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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    LOL, you just shot yourself in the foot so to speak. That is an extremely high number of drink driving accident deaths isn't it? Well gun deaths far surpass that and are on PURPOSE. You yanks really don't make for good debate do you.

    You see what alcohol can do to people in cars accidently, what about people who are drunk and have access to a gun designed to kill? Cmon mate your comments make no point.
    10,000 from drunk driving alone....add in all the other alcohol related deaths. Regardless if guns may be slightly higher, your promoting a dangerous substance as if its all cool and nothing wrong with it.

    What about drunk people who have access to a gun? So its the alcohol then, not the gun yet you love alcohol.

    It seems you live a double standard.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    I bet if every American or Australian had this in there home the crime rate would plummet
    Why, you must be one of them two-toothed- redneck-hillbilly-inbred-stupid-ignorant-gun-toteing-hicks from America! Lmao!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    I bet if every American or Australian had this in there home the crime rate would plummet
    No no no, if I had something like that I would be very tempted to shoot people like you in the face, that's why I'm so glad guns are illegal here so there is no temptation to use one.

    Oh and well in America you pretty much already have atleast 1 gun per person which includes kids and elderley, meaning most adults really have more than 1 gun each. So why on earth would you want more? Lol the solution is more guns hahahaha

    And our crime rate in Australia has significantly gone down since guns were banned here so it would be most stupid to re-introduce them.

    Your funny lol

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    No no no, if I had something like that I would be very tempted to shoot people like you in the face, that's why I'm so glad guns are illegal here so there is no temptation to use one.

    Oh and well in America you pretty much already have atleast 1 gun per person which includes kids and elderley, meaning most adults really have more than 1 gun each. So why on earth would you want more? Lol the solution is more guns hahahaha

    And our crime rate in Australia has significantly gone down since guns were banned here so it would be most stupid to re-introduce them.

    Your funny lol
    What if someone tempted to poor gasoline around your house while your sleeping and light it on fire and your whole family dies? Should we ban gasoline as well as matches? What if that person was drunk when he did it, will you agree to ban alcohol as well?
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    No no no, if I had something like that I would be very tempted to shoot people like you in the face, that's why I'm so glad guns are illegal here so there is no temptation to use one.
    So your a psychopath?...
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    10,000 from drunk driving alone....add in all the other alcohol related deaths. Regardless if guns may be slightly higher, your promoting a dangerous substance as if its all cool and nothing wrong with it.

    What about drunk people who have access to a gun? So its the alcohol then, not the gun yet you love alcohol.

    It seems you live a double standard.
    Again, alcohol isn't designed to kill, guns are. You can't ban everything in the world. It's not. Double standard at all.

    Alcohol in no way is designed or used to kill people, but the effects of alcohol obviously contribute to certain things. Guns on the other hand are designed to kill, on purpose. It's really not that hard to understand.

  7. Can we ban culinary tools since we now know they are tools of terrorism? Do you have a knife in your house? Can you please surrender to your local authorities?

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Again, alcohol isn't designed to kill, guns are. You can't ban everything in the world. It's not. Double standard at all.

    Alcohol in no way is designed or used to kill people, but the effects of alcohol obviously contribute to certain things. Guns on the other hand are designed to kill, on purpose. It's really not that hard to understand.
    Why not? Alcohol causes people to become violent terrorists and are responsible for millions of deaths around the world.

    Stop being a hypocrite.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Hahahaha this is gold-

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    :-)

  10. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post

    So your a psychopath?...
    Maybe I am :-) thats why it's a good idea to keep guns out of hands of people that could easily use them whether they are mentally ill, 'evil', psychopaths, or just in a general fit of rage from dealing with idiotic people. Guns easily accessible in the wrong hands = people shot dead

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Maybe I am :-) thats why it's a good idea to keep guns out of hands of people that could easily use them whether they are mentally ill, 'evil', psychopaths, or just in a general fit of rage from dealing with idiotic people. Guns easily accessible in the wrong hands = people shot dead
    What about mentally ill, 'evil', psychopaths who have access to beer? This sounds like a terrible mix, beer should be banned in Australia and the rest of the world. It's really not that hard to understand.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    Why, you must be one of them two-toothed- redneck-hillbilly-inbred-stupid-ignorant-gun-toteing-hicks from America! Lmao!!
    Actually good sir Ill have you know all of my incisors are intact and I received a fine education. Furthermore neither my mother or my further are of the same relation. I do however enjoy my liberties and exercise my right’s to use them. ‘Merica!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    Wow! Gotta love it when a person from another country tries to tell someone how their country "should" handle things. Love all the name calling too. Usually in a debate, that is a very good indicator of frustration and feeling a loss is eminent. I'm not going to look it up but just wonder what the statistics are about "crimes stopped by firearms" (obviously not including law enforcement) to throw in some more food for the troll. How about how many of the guns in America are used for hunting or what a ban would do to that industry or the wildlife population. Insurance companies push for longer hunting seasons on deer because of all the wrecks, injuries and deaths caused by deer running into the roads. How much more would that be if there were no hunters to control the populations of wildlife? We are an agricultural country and the wildlife flourish because of it.

    Never got a response to this.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Maybe I am :-) thats why it's a good idea to keep guns out of hands of people that could easily use them whether they are mentally ill, 'evil', psychopaths, or just in a general fit of rage from dealing with idiotic people. Guns easily accessible in the wrong hands = people shot dead
    If your crazy in America you can not legally buy a gun... You would be more likely to use a knife like that kid in Texas...
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    What about mentally ill, 'evil', psychopaths who have access to beer? This sounds like a terrible mix, beer should be banned in Australia and the rest of the world. It's really not that hard to understand.
    What could I do with beer? Splash it in your face? Lol that's heaps dangerous

  16. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post

    If your crazy in America you can not legally buy a gun... You would be more likely to use a knife like that kid in Texas...
    1. I'm not crazy and could legally buy a gun, I just go a bit psycho sometimes dealing with stupid people in the heat of the moment. So it's not hard to buy a gun.

    2. Yes I would be more likely to use a knife but I wouldn't have been able to murder 70 people watching a batman movie with a knife

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Hahahaha this is gold-

    (remove ** from www as I can't post links)

    w*w*w.youtube.com/watch?v=9pOiOhxujsE

    w*w*w.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w

    w*w*w.youtube.com/watch?v=mVuspKSjfgA
    * 13 shooting massacres in the 18 years before our gun reforms. No massacres since gun reforms in 1996.

    * Took just 12 weeks to draft, debate, and implement our gun reform legislation.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    What could I do with beer? Splash it in your face? Lol that's heaps dangerous
    Well, you can rip the beer can open and use it to slit someones throat and kill them.

    It causes people to be irresponsible murderers by getting behind the wheel of a 2,000+ pound projectile and smashing it into innocent victims including children. We lost about as many people with drunk driving in my country as we did gun related deaths.

    It also causes people be fueled to engage in domestic violence, this is a really serious issue in our country. People drink, get mad violent and kill people, their chain of thought is warped under the influence.

    Ive seen heavy acts of violence myself including gang murder at a club all fueled by alcohol.

    You live such a double standard, your really contradicting yourself.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    Well, you can rip the beer can open and use it to slit someones throat and kill them.

    It causes people to be irresponsible murderers by getting behind the wheel of a 2,000+ pound projectile and smashing it into innocent victims including children. We lost about as many people with drunk driving in my country as we did gun related deaths.

    It also causes people be fueled to engage in domestic violence, this is a really serious issue in our country. People drink, get mad violent and kill people, their chain of thought is warped under the influence.

    Ive seen heavy acts of violence myself including gang murder at a club all fueled by alcohol.

    You live such a double standard, your really contradicting yourself.
    Thanks, you just stated some valid points.

    MOST of the murders mentioned above would have been done with a gun, you take away guns you reduce the murder rate. Yes people can murder by other means, but a gun is the easiest and quickest way. You can't unrun a bullet

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Thanks, you just stated some valid points.

    MOST of the murders mentioned above would have been done with a gun, you take away guns you reduce the murder rate. Yes people can murder by other means, but a gun is the easiest and quickest way. You can't unrun a bullet
    Ok, so you blame the weapon and not the alcohol as the root of the cause.

    Ill get on the same page as you then, lets ban cars. You let people drink whatever, but everyone should loose the right to drive because you dont know who drinks or not. And besides all in all we lose 30,000-40,000 deaths every year in overall traffic accidents.

    Also, they are used as murder tools...a lady in a local city here in new york committed suicide by driving her car into the hudson river with her 3 kids making cars officially a murder tool!
    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...rbs&****8069528
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Ok, so you blame the weapon and not the alcohol as the root of the cause.

    Ill get on the same page as you then, lets ban cars. You let people drink whatever, but everyone should loose the right to drive because you dont know who drinks or not. And besides all in all we lose 30,000-40,000 deaths every year in overall traffic accidents.

    Also, they are used as murder tools...a lady in a local city here in new york committed suicide by driving her car into the hudson river with her 3 kids making cars officially a murder tool!
    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...rbs&****8069528

    Yes people can murder by other means, but a car is the easiest and quickest way. You can't unrun a car.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by lukehayd View Post
    Never got a response to this.
    Thats because it is an educated argument that is complex in nature and requires thought to counter.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post

    Ok, so you blame the weapon and not the alcohol the root of the cause.

    Ill get on the same page as you then, lets ban cars. You let people drink whatever, but everyone should loose the right to drive because you dont know who drinks or not. And besides all in all we lose 30,000-40,000 deaths every year in overall traffic accidents.

    Also, they are used as murder tools...a lady in a local city here in new york committed suicide by driving her car into the hudson river with her 3 kids making cars officially a murder tool!
    No no no I'm not dismissing the root of the cause, there is still other issues at play like mental illness which need to be worked on. But as I've said a million times, when these people with problems or who are drunk or whatever have easy access to guns that are designed to kill people, then people get killed.

    And well actually in Australia if you get caught drink driving you do lose your license.

    You keep bringing up all these useless statistics about accidental deaths which have nothing to do with guns that are designed to kill on purpose. There is no comparison.

    You sound like those ignorant people like Larry Pratt, Jesse Ventura, and the extremely ignorant Alex Jones.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    Thats because it is an educated argument that is complex in nature and requires thought to counter.
    Not at all, thats because I have made my points like this in several previous comments. Go back and read if thats not too hard.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    No no no I'm not dismissing the root of the cause, there is still other issues at play like mental illness which need to be worked on. But as I've said a million times, when these people with problems or who are drunk or whatever have easy access to guns that are designed to kill people, then people get killed.

    And well actually in Australia if you get caught drink driving you do lose your license.

    You keep bringing up all these useless statistics about accidental deaths which have nothing to do with guns that are designed to kill on purpose. There is no comparison.

    You sound like those ignorant people like Larry Pratt, Jesse Ventura, and the extremely ignorant Alex Jones.
    Why arent you calling out for the ban of alcohol then? Whats your problem? You love your alcohol so you dodge any though of its ban, you are being completely irresponsible to your society.

    They take your licesnse away? What a joke, Your country is full of 10's of thousands of irresponsible drunks.

    Obviously, although in Australia your license get taken away, you guys still drinking and killing people.

    The solution would be only to take away the car. Take away the car and take away the murder....let people continue to drink, this is in line with your philosophy.

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