally in every other way. You could try some arginine..like diarginine malate to see if that makes a diff.

 

[DR.D]

I know what you are talking about. It has commonly been recognized for a long time, that steroid usage lends itself to penile shrinkage. It cases of true shrinkage, improper PCT's are the likely culprit. However, I think vascular changes may partially explain this phenomenon. I have observed a smaller flaccid size too (I'll omit the before and after pics in case there are women and children watching ). I am just as big when erect, my wife swears by it, but I'd swear I'm not as big as I once was sometimes. Increased peripheral blood flow to newly formed muscle tissuer may reduce vascular priority to the penis, hands, feet and extremities in general. Using a pinch of Cialis (like 1.25-2.5mg/d) or having a few glasses of wine in the evening seem to restore blood flow to the penis to previous levels though. I am still unconvinced if it is real or not, though scientifically, only small amounts of test are required to maintain normal function and size of the penis. However, something is going on with this issue that can not be fully explained as I see it.

 

[Beelzebub]

wife told me mine was bigger since starting GH......

 

[wideguy]

Here's what's real likely to be happening. Your whole body, especially legs, are getting bigger, but your wang stays the same size. SO it looks small on your unusually larger body.

 

[yeahright]

Here's what's real likely to be happening. Your whole body, especially legs, are getting bigger, but your wang stays the same size. SO it looks small on your unusually larger body.

Yep. You've changed your reference point by bulking up the rest of your body.

 

[natedogg]

wife told me mine was bigger since starting GH......

"Hey honey, I can finally see your penis through that forest you have growing down there."

"Yeah and I can finally see it over my belly!"

From 2 to 2 and a quarter. Congrats Beelze.

Yes! Score one for Nate.:box:

 

[motiv8er]

FWIW I do have to comment on my recovery. In my case I think partial PCT's and increase in area surrounding my region may have led to some superficial (Loose term here) sense of lost size. I've been off for 3 months and feel* revived. Or should I say full. NOT to pimp DS (hard not too) Activate for 2 months has been a big part of my recovery. Also going to body-envy classes with my pecker have helped. Admiting it is the first step--right?

I am feeling ready to start allllllllllll over again- but smarter!

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


Natedogg, please stop calling.

 

[DR.D]

wife told me mine was bigger since starting GH......

Take it with a grain of salt bro, she told me the same thing! (who's wife am I talking about at this point?)

 

[natedogg]

Take it with a grain of salt bro, she told me the same thing! (who's wife am I talking about at this point?)

:icon_lol:

 

[revodrew]

Have you ever seen a fat dude in a porno? Pecker looks tiny, then the skiny lanky dudes junk look like an anaconda? You get what Im saying!!

 

[Beelzebub]

why are you staring at the guys dong? :blink:

 

[Mrs. Gimpy!]

i dont think penis' shrink....

 

[P-Rouds]

why are you staring at the guys dong? :blink:

:rofl: haha, nice dude... the size thing maybe true. i'm sure you've had your test levels checked out after your cycle but... you know what, you should already know this... but read a short about what this dude said, "A lower testosterone homestasis causes feminization, such as penile shrinkage and breast enlargement, for men." this person was referring to having your testicles completely trashed after the use of steroids and requiring a testosterone injection.

but on the other hand... if you still have beazels, i would imagine your producing enough hormone where your baby maker wouldn't shrink. but hey, you should know your penis better than anyone i mean, yeah you do have the proportion argument, but if my penis gets smaller... i'm pretty much gonna know it g/l

 

[mywetnightmares]

Dude, just get some synthol.

 

[revodrew]

Beez, shut up you fing homo!!! :run:
anyways, not really staring, its just there, kind of like a bad car accident, you dont want to look, but you have to. i dont know, man, now you have me feeling like a fag!! Gotta go watch paris get banged to feel like a man agian.

 

[Beelzebub]

just make sure you're not watching the dude that's banging her.

BTW, it's not gay.....if you like it

 

[mywetnightmares]

My friend and I always say, when referring to potentially gay situations:

It's only gay if you enjoy it
It's not gay if you're a wrestler
It's not gay if you're underway
It's not gay if you're cold

Of course we're just joking.

 

[revodrew]

Of course i dont enjoy it!!! Its there, I dont know about most people, but i watch porn as more so a joke rather then excitement. If I had to watch porn to either get off or get myself arroused, you would see me in adultfriendfinder rather then here! and the old lady would be in the history books:hammer:

 

[JonesersRX7]

What's probably going on is you have less blood flow appearing smaller flacid.

www.thundersplace.org is your answer. Do some stretches and jelqing along with jelq squezes and kegels.

I started to reach the coveted 9 long 6 girth but have noticed excelent penile health.

You don't have to go for length/girth gains but since doing the begginers routine along with jelq squezes I hang alot more full now.

 

[Blownkbgt]

I started to reach the coveted 9 long 6 girth but have noticed excelent penile health.

I hang alot more full now.

looks like a quote for me......lol you perv

 

[JonesersRX7]

looks like a quote for me......lol you perv

you know it :jaw:

The point of the post was to show that the "member" needs to be exercised as well and was offering a solution... just to clarify.

 

[wideguy]

Even though this was pretty much said, I'd also like to point out that while on cycle I (and I'm sure most of you) have what could be considered a semi-wood just about all day. Hence the "hang alot fuller" idea.

 

[jomi822]

on my first 2 cycles everything was gravy in that area except by week 2 or 3 erections or interest in women was out of the question. im blaming high doses of m1t. after the 3rd cycle complete with hcg nolva and rebound xt and a bit of raloxifenen pct i thought i could do a sex marathon all day for about 2 months. then mysteriously during december i compltely lost all function and my buddy started to look like hed been out in the cold for an hour or two. ive been to 3 doctors all of which have told me my ED is psychological. im ordering up some liquid cialis as viagra has taken care of that issue for me when needed. my hope is that i dont retain this issue for the rest of my life. damn you m1t, damn you and your incredible gains

 

[DR.D]

... 3 doctors all of which have told me my ED is psychological ...

I'm usually a real nice guy, really, but I just wanna hurt people that say that. It makes me wanna say "I'm not really kicking your ass up and down right now, it's just all in your head" (lol)

Long cycles always cause issues, but if you do good, long PCT's it always comes back to you bro. I will find a compound that gives PCT like gains without killing you, if it's the last thing I ever do!

 

[OmarJackson]

here are my thoughts on this issue....

i don't think penile shrinkage has anything to do with androgens, i think that it has a lot more to do with lifting itself.

here's how. ever do a really really hard set of squats, or leg press, or even bench press, where you had to absolutly tense every single muscle in your body (especially around your core) just to stabalize the immense weight. ever noticed that you inevitably have to constrict really hard the muscles in the pelvic region, including your um.... rectum AND a certain muscle that controls how much your penis is pulled into your body. well after years and years of heavy lifting that muscle may be in a permanent state of quasi-flex....

 

[DR.D]

here are my thoughts on this issue....

i don't think penile shrinkage has anything to do with androgens, i think that it has a lot more to do with lifting itself.

here's how. ever do a really really hard set of squats, or leg press, or even bench press, where you had to absolutly tense every single muscle in your body (especially around your core) just to stabalize the immense weight. ever noticed that you inevitably have to constrict really hard the muscles in the pelvic region, including your um.... rectum AND a certain muscle that controls how much your penis is pulled into your body. well after years and years of heavy lifting that muscle may be in a permanent state of quasi-flex....

Now THAT makes some sense. I've seen similar changes in loss of upper body mobility as I've gotten bigger and especially at the peak of a cycle, it's hard to stretch and stay loose in certain areas.

Also, it's kind of a use it or lose it thing. Just like weight training itself. If you lose your libido and neglect your sex life on long cycles or with bad PCT's, you have less overall sex in the end. Less work means more atrophy. It helps to have sex at least a few times a week whether you wanna or not, just to keep your buddy alive!

 

[jomi822]

My guess is that a doctor doesnt want to touch a case of a 24 year old with ED. its better to just blame it on the old psyche and wash your hands of it i suppose. they seemed absolutely appalled that i had used viagra without a prescription. Im going to enjoy chugging down that cialis as a little personal "&($# you" to those wonderful people. anywho im thinking m1t is a poor choice for that area in general. no good for the baby maker.