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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    BC you have to pay on the pound. That's why you SHOULD care...
    Lol. I have 5 bottles of SD-10, so I don't think I would actually buy any of it anyway.
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    So it's the day before the start of the cycle, I weighed in a little light this morning 166.5lbs. I haven't been watching my cals this week though so probably not eating enough. Gonna start tracking them again starting today, want to keep it around 3000-3500 calories trying to gain good lean mass. Last time I bulked I was eating 3500 to 4000 and I think it was a little too much, gained more fat than I'd have liked to. Will increase if gains aren't coming though.
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    Subbed, Your Gonna Love SD I know I am. Are you gonna check your Blood Pressure? What routine will you be running on cycle? Kill It Bro =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    Subbed, Your Gonna Love SD I know I am. Are you gonna check your Blood Pressure? What routine will you be running on cycle? Kill It Bro =)
    Glad to have ya man. I will periodically check BP have a wrist cuff. I'm gonna be running a 5-day routine Legs/Chest/Back/Arms/Shoulders, will post workouts each day, aiming for at least 20 sets each day.

    Woke up this morning, 10mg of SD with 400mg of 4ad, 2 1g fish oils, and 2 spoonfuls natty peanut butter. About to eat 3 hard boiled eggs and hit the gym, then a protein shake and bowl of oats. Legs today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    Glad to have ya man. I will periodically check BP have a wrist cuff. I'm gonna be running a 5-day routine Legs/Chest/Back/Arms/Shoulders, will post workouts each day, aiming for at least 20 sets each day.

    Woke up this morning, 10mg of SD with 400mg of 4ad, 2 1g fish oils, and 2 spoonfuls natty peanut butter. About to eat 3 hard boiled eggs and hit the gym, then a protein shake and bowl of oats. Legs today.
    Just got up to for work. Tired as hell. Didn't sleep well. But anyways go murder the gym bossman
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    DAY 1! Legs:

    Sled Leg Press: 270x15, 360x10, 360x8, 360x8, 450x5 (weight is without machine weight which is 118)
    Calf Press: 160x12, 190x10, 190x10, 190x8, 190x6 supersetted with below
    Hamstring Curls: 80x15, 95x12, 110x10, 125x8, 125x6
    Quadricep Extensions: 95x12, 110x12, 110x10, 110x8, 125x6

    Forgot my notebook to write everything down today so those might be off a little, but I know max weights are all right. Did sled leg press instead of squats today because both power racks were being used. Felt like I went a little weak for a leg day but made up for it, went to a 7th century cathedral and walked around for about 3 hours, including up and down a ton of stairs so my legs feel pretty busted. Pretty good day, only thing to note so far is a headache but I think it was just from not drinking enough water today now that I'm home and I've drank some feeling a little better.
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    Also checked BP, was 136/79, so in high normal range. Like I said though I think I didn't drink enough water at all today, and I actually just read that drinking more water can lower BP so maybe that's got something to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    DAY 1! Legs:

    Sled Leg Press: 270x15, 360x10, 360x8, 360x8, 450x5 (weight is without machine weight which is 118)
    Calf Press: 160x12, 190x10, 190x10, 190x8, 190x6 supersetted with below
    Hamstring Curls: 80x15, 95x12, 110x10, 125x8, 125x6
    Quadricep Extensions: 95x12, 110x12, 110x10, 110x8, 125x6

    Forgot my notebook to write everything down today so those might be off a little, but I know max weights are all right. Did sled leg press instead of squats today because both power racks were being used. Felt like I went a little weak for a leg day but made up for it, went to a 7th century cathedral and walked around for about 3 hours, including up and down a ton of stairs so my legs feel pretty busted. Pretty good day, only thing to note so far is a headache but I think it was just from not drinking enough water today now that I'm home and I've drank some feeling a little better.
    Great wokrout man don't sell yourself short, those numbers are gonna sky rocket in about 2 weeks =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    Great wokrout man don't sell yourself short, those numbers are gonna sky rocket in about 2 weeks =)
    Thanks man! I've got high hopes for this run gonna kill it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Thanks man! I've got high hopes for this run gonna kill it!
    Heck yeah, keep those carbs in you, i had a loss of appetite the first week, but i had no problem eating, just make sure your always eating a little something.
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    Day 2: Chesticles

    Just as a note DB weights are both DBs added together on exercises where 2 DBs are used.

    Flat DB Bench: 100x12, 120x10, 130x8, 140x5, 140x5
    Incline DB Bench: 80x10, 80x10, 100x5, 100x5, 100x4
    DB Pullovers: 60x12, 65x10, 65x10, 70x8, 70x8
    Pec Deck: 50x15, 70x12, 80x12, 90x10, 100x8
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    Hanging Leg Raises: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10

    Felt pretty good today, except felt weak on incline. I changed up my routine though for this cycle, used to start with incline so it's different doing them after 5 sets of flat. Really trying to focus on good contractions and flexing the target muscle(s) as much as I can, chest is definitely feelin' it.

    Weight this morning was 169. If you want to get an idea of my macros here's what I got yesterday:

    2984 calories
    193g protein
    255g carbs
    106g fat

    Usually I'm happy as long as I get at least 200g of protein, though ideally I would like to get 220 to 250. Experience has taught me that I can and will grow at 200-220g of protein ed though. These macros are really good compared to my last cycle I think because calories are about 500-1000 lower but protein is in the same range.
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    Im jealous... cant wait to start mine. Are you going to up your carbs during this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4 View Post
    Im jealous... cant wait to start mine. Are you going to up your carbs during this?
    Not planning on it. Maybe if the lethargy gets really bad I'll consider it.
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    Well I am on day 3 of my Stano run... Im running 800mg Stano ED and 30mg SD MWF... The Stano is doing it's job, I keep getting random boners. Reminds me of high school. Today was the first day I've "felt" anything from the Stano.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr
    Well I am on day 3 of my Stano run... Im running 800mg Stano ED and 30mg SD MWF... The Stano is doing it's job, I keep getting random boners. Reminds me of high school. Today was the first day I've "felt" anything from the Stano.
    Niceee. How long u running SD that way? How's it going with that dosing scheme? Also nothing better than that Hs boner lmfao
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    Not planning on it. Maybe if the lethargy gets really bad I'll consider it.
    I would up the carbs. I hate carbs myself but on SD it will shutter it to the muscles much better. It depends on it. If anything go high on carbs say 3 days than go mediocre or low carbs the other days. I never go high on carbs but when I run mine I sure will go high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    I would up the carbs. I hate carbs myself but on SD it will shutter it to the muscles much better. It depends on it. If anything go high on carbs say 3 days than go mediocre or low carbs the other days. I never go high on carbs but when I run mine I sure will go high.
    I don't have a problem with carbs and I'm certainly not trying to avoid them or limit them. It's just that I'm happy with my macros the way they are right now since I'm trying to hit 3000 cals a day, so I don't see a need atm to change my diet. Except trying to get a little bit more protein in maybe.

    So far no headaches today so I'm guessing the one I had yesterday was from some mild dehydration, never get headaches usually. About to get some sushi, nice mix of carbs and high quality fish protein!
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Niceee. How long u running SD that way? How's it going with that dosing scheme? Also nothing better than that Hs boner lmfao
    Not real sure. Surely no longer than 6 weeks, but possibly shorter. I responded ridiculously well to SD, so I may reach my goal of a solid 190 long before 6 weeks. I respond to an SD pulse like most respond to a regular cycle. With how I usually naturally gain weight, I'll need to hit 195 and then cut the fat. I've tried true "lean" bulking, but I personally respond better to dirty bulking and then cutting. I weigh myself every morning after I pee so I can keep things consistent. I've come to realize that my afternoon weight is often 4-6lbs heavier than my first weigh in, but isn't consistent at all.

    I ran SD for one week, MWF just as a test to see how I responded 3 weeks ago and picked up 6lbs that I did not lose. I had zero shut down, zero sides, and 6lbs in a week just blew my mind. I say zero shut down, but honestly I don't know what true shut down feels like. I wouldn't call this 6lbs of "lean" mass, but 6lbs of anything with my metabolism is insane. This was a solid week of doing everything perfectly (eat, sleep, macro intake, and training), so I highly doubt I'll see those kind of results for 6 weeks, but I'm expecting 15lbs between the Stano and SD.

    I've got my PCT in order, and I've got all of the recommended cycle support. My cycle is slightly unorthodox, but this is my compromise to running a pulse/true cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    Not real sure. Surely no longer than 6 weeks, but possibly shorter. I responded ridiculously well to SD, so I may reach my goal of a solid 190 long before 6 weeks. I respond to an SD pulse like most respond to a regular cycle. With how I usually naturally gain weight, I'll need to hit 195 and then cut the fat. I've tried true "lean" bulking, but I personally respond better to dirty bulking and then cutting. I weigh myself every morning after I pee so I can keep things consistent. I've come to realize that my afternoon weight is often 4-6lbs heavier than my first weigh in, but isn't consistent at all.

    I ran SD for one week, MWF just as a test to see how I responded 3 weeks ago and picked up 6lbs that I did not lose. I had zero shut down, zero sides, and 6lbs in a week just blew my mind. I say zero shut down, but honestly I don't know what true shut down feels like. I wouldn't call this 6lbs of "lean" mass, but 6lbs of anything with my metabolism is insane. This was a solid week of doing everything perfectly (eat, sleep, macro intake, and training), so I highly doubt I'll see those kind of results for 6 weeks, but I'm expecting 15lbs between the Stano and SD.

    I've got my PCT in order, and I've got all of the recommended cycle support. My cycle is slightly unorthodox, but this is my compromise to running a pulse/true cycle.
    That sounds legit man, I wouldn't be against trying something like that sometime at all. I've done the dirty bulking thing a lot in the past, pretty much all I've done, trying to keep it clean this time and see how it goes. I always weigh myself in the morning before eating too, best time for true weight. My weight usually goes up 3-4lbs throughout the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    I don't have a problem with carbs and I'm certainly not trying to avoid them or limit them. It's just that I'm happy with my macros the way they are right now since I'm trying to hit 3000 cals a day, so I don't see a need atm to change my diet. Except trying to get a little bit more protein in maybe.

    So far no headaches today so I'm guessing the one I had yesterday was from some mild dehydration, never get headaches usually. About to get some sushi, nice mix of carbs and high quality fish protein!
    Oh okk. I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr

    Not real sure. Surely no longer than 6 weeks, but possibly shorter. I responded ridiculously well to SD, so I may reach my goal of a solid 190 long before 6 weeks. I respond to an SD pulse like most respond to a regular cycle. With how I usually naturally gain weight, I'll need to hit 195 and then cut the fat. I've tried true "lean" bulking, but I personally respond better to dirty bulking and then cutting. I weigh myself every morning after I pee so I can keep things consistent. I've come to realize that my afternoon weight is often 4-6lbs heavier than my first weigh in, but isn't consistent at all.

    I ran SD for one week, MWF just as a test to see how I responded 3 weeks ago and picked up 6lbs that I did not lose. I had zero shut down, zero sides, and 6lbs in a week just blew my mind. I say zero shut down, but honestly I don't know what true shut down feels like. I wouldn't call this 6lbs of "lean" mass, but 6lbs of anything with my metabolism is insane. This was a solid week of doing everything perfectly (eat, sleep, macro intake, and training), so I highly doubt I'll see those kind of results for 6 weeks, but I'm expecting 15lbs between the Stano and SD.

    I've got my PCT in order, and I've got all of the recommended cycle support. My cycle is slightly unorthodox, but this is my compromise to running a pulse/true cycle.
    sounds like its going good for you especially saying its hard for u to gain. 6 weeks pulsed should yield more gains I'm sure. You seem to have everything lined up. I can't dirty bulk or should I say i never will that's scary lol. Losing that stubborn belly fat is not easy so I always keep a clean diet. We all different though so I can't compare. Shutdown could be noticeable but most of the time you really need to take blood test to really see. Sd and stano is becoming everyone's go to cycle now. Just make sure u covered in all aspects when it comes to your pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    That sounds legit man, I wouldn't be against trying something like that sometime at all. I've done the dirty bulking thing a lot in the past, pretty much all I've done, trying to keep it clean this time and see how it goes. I always weigh myself in the morning before eating too, best time for true weight. My weight usually goes up 3-4lbs throughout the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Yeah Mr. CandyBars and ChowHall Muffins! Even Gunnar is eating healthy now!
    Lol that was the old me! A long time ago... now it's much different. Today's weight is 170.6, about to hit the gym.
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    Today was back, day 3. Said to myself I wasn't going to max deadlifts, but of course ended up doing it anyway, just can't hold myself back from trying to pull all I can lol. I usually do OH Pullups but I've decided to try UH for awhile, and they are pretty tough since I'm not used to them. Want to build up to doing 50 UH pullups on back days, got 35 today.

    Day 3: Back

    Deadlifts-135x15, 225x8, 225x8, 275x4, 325x1
    UH Pullups-8, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 2
    Machine Pulldowns-120x10, 120x10, 120x8, 130x4, 130x5
    DB Rows-60x10, 60x8, 70x6, 70x6, 70x5

    Possible side from something, I've had some bad nausea near the end of my workouts that lasts until I eat something. I say a possible side because I've commonly had nausea in the past from pushing really hard in the gym, and this could be the case. It seems to be cured easily by a protein shake and a PBJ though so no biggie. It's happening about an hour and a half after I dose the SD and 4ad. I'll find out this weekend if it's being caused by one of the compounds when I dose them without working out. Other than that I feel great, and happy about my DL max today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterTruckr View Post
    Well I am on day 3 of my Stano run... Im running 800mg Stano ED and 30mg SD MWF... The Stano is doing it's job, I keep getting random boners. Reminds me of high school. Today was the first day I've "felt" anything from the Stano.
    where's the log @??
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Today was back, day 3. Said to myself I wasn't going to max deadlifts, but of course ended up doing it anyway, just can't hold myself back from trying to pull all I can lol. I usually do OH Pullups but I've decided to try UH for awhile, and they are pretty tough since I'm not used to them. Want to build up to doing 50 UH pullups on back days, got 35 today.

    Day 3: Back

    Deadlifts-135x15, 225x8, 225x8, 275x4, 325x1
    UH Pullups-8, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 2
    Machine Pulldowns-120x10, 120x10, 120x8, 130x4, 130x5
    DB Rows-60x10, 60x8, 70x6, 70x6, 70x5

    Possible side from something, I've had some bad nausea near the end of my workouts that lasts until I eat something. I say a possible side because I've commonly had nausea in the past from pushing really hard in the gym, and this could be the case. It seems to be cured easily by a protein shake and a PBJ though so no biggie. It's happening about an hour and a half after I dose the SD and 4ad. I'll find out this weekend if it's being caused by one of the compounds when I dose them without working out. Other than that I feel great, and happy about my DL max today.
    great lifts bro, how many carbs did you consume pre-workout? It might have been you didn't get enough and depleted your glocogen stores during your workout. I usually have at least 25/50 grams of carbs on deadlift, squat days or I feel like I have to puke mid-way through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    great lifts bro, how many carbs did you consume pre-workout? It might have been you didn't get enough and depleted your glocogen stores during your workout. I usually have at least 25/50 grams of carbs on deadlift, squat days or I feel like I have to puke mid-way through.
    Actually this morning it was about 65g. I had a cup of oats with skim milk and an egg in it, and two hard boiled eggs. Though I think you're on the right track, I've noticed throughout the day I start to feel a little sick when I get hungry, then I eat something with carbs and I'm good again. I didn't hit the gym till about an hour after I had the carbs this morning though so that was probably it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Actually this morning it was about 65g. I had a cup of oats with skim milk and an egg in it, and two hard boiled eggs. Though I think you're on the right track, I've noticed throughout the day I start to feel a little sick when I get hungry, then I eat something with carbs and I'm good again. I didn't hit the gym till about an hour after I had the carbs this morning though so that was probably it.
    that should have been plenty of carbs, might just take your body a couple days to get use to the SD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike

    that should have been plenty of carbs, might just take your body a couple days to get use to the SD.
    Quit being a pus$y bro. Panthor never complains!

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    Yo, lets get some hunger/back-calf pumps/lethargy/mood etc updates if you have any of that. It'll probably be 'tomorrow' for you by the time you read this.
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    Double post.
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    Nicee. Yea hunger for carbs especially. I like to snack with some nuts or fruits In between meals so I won't over eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    that should have been plenty of carbs, might just take your body a couple days to get use to the SD.
    I was thinking maybe this is the case, stuff is strong. It's nothing I can't put up with so I'm not too worried.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Quit being a pus$y bro. Panthor never complains!

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    Dude you have no idea how bad the hunger is man, on day 4 of this cycle and it's worse than week 5-6 on hdrol for hunger. Even with eating every couple hours I still feel pretty dam hungry a lot of the time. Nothing I can't put up with though. Sorry to hear about your money situation, hope you get your stuff soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by lumipz View Post
    Yo, lets get some hunger/back-calf pumps/lethargy/mood etc updates if you have any of that. It'll probably be 'tomorrow' for you by the time you read this.
    The hunger is the only side I've had so far, I'm expecting to get pumps and lethargy sometime though, just don't know when it's coming. Mood is fine, feel the same, no extra aggression in the gym or anything. As of right now it's looking good to up the dose to 20 next week, just arms tomorrow and the workout for the week is done.

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    Taking a ton of pills everyday so I'll make a couple notes on some of them that some people might find interesting. 4ad has a mint coating, it tastes just like altoids, which worried me at first because they look just like altoids, but don't worry once you get paste that tasty exterior they taste like crap so I'm sure it's legit. The other one to note is the Aegis, holy crap, this stuff smells STRONG. Aegis smells like nail polish remover, and the caps have a strong chemical taste so I try to not let them sit on my tongue long, but anything that smells like that has got to be potent lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by halfhuman View Post
    Nicee. Yea hunger for carbs especially. I like to snack with some nuts or fruits In between meals so I won't over eat.
    That's a pretty good idea, I need to get some fruit anyway. Apples are great to have around for when the lethargy hits, good natural energy boost.
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    Or raisins and nuts ... Simple trail mix of raisins, nuts, coconut and maybe some craisins is a great natural energy boost!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    That's a pretty good idea, I need to get some fruit anyway. Apples are great to have around for when the lethargy hits, good natural energy boost.
    It sure helps. Go to the fruit market ASAP! :-)
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    Just to give you a idea, im eating about every 90 minutes that I'm awake, not large meals, example- grapes and Greek yogurt, or apple slices with pnut butter, in between my large meals. Nice job on shoulders dude, keep it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadmanMike View Post
    Just to give you a idea, im eating about every 90 minutes that I'm awake, not large meals, example- grapes and Greek yogurt, or apple slices with pnut butter, in between my large meals. Nice job on shoulders dude, keep it up.
    It's good thinking, I definitely think I'll have to start eating this way, even after an hour without eating I'm pretty hungry. Even if I just ate a big meal.
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    How's your work schedule and such? I know it can be rough, since I'm just in school so some lectures/labs can be 3 hours so I always put down atleast 1000-1200 kcal for breakfast incase. Its always harder to catch up the later the day goes... oh yeah and what're you dosing Taurine ATM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumipz View Post
    How's your work schedule and such? I know it can be rough, since I'm just in school so some lectures/labs can be 3 hours so I always put down atleast 1000-1200 kcal for breakfast incase. Its always harder to catch up the later the day goes... oh yeah and what're you dosing Taurine ATM?
    Right now I'm off until next week. I actually have an easier time getting in calories when I'm working, since I usually have specific things I bring for lunch everyday. When I'm off I tend to wing it more. As for breakfast I usually only eat about 400-600 cals, I get most of my calories later in the day.

    I'm actually not dosing taurine at all right now, I do it as needed. So once I start getting back pumps I'll dose it preworkout, worked well on my hdrol run.
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