Halodrol 50, 50mg ED
- 02-17-2006, 05:29 PM
Halodrol 50, 50mg ED
Day one rediculous pump only hours after first dose, may be placebo, still good sign. Slight feeling of out of self, or disoriented. Not paying attention while driving and starring off into nothing, feels like abit of a buzz. Interesting, diet in check as of day one with ratio of 35p 40c 15f or 40p 45c 15f, not too worried. shooting for 300g of protien min, 350 carbs min ED. I am 6'3" 217 with 8 years lifting. Past cycles included M1Tx2 M1T-4AD, methyldien, M1P-masterdrol. I am 23 and will be 24 soon.
daily supps EFA's, BCAA's, multi, milk thistle, glucosamine chondrointin, celery seed.
Pct Clomid, rebound by AE, activate by AE, retain by AE, fenugreek.
I plan to ramp down with clomid, ramp up with rebound, and start my activate later so it runs past rebound and clomid. fenugreek ramping up. Usual dosage, open for ideas.
My goals are to lose 2% B.F, and will check today where i am currently at. Gain 10 pounds LBM. ADD 1 inch to calves thighs and lose 1 inch from waist.
Measurements to follow B.F percentage.
4 week halodrol, 4 week PCT
clomid day 1 - 250 mg, day 2 - 200mg, week 1 - 150, week 2 - 100, week 3 - 75mg, rebound 25/50/50/75. fenugreek 3/4/5/6 Activate - not 100% yet any advice.
this PCT is advised by a AM friend but may be tweaked.
Split - chest, abs
I usually do cardio daily but for brief periods so by adding a cardio/fat burn day i should notice some effect.
- 02-17-2006, 05:38 PM
Im goona go with the RD and do 4/4/4/4 starting a week into PCT with the activate.
- 02-20-2006, 12:39 PM
meal 1 quesadilla, salad
meal 2 whole wheat pasta, hamburger, tomato basil sauce, cheese
meal 3 chicken breast, baby spinach, whole wheat wrap, pickles, cheese
meal 4 salmon, rice
meal 5 Protein shake
Meal 6 cottage cheese, whole wheat bagel, cheese, turkey breast.
Seated incline dunbell curl
35x12, 40x10, 45x10
PReacher hammer curl
35x12, 40x10, 45x8
Seated one arm french press
25x12, 35x10, 45x8
One hand cable press down (palms facing body)
40x12, 50x10, 60x10, 70x 8
Nothing special, just the most insane arm pump ive had in a long time. i wouldnt go away so people at work were like nice guns.
02-20-2006, 12:45 PM
Meal 1 lowfat muffin, banana, yogurt and berries, milk
Meal 2 Whole wheat wrap, cheese pickles, chicken breast, baby spinach
Meal 3 Protein shake
Meal 4 Salmon, rice
Meal 5 protein shake
meal 6 whole wheat wrap, same as above
meal 7 Whole wheat bagel, banana, turkey
Smith squats 225x12, 275x10 275x 10
smith front squats 185x10, 185x8
quad ext 140x12, 160x10, 180x10
lying squat 215x10, 245x10, 260x10
Really good pumps!!
02-20-2006, 12:52 PM
02-20-2006, 01:41 PM
Meal 1 protein, banana, yougurt, milk
Meal 2 3 eggs, raisin bagel, cottage chesse,
Meal 3 protein shake
meal 4 whole wheat wrap, chicken breast, baby spinach, pickles
meal 5 steak, pasta, veggies
meal 6 steak , pasta, 1/2 garlick toast
Meal 7 cottage cheese, cereal, milk
Back and shoulders
Upright row 135x12, 155x10, 175x10
Arnold shoulder dumbell press 40x12, 50x10, 60x10, 70x8
Machine upright row 180x12, 230x10, 280x8
Lying side laterals on incline bench 10x10 super set rotor flye x10, 15x10 superset rotor flye x10
bent over flyes 10x10, 15x10
One arm dumbell row 80x10, 90x10
One arm machine row 60x12, 45x10 superset 30x10
Still awesome pumps, great workouts, nowhere near personal best but getting better.
Started superpump 250 by gaspari, to increase nutrient delivery and to help keep joints safe by keeping great pumps.
02-20-2006, 01:47 PM
Meal 1 chicken breast, spinach tomato sauce, zuchini, brocolli
Meal 2 steak, baked potato, 1/2 garlic bread
meal 3 protein, cottage cheese
meal 4 steak rice, spinach salad, red pepper
meal 5 steak, rice, banana
2 hour rugby practice, sprints, endurance training. lots of running.
only made 5 meals because i was only awake 12 hours, went to bed late sat night. slept till 130.
TO date no noticable sides. I have been making efforts not to overtrain but after 5 workout days in a row i may be losing the battle lol.
02-20-2006, 01:51 PM
I changed my split it is now
due to the fact i have added help i will add rest days as needed.
02-20-2006, 06:08 PM
how are you structuring your rest days??
02-20-2006, 06:18 PM
rest days wil prolly follow my heavy days like say
bis tris....... I play rugby once a week and right now i am going to add rest days as needed. We'll see how this works if i get catabolic ill make changes but ive recently lowered my workout volume by as much as 30%, I can maintain my mass with 3 or 4 ,meals a day. If im not sore ill be more inclined to workout althought this isnt the best method of structuring.lol
02-22-2006, 11:41 AM
day 5 rest
Meal 1 protein, banana, frozen fruit, yogurt
Meal 2 2 eggs, 2whites, cheese, whole wheat wrap
Meal 3 hamburger, lettuce tomato, salsa,sour cream, wrap, cheese
meal 4 chicken breast, lettuce, tomoto, salsa, sour cream, wrap, cheese
meal 5 pork, asparagus, tuna, red pepper, baby greens,cheese
meal 6 Protein milk
getting really fatiged, so i will definitely gowith the aforementioned rest day scedule. only getting 6-7 hours sleep, and falling asleep everyday after work is not uncommom for me.
02-22-2006, 11:43 AM
Do you tend to overtrain easily? I'd think a young one like you on H-50 would be able to pull 3on/1off easily without getting anywhere near overtraining...
02-22-2006, 11:46 AM
Definitely make sure you get enough rest bro. I know what it feels like to be tired all the time. I think my gains slow down and even stall when I feel too tired. Plus my workouts just suck when I don't have enough energy.
Log looks good......keep it up brother
02-22-2006, 11:56 AM
Meal 1 Cottage cheese,apple
meal 2 Whole wheat bun, ham, swiss cheese, lettuce
meal 3 Egg salad, whole wheat bun, lettuce
meal 4 chicken breast, whole wheat pita, lettuce
meal 5 chicken breast, whole wheat pita, lettuce, fresh fruit, protien, yogurt.
meal 6 protein, oats, milk
meal 7 yogurt, whole wheat pita, cheese, tuna, baby greens, cucumber, pickles.
incline hammer stength 90x12, 180x10, 230x10, 270x10
decline dumbell 75x12, 85x10, 95x11- failure
flat bench glosegrip/ widegrip supersets 135x15close-135x8wide, 135x12close-135x6wide.
cable chest lower chest flye
Seated calf raise 45x20, 90x20, 125x13, 125x8
standing calf raise 75x15, 75x12, 90x10
one leg calf raise 30x8, 15x10
Felt quite tired, weak had a more physically active day than im used to. Excellent pumps but didnt feel that strong, once failure was attaied endurance dropped dramatically to the point where i benched 135 for 6. Looking huge with the crazy pumps but strength has very limited if any noticable gains.
Body weight update 216.5
02-22-2006, 12:07 PM
day 5 measurements
Shoulder(around body) - 54.5
Back - 48.5"
waist(at belly button) - 37.5
hips - 36.5
glute(around largest portion) - 40.5
thigh - left 24.5, right 25
thigh above knee - left 15.5, right 15.5
calves - left 14.5, right 14.5
Arms - left 16.9, right 17
forearms - left 13.5, right 13.5
Now my legs from the knee down suck and is my major focus, as my forearm is almost as big as my calf. always has been i have crap feet and ankles and have been skinny all my life, but now that ive added about 1.5 inches to my calves in 4 years and 4.5 inches to my arms it gotta be fixed. my legs are usually quite strong but need to look bigger too. wait till i post pics lol.
Found my tape on day 5 and lost my pre halo measurments, but with such a slow acting compound it should be accurate.
02-22-2006, 12:13 PM
Calves can be successfully trained 2x and even 3x a week. SLOW, deep, painful 20-rep sets is where it's at, IMO.
02-22-2006, 12:18 PM
Well i worked out 5 or so in a row so that had something to do with it. I did back and deads the da y before i started halo then did an entire split and did 2 hours of running for rugby. im a dope for doing it but i felt like i could get away with it. old habits die hard but i have to get smarter cause im not getting any younger.Originally Posted by Grunt76
02-22-2006, 12:22 PM
Thanks grunt ill do that, i did calves istead of abs cause they are still trashed from a few days ago when i used my ab wheel before bed then the next day, did abs as part of my rugby training. If they arent sore ill do both abs and calves till i catch back up.Originally Posted by Grunt76
02-22-2006, 12:25 PM
Thanks man, i had lethargic strength but still put out decent numbers. not PB stuff here but my muscles are blowing up huge when i hit em.Originally Posted by *Bulldog*
02-22-2006, 01:42 PM
Still looking for sugestions on incorporating ActivaTe into your PCT?
02-22-2006, 04:00 PM
sure i was gonna do 0/4/4/4/4 so start 1 week in and do RD for 4 weeks, but if you know of a better way im all ears.
02-22-2006, 04:56 PM
Personally I'd do 0/0/4/4/4/4... And if you're going to be using ATD, keep one cap a day going until you finish the bottle, as usually there's more than a PCT's worth to a bottle.
About the number of consecutive training days: Of course if you're doing some intense training for another sport, then you have to factor that in...
02-22-2006, 05:56 PM
so grunt you think i should go with 1 cap a day until i use up my rebound
02-22-2006, 06:15 PM
Yep I think finishing off the PCT with a low dose of ATD can do 2 things: stave off a rebound from the suddenly-stopped ATD levels, as well as having higher-than normal testosterone levels, which is good while having the ActivaTe. There is some notion that ActivaTe by itself might be somewhat suppressive, so I'd run a low dose of ATD with it to counteract that effect.
Moreover, since it CAN be a little suppressive, I feel it's the best idea to let the ATD do its job by itslef in the first 2 weeks prior to using the ActivaTe. Dr. D stated this before, I believe.
02-22-2006, 07:54 PM
Yes, 0/0/4/4/4/4 was also my suggestion as I see to many people start on the first day of PCT and its a waste. I also agree on the ATD theory as well.Originally Posted by Grunt76
02-22-2006, 07:55 PM
Hey , did you use the new set of Halodrol or the old set becuase I know thiers some deliberation on the two. Whether or not thier the same.
02-23-2006, 11:51 AM
Thanks for the advice, consider it implemented, dtrain13 and grunt.
02-23-2006, 11:51 AM
Its from island supps, i think its the first batch, but who knows.
02-23-2006, 02:29 PM
Meal 1 yogurt, banana
meal 2 patrami, rye bread, egg salad, on whole wheat.
meal 3 1 litre of chocolate milk, apple
meal 4 protein shake, fresh fruit
meal 5 chicken breast, lettuce, whole wheeat wrap
meal 6 chicken breast, hot sauce
meal 7 protein, milk
Week 1 summary
Noticable fat loss, muscle hardness, and body changes.
muscles feel full and hard, no problems getting a pump.
Some lack of endurance noted with general fatique, this can be attributed to overtraining this week. I have become quite irritable but normally i am a high strung guy anyway. People just kkep doing **** to piss me off, at work with friends, in the community. I recognise there may be some halo 50 correlation but someone looking me in the eye being rude tends to set me off anyway. I want to cause physical and emotional pain to various people and hope to not kill anyone. Did i mention i havent had a vacation in 5 years since i was 18. Its my birthday friday and hope to alleviate some stress by having non alcoholic fun with friends and family. I have not snapped and do not feel any shut down, no acne, some lethargy but not out of the normal. I have had 5-6 hours sleep every day this week and NEED to improve upon this for various reasons. Going to workout tonight and hope to see an increase in strength, feel more rested today as i popped some ZMA to get more REM sleep. I havent had sex in three days so libido must be down or i would have got some by now, in long term relationships i tend to get more aroused when the sears catalogue falls on the floor, then when im in bed with my girlfriend.
02-23-2006, 03:07 PM
A lot of users report that there are similarities between H-50 and SD. SD is known for being very dependent on carbohydrates, as it seems to suck them right out of the bloodstream. The moodiness you experience reminds me of hypoglycemia.
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
So i need to eat more hearty carbs,my carbs have been cionsisting of fruit, veggies, wraps and pitas. What do you recommend as i can say i have felt weak for being on a PH. This would explain the fatigue, and lack of strength increase to date. I will alter my diet, add oats to my protien shakes, eat more variety of carbs and try other things. Thanks grunt i will search hypoglycemia. AAHH more food, I will eat more rice, potatoes, fruit, and veggies, then i shall reap the benefits.Originally Posted by Grunt76
Last edited by somewhatgifted; 02-23-2006 at 04:05 PM.
02-23-2006, 03:41 PM
dtrain13 you neg repped me and said "your welcome", maybe clicked the wrong one.
02-23-2006, 06:06 PM
My bad. It was a pos rep. I have no rep power so it shouldn't hurt you. Was it red?Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
02-23-2006, 06:08 PM
Either way no prob, but it seemed odd.Originally Posted by dtrain13
02-23-2006, 06:12 PM
Indeed. I know how to use the rep system from other boards. Was the box red?Originally Posted by somewhatgifted
02-23-2006, 06:19 PM
Yeah no rep power but it was red. Hey no big deal.Originally Posted by dtrain13
02-23-2006, 07:27 PM
Yeh, once Bobo tried to positively rep me, but it was when he'd just cancelled out all his reps, so it gave me a red square with grey boxes next to it. That's a zero-positive rep. Too bad, I'd have like 500 more...
02-24-2006, 01:43 PM
I definietly feel a differece if i dose with any coffee or tea in my system. the halodrol must have some sort of affect with stimulants. I dont drink much of either but had a hot chocolate for a bit of a morning wake up, minutes after dosing i felt the "buzz". Has to be a correlation.
02-24-2006, 02:55 PM
Great log...I've been keeping up. I will be doing H-50 very soon. Did SD a while ago....v. good gains. I want to start cutting, so I'll use the H-50 to drop fat. I will post my proposed cycle once I get it finalized. I'd appreciate if you and Grunt could critique it. Would be much appreciated.
Current stats: 5'8", 203lbs, ~16-18% bf (a low point in my life, but I still have somewhat of a 6-pack visible...).
Desired results on H-50: Gain 8lbs of quality weight and LOSE fat.
****I really want to lean out....but I want to make this cycle the start of my lean-out. Should I do any sort of cardio while on it (if not running, perhaps power walking? frequency?). After the cycle, I'll start to do cardio (running, biking, swimming, etc). Thanks in advance for your help!
02-24-2006, 04:38 PM
I will post last nights workout, meals. If you do cardio youll need to adjust your calories as my diet had doubled, but ive never been over 12-14%.Originally Posted by biotekguymba
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