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  1. Quote Originally Posted by HardCore1 View Post
    Good comment! Its so much easier to cut fat after gaining some extra muscle while on test.
    This is true, but imo/ime it isn't the muscle that boosts your metabolism. I have found that using super high carbs, mod protein, low fat to be best to boost metabolism while gaining weight. Most people screw this up horribly though by eating ****ty processed carbs which I believe to be just as crappy as straight dextrose and sucrose. Use high quality carbs and keep insulin as low as possible (no processed **** and minimal sugar) with healthy fats should get your metabolism jacked up nicely.

    Fructose is a toss up and I could rant about that for a bit, but I won't =).

    P.S. when I was on my first cycle, I ate whatever I want and opted for a lot of fatty sugary crap most of the time which explains the fat gain and only slight increase in metabolism. Purely anecdotal though.
    Last edited by jt339; 11-11-2012 at 02:16 PM. Reason: Meant sucrose, not fructose.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jt339 View Post
    This is true, but imo/ime it isn't the muscle that boosts your metabolism. I have found that using super high carbs, mod protein, low fat to be best to boost metabolism while gaining weight. Most people screw this up horribly though by eating ****ty processed carbs which I believe to be just as crappy as straight dextrose and fructose. Use high quality carbs and keep insulin as low as possible (no processed **** and minimal sugar) with healthy fats should get your metabolism jacked up nicely.

    Fructose is a toss up and I could rant about that for a bit, but I won't =).

    P.S. when I was on my first cycle, I ate whatever I want and opted for a lot of fatty sugary crap most of the time which explains the fat gain and only slight increase in metabolism. Purely anecdotal though.
    Makes perfect sense, if you eat good quality carbs from natural sources you should gain better weight. I mean anyone can jam some carbs into their diet with a pack of donuts lol, but not a good idea.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti
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  3. Here are some after pics:

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    Happy with the results of the cycle. Definitely gained some great lean mass, my abs are showing way more than before. Look bigger overall, and leaner. Those were taken fasted this morning, weight 178.5.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  4. Also lifts before/after cycle were:

    Bench - 225 BB/235 BB (Really happy with this haven't moved my bench up in forever, weakest lift by far)
    Squat - 335/385
    Deadlift - 335/405

    Not sure if I'll keep all the strength but I'm gonna try like hell. So far the PCT is going good everything seems to be doing it's job. No estro effects felt, libido seems fine(though it actually got a lot better partway through Stano), no lethargy or mood effects.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  5. Body def changed. U look bigger and leaner. Nice change in numbers too bro. Keep it up. Glad u enjoyed ur cycle. Can't wait to run my SD cycle :-)
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro
    Also lifts before/after cycle were:

    Bench - 225 BB/235 BB (Really happy with this haven't moved my bench up in forever, weakest lift by far)
    Squat - 335/385
    Deadlift - 335/405

    Not sure if I'll keep all the strength but I'm gonna try like hell. So far the PCT is going good everything seems to be doing it's job. No estro effects felt, libido seems fine(though it actually got a lot better partway through Stano), no lethargy or mood effects.
    Sick dead lift Super! Congrats!

    Looking good. Need to get rid of that gut now .

    Hope PCT goes well
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Sick dead lift Super! Congrats!

    Looking good. Need to get rid of that gut now .

    Hope PCT goes well
    Lol gut will probably get a little worse during the rest of my winter bulk, especially since I won't be on anything. Hopefully with the addition of more cardio though I can keep the fat gain minimal. Gotta get big as hell though! People already keep saying I'm looking pretty big now, but I've got a long way to go!
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  8. I'm cutting some fat now pre-SD. Looking to stack Alpha-5 test from FrontRunner labs. Will keep sides at minimum and help harden me after this cut. I was gonna use Androhard but we all know that wont happen now.

    I'm using Alphamine, slin-sane, recover pro and CEE right now. No DAA or anything. Going let me body work itself to a normal state before SD... Any recommendations on doses? I'm thinking 10/10/20/20 or something close. Just a lean bulk... Hoping for 7-10 lbs after PCT
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    I'm cutting some fat now pre-SD. Looking to stack Alpha-5 test from FrontRunner labs. Will keep sides at minimum and help harden me after this cut. I was gonna use Androhard but we all know that wont happen now.

    I'm using Alphamine, slin-sane, recover pro and CEE right now. No DAA or anything. Going let me body work itself to a normal state before SD... Any recommendations on doses? I'm thinking 10/10/20/20 or something close. Just a lean bulk... Hoping for 7-10 lbs after PCT
    I would go with 10/20/20/20, no reason to keep it at 10 more than one week if there are no sides and you're only doing 4 weeks.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  10. successful cycle bro. awesome gains!!
    Day by Day, we get better and better! Tillí we canít be beat Ė Wonít Be Beat!

  11. Shoulders

    Military Press-135x6, 145x3, 135x5, 135x5, 135x3
    Upright Rows-90x6, 90x5, 90x6, 90x5, 90x5 (weight without EZ bar)
    DB Shoulder Press-60x6, 65x6, 65x6, 65x6, 70x4
    SS
    Decline cross knee sit ups-15, 10, 10
    Cable Front Raise-17.5x6, 17.5x6
    SS
    Cable Shoulder Press-42.5x6, 42.5x6,
    SS
    Cable Lateral Raise-12.5x6, 12.5x6, L7.5x6
    SS
    Cable Rear Delt Raise-12.5x6, 12.5x6, L7.5x6

    Strength is holding up nicely, actually up from last week on a couple lifts. Felt BEAST on upright rows today, pulled 45s on the EZ bar on every set. Weight this morning was 179.5 fasted, highest it's been so far.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  12. Legs

    Squats-275x6, 315x6, 365x2, 405xfail, 275x4
    Good Mornings-135x6, 145x6, 155x6, 155x5, 155x4 (form sloppy on last set)
    Calf Raises-90sx6, 90sx6, 90sx6, 90sx6, 90sx6
    Quad Extensions-5 sets of six, 3 plates up from bottom, 2 up on last set(not marked on machine)

    Went hard on squats today, strength is still there. Didn't get 405 but 365x2 isn't bad in my book. Weight slowly increasing on good mornings as well, still getting used to the movement again haven't done them regularly in awhile. Wanted to do another set of squats but quads kept giving out even when I dropped the weight down so I just moved on.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  13. yea dude, 365 is nothing to scoff at. I can't squat jack. I was told two yrs ago I was looking at back surgery and was constantly visiting the chiropractor's office. Adding weights (squat/deads/goodmornings) has been the best thing for my back. I would take your numbers any day bro!!
    Day by Day, we get better and better! Tillí we canít be beat Ė Wonít Be Beat!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by mustang0341
    yea dude, 365 is nothing to scoff at. I can't squat jack. I was told two yrs ago I was looking at back surgery and was constantly visiting the chiropractor's office. Adding weights (squat/deads/goodmornings) has been the best thing for my back. I would take your numbers any day bro!!
    I was mid physical therapy an my PT told me to go back to lifting and it did wonders for me! Weird huh
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  15. Chest and Bis

    Flat BB Bench-205x5, 225x3, 245x2(assisted), 225x3, 205x3
    SS
    Preacher Curls-50x6, 55x4, 50x6, 50x6, 55x3
    Incline DB press-70sx6, 70sx6, 70sx6, 70sx6, 70sx6
    SS
    Incline DB curls-35sx6, 35sx6, 35sx5, 35sx5, 35sx6
    DB Pullovers-80x6, 90x6, 90x4, 80x6, 80x6
    Cable Curls-57.5x6, 62.5x5, 62.5x5, 62.5x6, 62.5x4
    Cable Fly-45x6, 45x6, 45x6, 45x6, 45x6

    Trying to get this weeks workout done tomorrow so meshed biceps in with today, tris will be with back tomorrow. Really trying to work up to being able to do 225 as my working set. I think maybe I would've gotten 245 with no help if we hadn't been supersetting, guess I'll try again in a few weeks. Great workout, a little longer than usual, but felt good!
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  16. Where you at SuperPro? I have a new log up!
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Where you at SuperPro? I have a new log up!
    I'll be in that shiz in a minute fool.

    Back and Tris

    Deadlifts-275x6, 315x4, 315x3, 275x4, 275x4
    BB rows-205x6, 205x6, 225x4, 205x6, 205x6
    SS
    One Arm Tricep Extension-25x6, 25x6, 30x6, 30x6, 35x6
    Rope Pulldowns-67.5x4, 62.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6
    Lat Pulldowns-125x6, 145x6, 145x6, 145x6, 145x5

    Having trouble holding good form on DL with 315 for reps, repping 275 though is good stuff. At the gym I've been working out at lately I have to do pulldowns sitting on a bench using a "straight bar" you attach both sides of a cable setup too. It works great and I could really feel it in my lats but can't do as much weight because there's nothing to hold your legs down.

    Next week I'll be doing a 3-day split and then resting for 4 glorious days over the fantastic thanksgiving weekend where I'll be makin' them gainz outta the gym. I think my body could use a long rest like that anyhow, does ya good.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  18. Did a session with trainer this morning, was pretty hardcore but ended up having to stop short. Did squats with resistance bands on smith machine, went up to using 5 bands with 1 plate on each side, he said the weight was equal to ~450 at the top and ~250 at the bottom with the bands we had on there. Did about 8 sets, then on the last one did a dropset one band at a time down to none, 4-6 reps each time down then 10 on the last one. I felt really sick after that, went outside and threw up, but felt better after that just not used to that level of intensity. Hardcore workout, definitely wanna buy me some resistance bands quads are destroyed.

    He also said when I do my first competition, which I want to do in May, I should start cutting 16 weeks out since it's my first time. That way there's room for mistakes because the diet is hard to follow. He said someone with more competition experience can usually get ready in 8-12 weeks but for people starting out more time is better.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  19. Hahahahahaha!

    You are worse than those fat ass people he trains! Love it SP! You Rock.

    I think I might ask for bands for Xmas! Have you researched any prices on them?
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Hahahahahaha!

    You are worse than those fat ass people he trains! Love it SP! You Rock.

    I think I might ask for bands for Xmas! Have you researched any prices on them?
    Lol yeah, I think I was working out a little harder than low intensity cardio mixed with a variety of kettle bell exercises like he does with them haha.

    Haven't researched the prices yet, I'm thinking they'll be on my x-mas list too, that and probably lifting shoes.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  21. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro

    Lol yeah, I think I was working out a little harder than low intensity cardio mixed with a variety of kettle bell exercises like he does with them haha.

    Haven't researched the prices yet, I'm thinking they'll be on my x-mas list too, that and probably lifting shoes.
    Lifting shoes? I use socks! My gym doesn't yell at me for doing deads, cleans and squats shoeless

    So did you dodge the 6 month vacation ?
    I can't believe that God put us on this earth to be ordinary. - Lou Holtz

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88 View Post
    Lifting shoes? I use socks! My gym doesn't yell at me for doing deads, cleans and squats shoeless

    So did you dodge the 6 month vacation ?
    I've heard they're better than barefoot, we'll see though.

    Yeah I'm not supposed to be going this time, dodged that bullet lol.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  23. Chest and Biceps

    Flat Bench-225x4, 215x6, 215x4, 205x3, drop 205x4/195x4/175x4/155x4/135x4
    Incline DB Press-70sx6, 75sx5, 70sx5, 70sx5, 70sx5
    SS
    Incline Curl-35sx6, 35sx6, 35sx5, 35sx6, 35sx4
    Preacher Curls-drop 60x3/40x3/20x3, 50x5, 40x5, 40x5, 40xfail (should NOT have done dropset first lol hardcore sh!t)
    DB Pullovers-80x6, 90x6, 90x5, 90x4, 80x6
    Cable Curls-62.5x6, 62.5x6, 62.5x5, 62.5x6, 62.5x6

    So this is the "dropset day" for the week. Basically I'm starting a thing where one day of the week there will be some drop setting and a lot of forced reps. It will rotate which day it is each week to try to spread the love all around. There were a lot more forced reps than I would've liked on the bench but whatever my pecs are sore as fk so it's all good! PCT going great, have tons of energy no problems at all so far, I would recommend the setup I'm running to anyone at this point. Morning weight today was 179.5, so still holding on to them gainz no problem!
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  24. Hows you PCT dosages and such so far + staples? Good to hear your doing fine, let us know if you get any sides or anything unusual, late rebounds kind of suck...

  25. Quote Originally Posted by lumipz View Post
    Hows you PCT dosages and such so far + staples? Good to hear your doing fine, let us know if you get any sides or anything unusual, late rebounds kind of suck...
    First week nolva 40 ed, second week started last friday dropped nolva to 20ed. Will start exemestane 12.5mg ed this friday, nolva will go to 20 eod(20mg caps) for last two weeks of use. Been taking 6 caps endosurge ed, 3 caps reduce xt, 8 caps cycle support(will be gone in a few days), and 6 caps Orange Triad. Dosages for endo and reduce will continue until I'm out, exemestane will taper down to 12.5mg eod after two weeks. To sum it up the plan is(barely changed from beginning):

    Nolva(20mg caps)-40/20/20eod/20eod/0/0
    Exemestane(12.5mg caps)-0/0/1/1/1eod/1eod
    Endosurge-6/6/6/6/6/6
    Reduce XT-3/3/3/3/3/3


    Back and Tris

    Deadlifts-225x6, 225x6, 225x6, 225x4
    BB Rows-135x6, 185x6, 185x6, 185x6, 185x6
    SS
    One Arm Tricep Press-25x6, 30x6, 30x6, 25x6, 25x6
    Rope Pulldowns-57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x5
    Lat Pulldowns-145x6, 145x6, 155x6, 155x6, 155x6

    Back was really sore all day today for some reason, maybe from all the forced reps/dropsets yesterday but crazy that it would be this bad. Had to go light on deads and rows because my lower back was so sore. It actually feels better now, I think the workout helped stretch me out.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  26. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    First week nolva 40 ed, second week started last friday dropped nolva to 20ed. Will start exemestane 12.5mg ed this friday, nolva will go to 20 eod(20mg caps) for last two weeks of use. Been taking 6 caps endosurge ed, 3 caps reduce xt, 8 caps cycle support(will be gone in a few days), and 6 caps Orange Triad. Dosages for endo and reduce will continue until I'm out, exemestane will taper down to 12.5mg eod after two weeks. To sum it up the plan is(barely changed from beginning):

    Nolva(20mg caps)-40/20/20eod/20eod/0/0
    Exemestane(12.5mg caps)-0/0/1/1/1eod/1eod
    Endosurge-6/6/6/6/6/6
    Reduce XT-3/3/3/3/3/3


    Back and Tris

    Deadlifts-225x6, 225x6, 225x6, 225x4
    BB Rows-135x6, 185x6, 185x6, 185x6, 185x6
    SS
    One Arm Tricep Press-25x6, 30x6, 30x6, 25x6, 25x6
    Rope Pulldowns-57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x6, 57.5x5
    Lat Pulldowns-145x6, 145x6, 155x6, 155x6, 155x6

    Back was really sore all day today for some reason, maybe from all the forced reps/dropsets yesterday but crazy that it would be this bad. Had to go light on deads and rows because my lower back was so sore. It actually feels better now, I think the workout helped stretch me out.
    Nice PCT man. that is solid for maintaining gains, wouldnt change a thing. How do you like the Endosurge? Killer workout too keep killing it.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  27. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Nice PCT man. that is solid for maintaining gains, wouldnt change a thing. How do you like the Endosurge? Killer workout too keep killing it.
    I love it. After helladrol I used simple DAA/Erase/Torem and I already like this combo a lot better. My libido has been back full force since a few days after start of PCT(with DAA took a couple weeks), have great energy all the time and my strength is holding well. It's good stuff
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  28. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    I love it. After helladrol I used simple DAA/Erase/Torem and I already like this combo a lot better. My libido has been back full force since a few days after start of PCT(with DAA took a couple weeks), have great energy all the time and my strength is holding well. It's good stuff
    Great stuff man. good to hear your libido is back and strength is good especially in PCT. I always seem to take a hit for my stregth no matter what, but a few weeks after PCT it comes back. I dont know what it is lol might just be my genetics because its the same no matter what I cycle ha
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88
    I'm cutting some fat now pre-SD. Looking to stack Alpha-5 test from FrontRunner labs. Will keep sides at minimum and help harden me after this cut. I was gonna use Androhard but we all know that wont happen now.

    I'm using Alphamine, slin-sane, recover pro and CEE right now. No DAA or anything. Going let me body work itself to a normal state before SD... Any recommendations on doses? I'm thinking 10/10/20/20 or something close. Just a lean bulk... Hoping for 7-10 lbs after PCT
    Slin sane is Still one of my favorite supplement s on or off cycle.
    It's easy, just lift heavy!

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Drizzie88

    I was mid physical therapy an my PT told me to go back to lifting and it did wonders for me! Weird huh
    I still believe that lots of doctors and chiropractors put fear in their clients about resistance training. The iron can and will cure all!
    It's easy, just lift heavy!
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