1. Originally Posted by chedapalooza
Take the 25% of the total mg on the label
(I THINK) and that's what u get

So:

1280 mg blend x .25%= 320mg UA per 4 caps= 80mg UA per cap.. I could be completely wrong though so do not quote me. I know the math is right, but the formula could just be made up lol
I thinks it's just 25% extract like ursobolic, but idk that was just my first thought

2. Originally Posted by chedapalooza
Take the 25% of the total mg on the label
(I THINK) and that's what u get

So:

1280 mg blend x .25%= 320mg UA per 4 caps= 80mg UA per cap.. I could be completely wrong though so do not quote me. I know the math is right, but the formula could just be made up lol
See, that would make sense if it was 1280mg of say Rosemary. They'd then get 320mg of UA from that being its 25%. However, there can't be 1280mg of Rosemary (or wherever FRL is extracting the UA form) being there is also cyclodextrin, piperine, and forskolin.

Originally Posted by dlucks
I thinks it's just 25% extract like ursobolic, but idk that was just my first thought
^Exactly.
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3. No u guys r prob right.. Bc 450 at 9/day with ursobolic is the minimum.. I would be skeptical if only getting 320 per 4 caps..

Hopefully we can get a # at some point

4. Originally Posted by chedapalooza
No u guys r prob right.. Bc 450 at 9/day with ursobolic is the minimum.. I would be skeptical if only getting 320 per 4 caps..

Hopefully we can get a # at some point
lol this is why I asked because AT MOST you'd get 320mg per 4 caps (this is if ALL 1280mg was Rosemary, but it's not) so if the label is 100% correct, you're actually getting less than 320mg per 4 caps.

Hopefully, the 1280mg does not take into consideration the mg of product the UA is extracted from. This is what I'm figuring at least.

5. At the recommended dosage it is already a better deal than ursobolic. Well, depending on the actual amount of ursolic acid in each cap. Let me know what e-tailers are selling through PM please.
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6. good luck trying to mega dose this without gettting the sh!ts from the forskolin

7. Originally Posted by baldymcgee
good luck trying to mega dose this without gettting the sh!ts from the forskolin
I love sh!tting. It's my favorite past time

8. Wasn't ursolic acid super light? weight wise i mean and that was why so many pills with Ursobolic?

9. Originally Posted by AutoKal47
Wasn't ursolic acid super light? weight wise i mean and that was why so many pills with Ursobolic?
Yes, they said they couldn't get enough into the capsules to have a normal amount of capsules as a serving.

10. Originally Posted by bdcc
Yes, they said they couldn't get enough into the capsules to have a normal amount of capsules as a serving.
Ja, I remember reading it, maybe caps on this one are bigger?

11. They are the size of ostrich eggs.

On a serious note, there were issues about getting the capsule serving size down so the question is have FRL solved the problem PA had in this respect. I would have thought it the cyclodextrin complex was possible that PA would have come out with it himself.

12. not as likely honestly... he doesnt have it in any of his other products and you dont typically see him come out with stuff thats like that at all...

FRL or AMS on the other hand uses Cyclo in most their line up, so it makes sense to them to just stick it on there and give it a go....

13. While he hasn't used cyclo recently, PA was one that brought it to market in the supplement industry. He know a GREAT deal about their usage.

14. 89 posts since '02 and this is what you choose to post on??? Lol...

not being mean... just funny to me.

What did PA do that had Cyclodextrin in it? maybe you could refresh my memory?

15. Cyclo-diol
Nor cyclodiol

16. You guys are making my Friday..some funny chit.. speaking of

17. Originally Posted by TheBGRigatoni
You guys are making my Friday..some funny chit.. speaking of
We love to contemplate.

Still on the fence about the dose and delivery on this product. Can't press order button just yet lol.

18. Originally Posted by mattrag
We love to contemplate.

Still on the fence about the dose and delivery on this product. Can't press order button just yet lol.
im sure Royd will jump in soon with q/a

19. 4ad products??? thats goin back!!! in fact thats goin back to square one for PA!

Im sure he used it then when he was passionate about increasing efficacy of hormones but having not used it since and having the ability to sell people 3 bottles of Ursobolic a month off his name associated with bringing another new thing to the market I think makes him not ignorant but a businessman... and a smart one at that...

I still think the possibility is it didnt occur to him in this situation or just didnt feel the need to bother to sell more BUT it DID occur to FRL to do such a thing given their ties to AMS and basically the whole AMS line being Cyclo products with the few powder exceptions...

20. Originally Posted by TheBGRigatoni
im sure Royd will jump in soon with q/a
I'll be waiting for him as I wanted to run some ursobolic or something to help my cholesterol levels after mdrol smashes them.

21. Originally Posted by mattrag
I'll be waiting for him as I wanted to run some ursobolic or something to help my cholesterol levels after mdrol smashes them.
you got it mang

22. Hey guys sorry for the delays in replies. We had all sorts of issues come up and we needed to fix them.

Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.

We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh

So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.

However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.

FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.

23. Originally Posted by mattrag
I'll be waiting for him as I wanted to run some ursobolic or something to help my cholesterol levels after mdrol smashes them.
I would actually run a resveratrol based product for cholesterol instead of UA. I think it would be more effective overall. Resv is underrated in this area.

24. Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd
Hey guys sorry for the delays in replies. We had all sorts of issues come up and we needed to fix them.

Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.

We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh

So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.

However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.

FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.
Thanks Royd..and yes sorry everybody as you can see we have been something busy with FRL and the buzz about our product line has been OUTSTANDING!!!!! but we love our fan base gang (no homo) But, Royd and I will keep everybody posted on ETA

25. I went ahead and purchased two bottles. I've heard good things about FRL as a company so I figured the gamble is worth it. I have 1.5 bottles of ursobolic left that I'll be finishing up before I switch over to try Ursol-XT, though. I started out with 4 bottles of ursobolic and have been running at 9/day mostly (I've ran a few cheat days at 12/day). I know it's purely anecdotal (however, most customer reviews are), but I'm visibly leaner and weight hasn't fluctuated more than a pound. I've also noticed some appetite suppression as well. I figure, if anything, Ursol-XT will be sufficient enough to produce results regardless of whether the cyclodextrin truly helps or not.

If the dose of UA per 4 caps turns out to be too low for my tastes, I'll trying adding 1-2 caps of ursobolic with it.

Edit: I see Royds post claims exactly what I was figuring. PA had said in another thread that the cyclo had to be complexed. Like I said, no big deal. I'm probably going to just switch back and forth between EPharm and FRL if Ursol-XT checks out. I don't understand why some people on this board have an undying loyalty to a company or make it a mission to bash anything that comes out of someone's mouth (no names, they know who they are).

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