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  1. As for Adam Lanza or any of the socially inept people that have become the stereo type for atrocities like this if the parents, family, or friends would have been more attentive and put some time into towards addressing their mental health issues maybe this would not have happened. But ill tell you one thing I would be far more afraid of a crazy person with a 6 round shotgun that one with a 30 round .223 those rounds were meant for coyote and varmint. Buck shot was meant for big game.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by tsugsr View Post
    One thing I've noticed about retards like the op bashing America's freedoms. I haven't seen one yet use proper grammar, spelling or put together a decent sentence. Boy, sign me up to be like him!
    As mentioned previously which u obviously can't read. This is not a spelling contest or a formal letter or an essay or whatever else requires use of proper grammar. Is it too hard for you to understand that 'u' means you? Wow U are more stupid than i thought.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    What about innocent people that get shot dead everyday? They are most definitely put out of work. What about innocent kids that are shot dead? They never get the chance to work. U would rather have gun shops employing people then lives saved?! Another example of why America is doomed. Surely these gun shop workers can find jobs elsewhere.

    Alcohol is not illegal i dont know why u mentioned that. People that use steroids and narcotics for personal use is quite easy to stay on it as it's for themselves and the penalties are minor for personal use. Guns on the other hand KILL people and any1 caught with a gun should be jailed, which is a deterrent (not for everyone). As i mentioned previously which u obviously can't read, when there are no gun shops and minimal guns on streets, black market prices for guns would rise considerably and would make it so much harder for criminals to get a hold of one. Im not saying there will be ZERO gun deaths and that criminals still won't use guns but the numbers will be reduced to such an insignificant number that it will be well worth it. And again, these changes don't happen overnight, it takes time, understand that.
    That's one hell of a 'what if' scenario.

    Once again you show your true ignorance. Notice I speak in the past tense. Now see if you remember the prohibition. Alcohol being illegal, not that long ago. And what happened? People kept getting alcohol and gangsters got rich and powerful supplying it.

    You assume prices would go up on weapons if one were to ban them and remove LEGAL sale of them. I counter with cocaine/marijuana/Meth/any drug. You can't go pick those up at the pharmacy yet so many get their hands on them all the time


    The only people who are hurt by gun control are law abiding citizens. You speak about Australia, talking about how similar we are as a country. But neglect the fact that the U.S. is bordered by two other countries, one of which has illegal items smuggled across on a daily basis; while the other is an ISLAND.

    You take guns from law abiding citizens, and you take away their home security. Criminals wouldn't give up their firearms or would just get them on the black market (and they wouldn't be all that expensive because of all the licensing fees/taxes that would be removed from the sale).

    And even if they were successful (which is one hell of a stretch in a country this size) that doesn't stop anything. What about that guy in Texas who stabbed 15 people at a college. Do we ban kitchen knives now too?

    Store owners/home owners not being allowed to have guns is not a good idea. What stops a criminal from walking in with a 2x4, knife, or bat? He still kills a defenseless family and what do we do then? Ban anything that can be used in an evil way to hurt another person? Seems like an awesome idea.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    As for Adam Lanza or any of the socially inept people that have become the stereo type for atrocities like this if the parents, family, or friends would have been more attentive and put some time into towards addressing their mental health issues maybe this would not have happened. But ill tell you one thing I would be far more afraid of a crazy person with a 6 round shotgun that one with a 30 round .223 those rounds were meant for coyote and varmint. Buck shot was meant for big game.
    U fail to understand that a lot of 'mentally ill' people, or whatever u want to call them, are very good at hiding their problems. A lot of these young kids would never want to talk about or admit they have problems which is why they hide them and it bottles up. If his mum didn't have these guns he wouldnt have got a hold of them to shoot these kids.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    HAHAHAHAHAHA! U just shot yourself in the foot with that last comment (no pun intended). U tell me to use spell check yet u can't even spell gun. Go back and read what u just wrote- "i should have the right to own a fun" so correct yourself before you correct others. Hahahaha wow you are stupid. How do u feel about that???

    BTW, i'm not writing a formal letter or essay, i write on this forum like I write text messages and shorten words and abbreviate where i want to. So don't try and sound like you are Mr Smart when you are far from it.
    Great arguing point BTW.

    I'm posting on mobile as well (which occasionally auto corrects, as I'm sure you know) and I still don't look like some HS kid who's posting his liberal teachers opinion without forming one of his own, based upon life experience and empirical data.
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  6. All of your posts are attempts to attack a person as opposed to rebutting the opinions/facts that are stated.

    Which is proof that you have no logical reason (or evidence to suggest) that anything you are saying could even be true, and are simply arguing based upon an emotional response as opposed to a logical one.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post

    That's one hell of a 'what if' scenario.

    Once again you show your true ignorance. Notice I speak in the past tense. Now are if you remember the prohibition. Alcohol being illegal, not that long ago. And what happened? People kept getting alcohol and gangsters got rich and powerful supplying it.

    You assume prices would go up on weapons if one were to ban them and remove LEGAL sale of them. I counter with cocaine/marijuana/Meth/any drug. You can't go pick those up at the pharmacy yet so many get their hands on them all the time

    The only people who are hurt by gun control are law abiding citizens. You speak about Australia, talking about how similar we are as a country. But neglect the fact that the U.S. is bordered by two other countries, one of which has illegal items smuggled across on a daily basis; while the other is an ISLAND.

    You take guns from law abiding citizens, and you take away their home security. Criminals wouldn't give up their firearms or would just get them on the black market (and they wouldn't be all that expensive because of all the licensing fees/taxes that would be removed from the sale).

    And even if they were successful (which is one hell of a stretch in a country this size) that doesn't stop anything. What about that guy in Texas who stabbed 15 people at a college. Do we ban kitchen knives now too?

    Store owners/home owners not being allowed to have guns is not a good idea. What stops a criminal from walking in with a 2x4, knife, or bat? He still kills a defenseless family and what do we do then? Ban anything that can be used in an evil way to hurt another person? Seems like an awesome idea.
    I would much rather take my chances against a knife as i'm sure many other people would as well. Would u rather someone coming at u with a knife or a gun? I can personally disarm someone with a knife or if not then i can confidently outrun them, u can't outrun a bullet. Capish?

    As a store owner i would much rather someone come in to threaten me with a knife or bat then a gun. There is a good chance they will just rob u without killing u. If both criminal and store owner had guns, someone is DEFINITELY going to end up dead, and it's just as often the store owner as it is the criminal. I would much rather be robbed then shot dead. Would u not?

    Again u comparing knifes or other weapons to guns is a pretty silly argument. I would much rather take my chances with anything other than a gun.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    U fail to understand that a lot of 'mentally ill' people, or whatever u want to call them, are very good at hiding their problems. A lot of these young kids would never want to talk about or admit they have problems which is why they hide them and it bottles up. If his mum didn't have these guns he wouldnt have got a hold of them to shoot these kids.
    No I understand perfectly that some people can hide their problems with great efficiency but I also know for a fact that these people were documented crazy. If his mom didnt have those guns, and I am going to use one of your what if scenarios, he would have probably locked the door to his moms class room and started setting kids on fire or some other atrocity. Guns are the tool because they are efficient. But they are just that, a tool. And a tool is only doing the bidding of the person wielding it. I will agree that there is solution out there somewhere that will stop all crime and untimely death but EVERYTHING that our government was proposing was a farce and would not have stopped a thing. What they were proposing was an infringement of our rights as Americans and our ability to be happy. If you can tell me how one thing that our government was proposing would have guaranteed to stop violent crime with guns I will tell you that you are right and defend what you are saying to everyone else that posts attacking your stance. However you wont. Because everything that was proposed was an overreaction and was simply done to save face. Nothing more nothing less. a I am proud that everything was shot down but ashamed it took so much of the tax payers money to do so.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    I would much rather take my chances against a knife as i'm sure many other people would as well. Would u rather someone coming at u with a knife or a gun? I can personally disarm someone with a knife or if not then i can confidently outrun them, u can't outrun a bullet. Capish?

    As a store owner i would much rather someone come in to threaten me with a knife or bat then a gun. There is a good chance they will just rob u without killing u. If both criminal and store owner had guns, someone is DEFINITELY going to end up dead, and it's just as often the store owner as it is the criminal. I would much rather be robbed then shot dead. Would u not?

    Again u comparing knifes or other weapons to guns is a pretty silly argument. I would much rather take my chances with anything other than a gun.

    That's cool, I'm glad that YOU would rather take your chances against a knife. (Your right to have an opinion, just as it is my right to own a firearm.)

    I personally would rather have a pistol on my person and would rather shoot the other guy and not have to take any chance (which is my opinion).

    Also, you're belief is that all guns should be illegal (because, as proven in the past. Making something illegal always gets it off the streets) So now people are no longer capable of going hunting (why not punish the majority because of the actions of a minority, right?) and you immediately put ranges, gun stores, and manufacturers out of business (which is a brilliant idea with a struggling economy).

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    I would much rather take my chances against a knife as i'm sure many other people would as well. Would u rather someone coming at u with a knife or a gun? I can personally disarm someone with a knife or if not then i can confidently outrun them, u can't outrun a bullet. Capish?

    As a store owner i would much rather someone come in to threaten me with a knife or bat then a gun. There is a good chance they will just rob u without killing u. If both criminal and store owner had guns, someone is DEFINITELY going to end up dead, and it's just as often the store owner as it is the criminal. I would much rather be robbed then shot dead. Would u not?

    Again u comparing knifes or other weapons to guns is a pretty silly argument. I would much rather take my chances with anything other than a gun.
    Do you even remember what you are arguing? you start a topic about how you believe that our system is messed up then you end up believing you can disarm a person wielding a knife or at least out run them. You still have not stated a single fact about why you believe that the USA is FUBAR other than that you think that Australia’s regulations on all firearms is better than ours.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
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    More proof of how ignorant u are.

    Guns are a tool designed to kill people (or animals). Again u quote your economy as more important than saving lives. I'm sure the people working in the gun industry can surely find jobs elsewhere.

    I understand u may feel comfortable with a gun, that's good for u. What i'm saying is that if an innocent civilian and a criminal are in a stand-off with a gun, someone is going to get shot dead, and its just as often the innocent person shot dead apposed to the criminal. Most people would rather not be in that situation or have to tale that chance.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    Your missing the point, prescription drugs don't kill people on purpose (although some do overdose on purpose). Guns are used as a weapon to kill people, on purpose. You can't control accidental deaths but u can stop things intended to kill someone.
    Actually there are numerous drugs that the manufactures knew would kill people with certain conditions and the pharmaceuticals intentionally let's out this info until class action suits pop up

  13. OP if you don't like America and the freedoms MEN like me have protected WITH GUNS get out. Go to Mexico, Canada, or Australia where their illegal. Go somewhere in Europe. Put a good point on the table if your going to argue. Every statement you've made is skewed statistics and far fetched conjecture and what if statements. Taking guns away from "gun toting rednecks" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Its absurd actually. It's like taking cars knives and other dangerous items away because a few ass holes don't know how to use them. It's like taking a spoon away because it makes people fat. Its like putting caution contents hot on a cup of coffee because some dumb ass burned themselves on it. For christ sake its a HOT drink did they expect frost bite jn the event if pouring it in their lap? You're turning guns into scapegoats. Their an inanimate object they're not at fault it's the user.

    As I said if you don't like American freedoms feel free to leave. If you're going to argue arm your self with facts. Not skewed Obama stats like 40% of guns are bought with out background checks or 90% of Americans wanted this weeks bill to pass. I've purchased and sold over 20 firearms in this past 10 years. Not once was I not background checked in the multiple states ice resided in. In fact when I sold a few it was done through a federally licensed dealer. Why? I'm a responsible law abiding citizen. Why should I lose my rights because a few ass holes ruined things for me and every other average law abiding citizen.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    It can't even pass a Law extending background checks to ALL people looking to purchase a gun.

    Wtf is wrong with USA, it's bad enough the streets are filled with guns, now a simple Law making it harder for criminals to attain guns can't even be passed.

    A corrupt and doomed Country...
    If you think that the Toomey-Manchin bill is only about "background checks" then you are a sheep like the rest of the clueless flock. Try reading it....there is serious liberty infringement in there....idiot.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    More proof of how ignorant u are.

    Guns are a tool designed to kill people (or animals). Again u quote your economy as more important than saving lives. I'm sure the people working in the gun industry can surely find jobs elsewhere.

    I understand u may feel comfortable with a gun, that's good for u. What i'm saying is that if an innocent civilian and a criminal are in a stand-off with a gun, someone is going to get shot dead, and its just as often the innocent person shot dead apposed to the criminal. Most people would rather not be in that situation or have to tale that chance.
    Ill take that as a no you dont remember what your arguing or you have lost all faith in your initial statement and have been reduced to petty name calling and completely off topic banter. I am going to chalk this one up as a win for my self today thank you for helping me pass the time today at work.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    As I said if you don't like American freedoms feel free to leave. If you're going to argue arm your self with facts. Not skewed Obama stats like 40% of guns are bought with out background checks or 90% of Americans wanted this weeks bill to pass. I've purchased and sold over 20 firearms in this past 10 years. Not once was I not background checked in the multiple states ice resided in. In fact when I sold a few it was done through a federally licensed dealer. Why? I'm a responsible law abiding citizen. Why should I lose my rights because a few ass holes ruined things for me and every other average law abiding citizen.
    Amen brother!!!!
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  17. Ok you wanted the facts, here they are, and yes I am going to use Australia as the example because the Laws were similar to Amercia before their reforms were brought in from 1996.

    Because I can’t post links yet, instead of the *** insert www
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

    *Key Statistics- Australia:

    - Total Gun Deaths 1996: 516
    - Total Gun Deaths 2010: 236, less than half of the gun deaths of 1996. 2012 which isn’t quoted in the statistics were less than 200 gun deaths. In the 1980’s the number’s were up close to 700.
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 1996: 2.82
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 2010: 1.06 (number of deaths have gone down while the population has considerably gone up). One of the lowest rates in the world.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 15 (one of the lowest rates in the world)

    *Key Statistics- USA

    - Total Gun Deaths 1999: 28,874
    - Total Gun Deaths 2011: 32,163
    - Rate of Gun Deaths 2011: 10.3 per 100,000 people. One of the worst/highest rates in the world. 10 times more likely to be shot dead by a Gun than in Australia.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 88.8 (USA is ranked the highest in the world, all them guns don’t seem to be doing you much good is it?)

    So there is your evidence, real world facts and statistics of 1) how gun reform works and 2) how atrocious Americas statistics are. Yes Australia’s actual numbers are much lower that’s because of the difference in population. I would much rather live in a country with less than 200 Gun deaths per year with a population of almost 25 million, and again most of the deaths there are bikie/gang/drug related so it's just the scum killing eachother. So, I might just book the next flight after all.

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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Ok you wanted the facts, here they are, and yes I am going to use Australia as the example because the Laws were similar to Amercia before their reforms were brought in from 1996.

    Because I canít post links yet, instead of the *** insert www
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

    *Key Statistics- Australia:

    - Total Gun Deaths 1996: 516
    - Total Gun Deaths 2010: 236, less than half of the gun deaths of 1996. 2012 which isnít quoted in the statistics were less than 200 gun deaths. In the 1980ís the numberís were up close to 700.
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 1996: 2.82
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 2010: 1.06 (number of deaths have gone down while the population has considerably gone up). One of the lowest rates in the world.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 15 (one of the lowest rates in the world)

    *Key Statistics- USA

    - Total Gun Deaths 1999: 28,874
    - Total Gun Deaths 2011: 32,163
    - Rate of Gun Deaths 2011: 10.3 per 100,000 people. One of the worst/highest rates in the world. 10 times more likely to be shot dead by a Gun than in Australia.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 88.8 (USA is ranked the highest in the world, all them guns donít seem to be doing you much good is it?)

    So there is your evidence, real world facts and statistics of 1) how gun reform works and 2) how atrocious Americas statistics are. Yes Australiaís actual numbers are much lower thatís because of the difference in population. I would much rather live in a country with less than 200 Gun deaths per year with a population of almost 25 million, and again most of the deaths there are bikie/gang/drug related so it's just the scum killing eachother. So, I might just book the next flight after all.
    So I am going to chalk this one up as a win for myself today, thank you for helping me pass the time at work. Amen Brother!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    Ok you wanted the facts, here they are, and yes I am going to use Australia as the example because the Laws were similar to Amercia before their reforms were brought in from 1996.

    Because I can't post links yet, instead of the *** insert www
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/australia
    ***.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

    *Key Statistics- Australia:

    - Total Gun Deaths 1996: 516
    - Total Gun Deaths 2010: 236, less than half of the gun deaths of 1996. 2012 which isn't quoted in the statistics were less than 200 gun deaths. In the 1980's the number's were up close to 700.
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 1996: 2.82
    - Rate of Gun deaths per 100,000 People 2010: 1.06 (number of deaths have gone down while the population has considerably gone up). One of the lowest rates in the world.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 15 (one of the lowest rates in the world)

    *Key Statistics- USA

    - Total Gun Deaths 1999: 28,874
    - Total Gun Deaths 2011: 32,163
    - Rate of Gun Deaths 2011: 10.3 per 100,000 people. One of the worst/highest rates in the world. 10 times more likely to be shot dead by a Gun than in Australia.
    - Rate of Firearm possession per 100 people: 88.8 (USA is ranked the highest in the world, all them guns don't seem to be doing you much good is it?)

    So there is your evidence, real world facts and statistics of 1) how gun reform works and 2) how atrocious Americas statistics are. Yes Australia's actual numbers are much lower that's because of the difference in population. I would much rather live in a country with less than 200 Gun deaths per year with a population of almost 25 million, and again most of the deaths there are bikie/gang/drug related so it's just the scum killing eachother. So, I might just book the next flight after all.
    Do it. Book your flight. Get out. Seriously if all you tree huggers don't like American laws and rights get out.

    You do understand part of why we remain fairly untouched by other countries and are randomly attacked by guerrillas is because how many guns we have. We are the most hated country in the world. Most of the world would see us perish but they will not attack us due to simple statistics like that. Go ahead and get me some stats for Mexican gun crimes. Even Canadian. Guns are illegal there but there's murders. Australia is one example and they are isolated on an island. Import and trade make it a bit more difficult.

    As I said guns don't kill people. People kill people. Let Darwinism weed out the weak that can't think for themselves much like you. Or better eat a few painkillers too many since they shouldn't become illegal. Oh wait they're controlled like guns are. Hmmm. See my point.

    Seriously if the crazy f*cks that kill people in schools don't have guns they'll find another way. For Christ sake columbine Colorado most casualties were not created by firearms, it was IEDs. Or Texas with a box cutter. Guns aren't the problem PEOPLE ARE THE PROBLEM.
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  21. Let me add I don't trust your stats. It's like obama claiming 40% and 90%. They're mostly made up numbers and hopes and dreams of some people. So present real evidence not numbers that are most likely skewed.
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  22. I heard that promoting liberal ideals makes your wee wee larger... O.o

    Seems like lots of compensation by a few here

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    - Total Gun Deaths 1996: 516
    - Total Gun Deaths 2010: 236, less than half of the gun deaths of 1996. 2012 which isn’t quoted in the statistics were less than 200 gun deaths. In the 1980’s the number’s were up close to 700.
    .
    The fact I want to focus on is the gun deaths fact. So you are arguing that by removing guns they reduced the gun deaths by half
    color me not impressed shouldn’t that fact read ELIMINATED COMPLETELY or by at least 90%. Arguing that is only bikers and “bad guys” is proving the point that only bad guys will have the means to get guns. Australia already had a low homicide rate how bout the fact the RAPE, BURGLERY, and VIOLENT CRIME in general increased. Why do you ask? Because the criminals KNEW THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE HAD NOTHING TO DEFENT THEM SELVES WITH! And why did they have nothing to defend them selves with? Because their GOVERNMENT TOOK AWAY THEIR MEANS TO! Are you this naive or are you just ignorant. With your arguments I am going to lean towards the latter!
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by superbeast668 View Post
    Let me add I don't trust your stats. It's like obama claiming 40% and 90%. They're mostly made up numbers and hopes and dreams of some people. So present real evidence not numbers that are most likely skewed.
    Well you are a fool. The facts and figures from this website are from the Federal Bureau of Statistics of each country they have figures for. Real world facts from the governments of each country. So you absolutely cannot say to present real evidence when I just did that exactly. If you wish to prove otherwise then you need to put up your own evidence. Superbeast? More like Superstupid

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    Well you are a fool. The facts and figures from this website are from the Federal Bureau of Statistics of each country they have figures for. Real world facts from the governments of each country. So you absolutely cannot say to present real evidence when I just did that exactly. If you wish to prove otherwise then you need to put up your own evidence. Superbeast? More like Superstupid
    Again with the name calling. The leader of our federal government claims 90% of Americans wanted that bill to pass. That's a lie. Like it or not politics and politicians aren't trust worthy.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post
    So I am going to chalk this one up as a win for myself today, thank you for helping me pass the time at work. Amen Brother!
    You cant just copy what I said and think you win, thats like posting numbers from an anti gun site and thinking that it is unbiased fact. But wait thats what you did. Again I am going to ask how the country I live in is broken because they defended the rights of the people? Do you have a single original idea to support your statement?
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    The fact I want to focus on is the gun deaths fact. So you are arguing that by removing guns they reduced the gun deaths by half
    color me not impressed shouldnít that fact read ELIMINATED COMPLETELY or by at least 90%. Arguing that is only bikers and ďbad guysĒ is proving the point that only bad guys will have the means to get guns. Australia already had a low homicide rate how bout the fact the RAPE, BURGLERY, and VIOLENT CRIME in general increased. Why do you ask? Because the criminals KNEW THAT THE GOOD PEOPLE HAD NOTHING TO DEFENT THEM SELVES WITH! And why did they have nothing to defend them selves with? Because their GOVERNMENT TOOK AWAY THEIR MEANS TO! Are you this naive or are you just ignorant. With your arguments I am going to lean towards the latter!

    Where is your evidence that rape, burglery and violent crime in general increased? Just because you said so doesn't mean so. Facts mate, facts. Even 'bad' guys find it very difficult to attain guns, my point was that a lot of those 200 odd gun deaths are scum anyway. The numbers are so insignificant it is nothing to worry about at all. Australia has a lot of mentally ill and crazy people as well, have you been to some parts of Sydney? Because they can't easily access guns they aren't easily killing people at all, and don't often attempt to. Guns make things soooo much easier and tempting to do things they wouldn't do if they didn't have a gun. And the figure is probably closer to being reduced to by about 75% as the figures are less than half yet the population has increased significantly. Guns deaths will never be eliminated, but wouldn't you want to take measures that significantly reduce the numbers of gun deaths to the point where you don't need to worry about being shot or needing to protect yourself? If you disagree with that then I think you are one of those mentally ill people that need help.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by mustang0341 View Post

    If you think that the Toomey-Manchin bill is only about "background checks" then you are a sheep like the rest of the clueless flock. Try reading it....there is serious liberty infringement in there....idiot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Glawry View Post

    So I am going to chalk this one up as a win for myself today, thank you for helping me pass the time at work. Amen Brother!
    No response for me....so i am going to chalk it up as a win. Amen Brother! Actually scratch that, you are NO brother of mine.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by McCrew530 View Post
    You cant just copy what I said and think you win, thats like posting numbers from an anti gun site and thinking that it is unbiased fact. But wait thats what you did. Again I am going to ask how the country I live in is broken because they defended the rights of the people? Do you have a single original idea to support your statement?

    I have already proposed the ideas back in one of my first posts on this thread, go back and read I'm not typing up another short story.

    Answer me this, how is having the highest gun ownership rate in the world treating you?

    88.8 per 100? That pretty much means that almost every single person in your America has a gun? (if you factor out the number of children in your country the figure is even more alarming). What's your thoughts on this? That means that if almost every single person owns a gun including the mass amounts of 'mentally ill' people, that is a recipe for disaster.
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