* The Empire State Building shooting IS a prime example, if police can't even safely handle the situation with guns then how would a civilian have been able to do any better then 2 trained professional police. A civilian shootout COULD and would likely have been much worse than police shooting. It's really not that hard to understand.
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How so likely? You can be so sure of that.
Civilians kill and take out twice as many criminals as cops do, most of the time responsibly. We cant predict the outcome and base a law-abiding citizens right to be armed based on what ifs or rare incidents.
LMFAO, you are a real fcuking stupid dumb khunt. I actually thought your debating was getting more civilized but now you are just spewing more garbage. Your stupid comments are quite annoying.
* Mexico has strict Laws but they are not enforced at all so their Laws are useless. It's pretty much a third world country where drug cartels run the show. Poor comparison mate, this was covered earlier in the thread. You just brang yourself down several levels for such a stupid comparison.
They are enforced...its the citizens in Mexico that suffer.
Look how Drug Laws are heavily enforced here in America and what a failure that has been. Criminals will get what they want by any means.
* Lastly, your ratios are way off. Our annual TOTAL homicides are around 250 with a population of just under 25 million. Your population is a bit more than 10 times our population so an equivalent ratio would be more like 2500 TOTAL homicides. Your countrys TOTAL homicides is 16,000 with firearm homicides making up 11,000. And wtf how on earth do we have the worst crime rate? ROFL we are one of the safest countries and much safer than your country, these facts have been covered off earlier in the thread.
The number of homicides I had in Australia was some 350, not 250. We have 14 times the population of Australia. 5,000+ homicides a year. Your getting stuck on petty shyt now.
Population Australia 22.3 million
Population USA 313.9 million
Homicides in Australia provided by the Australian Government 354 here is the source
http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/0/B/6/{0B619F44-B18B-47B4-9B59-F87BA643CBAA}facts11.pdf
** Also we don't live in fear of our government becoming tyrannical, that's just paranoia at it's finest. No worries in our country mate. And if we went to war that's what we have an ARMY for which billions of dollars are spent on every year (trillions in your country). We also have close Allys including UK and USA because our country supports your country in every stupid crusade like Iraq and Afghanistan.
You've pretty much lost all credibility now ax1. Unless you can constructively debate or at least not spit out lies and rubbish then don't speak at all. I actually feel embarassed for you.
Its naive to think your goverment will never become tyrannical, its historically impossible. You sound like the Germans would react when they were warned about Hitler. Remember, Germany was a democracy, you cant depend on your people to make the right decisions either.
Your army is weak and useless. You cant depend on the UK and USA to be there for you to save yourselfs, there is no guarantee we could win a war against Russia or China and even if we did we may be too occupied to worry about your country. Allies do get taken in times of war. Losing the war is possible, you may as well come out with a fight. You should see what the Russians did the the Germans with their mass rape after they stepped foot in Germany. Australia would be seen a easy bate especially how weak your society is and how defenseless you all are.
Anyways, good luck with that.
I know countries such as China promote gun control as they know infiltrating America is like trying to jump the the blades of a lawn mower.
