NWA kicking it old school + new school together with 1-t thp ether + Mega-TRN

[EasyEJL]

NWA is Nerd With Attitude btw.

I've hemmed + hawwed and been wishy washy as heck. I've gone through cycle idea after cycle idea, and had a hard time deciding what to do. I've got a little bit of everything here, and in the end decided that this would make a nice first cycle combo. I found some 1-t thp ether caps (not the ethergels) at a ridiculously low price which is probably the only way they are worth taking as dosage was low at 110mg/cap, and you more or less need at least 300-400mg a day to get effect. I would have run 4ad with it, but with my wife pregnant its way too risky. But Dermacrine regular is far less so, as its natural based products, and I can apply in morning after gym, have no contact with family till evening, and shower inbetween. I'll be applying it on tops of feet and chest, so I can just keep the socks and t-shirts separate, and wash them myself in high temp water with bleach to make sure they are ok.

Dosing is as follows

wk 1&2 1-t @ 440mg/day
wk 3-as long as the dermacrine lasts 1-t 440mg, dermacrine 4 pumps

Edit : For a number of reasons, i've decided to not go with dermacrine FOR NOW (I will use it sometime in the not too distant future) and will still use Dermacrine Sustain for PCT. Instead I'll be using Mega-TRN as a pre-workout pulse, starting with 2 caps preworkout. I will not be dosing the mega-trn on cardio days.

depending on progress and how I feel, I may go to 660mg/day.

As support supps i'm going fairly simple - multivitamin, perhaps cissus if I experience joint issues, banaba before carb meals, DCP + extra TTA, sesamin with 7-oxo dhea, and 45g of fish oil a day. i may try opening the 1-t caps into the fish oil and see how it dissolves as that may help it make thru first pass of stomach + liver better (as that was the design intent on the ethergels). if not, i'll at least take the caps at the same time as the oil. I may use Adrenaline or caffeine as a preworkout stim, I also will likely use poseidon. If lethargy gets noticeable in the first 2 weeks, I may take separate dhea to try and help with that.

I'll be shooting for around a 40 protein/40 fat/20 carb ratio and around 2600 cal a day. The carbs will include NO simple carbs, and likely revolve mostly around some whole grain products, quinioa, brown rice and green veggies. Some fats will come from the food items, but for cooking I use healthy fats (coconut, grapeseed + olive).

Goal for this cycle is to drop a few scale pounds while adding a few pounds of lbm. If I can get down to 190 on the scale (a 9lb loss) and gain 5lbs of LBM, i'd be ecstatic.

Starting stats
Weight 199
Chest 44.25
Shoulders 49
L Bicep 15
R Bicep 15
L forearm 11.25
R forearm 11.25
L calf 15
R calf 15.5
waist where I wear pants - 37
@ belly button 38.75

I've taken blood tests for testosterone, E2, FSH and LH, and will post when I get the results. I also will be using Dermacrine Sustain SOLO for post cycle therapy (may add creatine + beta alanine, but no other SERM, AI or test booster) and will take blood tests again at the end of post cycle therapy to see where I land.


The action starts tomorrow!

[thewilman]

First!

[bitterplacebo]

First!

I didn't know you were a 'first' poster.

[bitterplacebo]

Sounds like a sound plan. I have some criticism/suggestions.

depending on progress and how I feel, I may go to 660mg/day.

Definitely keep that in mind.

Goal for this cycle is to drop a few scale pounds while adding a few pounds of lbm. If I can get down to 190 on the scale (a 9lb loss) and gain 5lbs of LBM, i'd be ecstatic.

I think the 9lb loss is reasonable, but 5lb gain may be a tough goal with that caloric intake. You're starting at a pretty big deficit for a 200lb, natural male. So with the fact that you're "enhanced," you may want to start at a higher, 3000 calories and gradually lower it down to 2600 or less. This way you might see the gain of a couple pounds LBM in the first two weeks, but in the later weeks you would be in a deficit where you will see most weight loss come from fat.

The action starts tomorrow!

Exciting, I'm interested to see the results especially since you'll have blood tests.

What's your cardio/training schedule like?

[EasyEJL]

Sounds like a sound plan. I have some criticism/suggestions.


I think the 9lb loss is reasonable, but 5lb gain may be a tough goal with that caloric intake. You're starting at a pretty big deficit for a 200lb, natural male. So with the fact that you're "enhanced," you may want to start at a higher, 3000 calories and gradually lower it down to 2600 or less. This way you might see the gain of a couple pounds LBM in the first two weeks, but in the later weeks you would be in a deficit where you will see most weight loss come from fat.

True, thats a nice idea. actually, perhaps makes even more sense to do a pyramid type, a little lower the first couple weeks to wait for it to be fully active, then go higher for 4 weeks while its at its peak, and taper calories back down some at the end. I'm going to think about it

Exciting, I'm interested to see the results especially since you'll have blood tests.

What's your cardio/training schedule like?

Cant believe I left it out!

Its a modified SAIS, modified just for timing to clip it to 5 days.

Day 1
Bench press (free weights, barbell) 3 sets 6 reps
Incline press (free weights, barbell) 2 sets 10 reps
Vertical bench press (machine) 1 set 20 reps
Barbell curls (shoulder wide grip) 3 sets 6 reps
Dumbbell curls (seated) 2 sets 10 reps
EZ-barbell curls (narrow grip) 1 set 20 reps
Squats (free weights, barbell) 3 sets 6 reps
Leg press (machine) 2 sets 10 reps
Hack squats (machine) 1 set 20 reps

Day 2
Front latpulldown (machine, shoulder wide grip) 3 sets 6 reps
Seated cable rows (machine, narrow grip) 2 sets 10 reps
Dumbbell rows (one arm at a time) 1 set 20 reps
Standing calf raises (machine) 3 sets 6 reps
Seated calf raises (machine) 2 sets 10 reps
Bend-over calf raises (machine) 1 set 20 reps
Leg lifts 1 set 15 reps
roman chair crunches 1 set 15 reps
side bends 1 set 15 reps

Day 3
Behind the neck press (free weights, barbell) 3 sets 6 reps
Standing upright rows (free weights, EZ-barbell) 2 sets 10 reps
overhead press (machine) 1 set 20 reps
Lying triceps press (free weights, EZ-barbell) 3 sets 6 reps
Overhead triceps press (free weights, EZ-barbell) 2 sets 10 reps
Triceps pushdown (machine, cable) 1 set 20 reps
Leg lifts 1 set 15 reps
roman chair crunches 1 set 15 reps
side bends 1 set 15 reps


Day 4+5
40 min cardio 10 minutes low intensity warmup, 20 min HIIT, 10 minutes cooldown



If recovery is going really well, I may clip it to a 4 day rotation. Not sure if I can handle it.

Also on the dosing, there is a SLIGHT chance I may loose my mind partway thru the cycle, and use mega-trn as a preworkout pulse.

[thewilman]

I didn't know you were a 'first' poster.

I am just showin' a little love to my FL brother! PLUS I'VE NEVER BEEN FIRST BEFORE

[thewilman]

I think the 9lb loss is reasonable, but 5lb gain may be a tough goal with that caloric intake. You're starting at a pretty big deficit for a 200lb, natural male. So with the fact that you're "enhanced," you may want to start at a higher, 3000 calories and gradually lower it down to 2600 or less. This way you might see the gain of a couple pounds LBM in the first two weeks, but in the later weeks you would be in a deficit where you will see most weight loss come from fat.

Good suggestion

[thewilman]

E, you are lifting 3 days in a row, then cardio for 2 days, then off 2 days?

[bitterplacebo]

I would put the bicep exercises along with the stuff on day 3.
Then I would swap day 3 and 4.

[SupFatHead]

Good luck on your cycle. This will be pretty interesting to see how effective the 1-T gels are as I dont think I\'ve seen many logs on them (even in the past when they were available).

[EasyEJL]

E, you are lifting 3 days in a row, then cardio for 2 days, then off 2 days?

No, no off days, thats part of the fun. This is all open and subject to change. I'm hoping that the 1-t will help with muscular recovery enough that it doesn't bother me. in the past, the cardio days have felt like days off

[EasyEJL]

I would put the bicep exercises along with the stuff on day 3.
Then I would swap day 3 and 4.

I can definitely see swapping 3 + 4, but i've gotten to liking doing biceps separately from triceps. I can still (barely) manage to wash my hair both days. The only real differences between this and "standard" SAIS is that the squats are normally on their own day, I switched order of what I have as day 2 and 3, and its a 7 day rotation (with a day off after squats, and 2 days off after their day 4.

Also, since its been 3 weeks so far that i've been doing this, I may do some individual exercise swapping over the span of the cycle, once i'm past week 5 (8 weeks on SAIS). For instance, I may go to dumbbell incline press for the 3 of 6 and move flat bb to the 2 of 10, etc. Just a little bit like that to shake it up.

[king1033]

subed

[ozarkaBRAND]

good luck Easy! Subbed fo' sho'!

[Botch]

NWA is Nerd With Attitude btw.

Dosing is as follows

wk 1&2 1-t @ 440mg/day
wk 4-as long as the dermacrine lasts 1-t 440mg, dermacrine 4 pumps

I'm confused, are you starting the dermacrine on week 4?

[EasyEJL]

I'm confused, are you starting the dermacrine on week 4?

err 3, i'm an idiot and can't type. A few reasons for that. one is that since this is first cycle with 1-t, I figure 2 weeks to assess feel + sides before starting another compound is a good idea. Second, even though i've already bought it, i'm still a little wishy washy about using it (my wife is pregnant right now) so 2 weeks gives me the chance to "pretend" with how i'm going to deal with clothes that get contaminated by it. And last, I didn't want to buy 2 bottles of dermacrine, but did want the cycle to go more than a month

[pistonpump]

a first timer. sweet cherry pop!

what do you got for PCT?

[EasyEJL]

Dermacrine sustain. I have other supplies if necessary, but since i'm testing testosterone + other hormones before + after I should be able to be sure whether sustain returns me to baseline or not. If it doesn't, i'll kick in plan b

[EasyEJL]

I may also during post cycle therapy depending on timing and details use that new Hemadraulix, its AA licensed from molecular nutrition plus pump agents Axis Labs® Introduces HemodrauliX™ . I'll also likely be taking igf-2, and starting back on creatine + beta alanine

[pistonpump]

1test can causes significant shutdown...

what is plan b?