LOG Havoc + 11oxo Recomp

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Upping to 60 isn't necessary but I'm ready to end this mission and I don't want to have any leftover. Only 3 days @ 60, shut down is shutdown but for recovery I'm really depending on this torem!! Heard great reviews but never tried it.


    Torem's like Allstate. ..........your in good hands.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by epstaneman View Post
    Torem's like Allstate. ..........your in good hands.
    but I need my BALLZ to be in good hands

    haha
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  3. So I guess the joy jelly on the back didn't help in the size department eh? ); lol

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  4. Torem will get you kickin quick. At 120 for 3 or 4 days theyll be growing faster than they did during. Puberty

  5. good to know. Good to know.
    The dermacrine probably did help but after 5 weeks I think the Havoc won. My guess is I would have been tiny Tim alot sooner without the dermacrine. But I haven't had any lethargy whatsoever so perhaps the derma helped with that? Never ran havoc before so I can't say.
    I can say that even 75mg of 11oxo puts me to sleep faster than nyquil. That's why I didn't run it with this, or ever again for that matter. But I bought another dermacrine so I will definitely use it again with all my future cycles. Oh, I guess that means I am going to run more cycles in the future. Lol
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  6. Well based on your review and recommendations of dermacrine let's hope Tiny Tom doesn't visit me during my TBol/Stanodrol run this winter lol

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  7. Day 39
    since upping to 60, I have noticed that I can get cramps if I flex. Looks like it's time to up the taurine in proportion. But nothing else negative to report.
    I just about killed it today at the gym. I tied the 40 foot rope to the weight tree and pulled it back and forth for 30 minutes. I got it up to 410lbs and it was tough. My forearms were so tight that I had to shake them out when I got up to that weight. But I felt absolutely BEAST. It was like a saturday at the gym this morning-- trainers and soccer mom clients everywhere. It was funny watching them try to figure out how to walk around me and over the rope. the weird thing is that I didn't sweat that much even though I got my heart rate up to 174. Anyway, then I did some other back machines but I couldn't max out the stack after all those pulls. All good though, the muscle contractions in my back were absolutely intense. Awesome. 706 calories in 57 minutes. Solid.
    Macros Yesterday
    Carbs 54g
    Fat 107g
    Protein 302g
    eating all that beef really keeps me full for a long time. I can't believe that's all I ate yesterday, but I was stuffed! I'm going to keep eating 1/2lb of beef at lunch for awhile

  8. Will u be using taurine during your pct or do the back pump die off once u stop the PH?

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  9. I have tons of taurine... But back pumps and cramps and stuff should go away after the end of the cycle (and that's like tomorrow)

    Wow, I can't believe its ova! PCT is boring...

  10. Ok TY wasn't sure if u continued till the very end.


    And I'm looking at my PCT as a keep the mass drop some fat. In my little world it keeps me motivated lol

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  11. ahhhh 60mg of havoc is too much

    My blood pressure is whack

  12. ); and to think u can't have a beer to relax

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  13. Do you think extra Hawthorn Berry would help or hinder at this point? (Since I don't think that you have been taking it and I hear it spikes BP before it helps)

  14. Hard to say but make sure u get the extract NOT the fruit.

    I have been told that celery seed extract works faster

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  15. It helps, or is placebo. Either way it is also in cycle assist

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    Ending this cycle 2 days early. I'm good. Its been a superb run but I'm ready to feel normal
    120 torem, daa, pct assist, storm creatine all qued up for the mornin time

  16. Well it looks yummy. I'm sure it will do the job.


    And as for cutting 2 days early eh no worries. Health is everything. Glad to c u checked the ego at the door.

    Now lets get your PCT going and keep all that progress u made

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  17. Thanks, yeah no shame whatsoever in 39 days vs 42
    Plus I'm ready to drink PWO again.
    Let's see, torem tastes like chemicals. But possibly one of the worst things I've tasted was just a few minutes ago...
    Toothpaste and torem aftertaste + Cookies n cream protein (new, first time) + daa powder + blue raspberry Storm (creatine matrix) + (hot) chocolate coffee. All mixed in a glass and slammed with multis, fish oil, potassium, animal flex, cycle assist, aegis, liv 52, and pct assist. MORNIN'!!! Holy shot, I'm glad I'm only slamming this once a day
    Haha its all fun and games

  18. Wow that is a slam and a half.


    I'll b taking my SERM in the morning with my shake. Thank God I have caps and don't have to taste my Nolvadex but then later on I'll take my supports.

    But just the thought of above makes me want to sit down and heave lol

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  19. I wasn't thinking about that, until now that is. Bleh...

    Hopefully it gets easier for you :x

  20. Holy fk. I ate 4300 calories today. That has to be a PR!! .Basically didn't workout today. 200 calories on chest. My shoulder was jacked so I was on the foam roller for 45 minutes.
    I don't know if its mental because I'm pct now or what. But I sure am fueled up for tomorrow's workout. Queued up my nasty beverage for the morning and a full scoop of white flood PWO. I'm fkn fat as hell and ready for some heavy dead lifts.

  21. White Flood = Gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

  22. So when I drink it, it makes me gay right. I was wondering why I pee sitting down

    Off the top of my head, I can count 6 different pwo drinks in my cabinet
    1,3 hemo rage
    D-stunner
    Vasocor
    White flood
    1,3 1mr
    Some 1,3 samples of c4

    That's all gay too right? My pwo depends on what im feeling that day. Today is white flood because it gives me the most focus and the most beta alanine tingles without jitters.
    But I'm always interested in new pwo drinks....

    What do you recommend that is strictly heterosexual? (Btw clen is the best pwo ever. Can't wait until after pct when I can hit that again)

  23. White flood = Gay Ripped Freak = Gay Jack3d = Gay Animal Rage = Useful but ....still gay Amplified4x = Gay


    Launch360 = Useful and only semi-gay Craze = Good at first, then gay when you build up a tolerance.





    I'd go with some ephedrine personally.

  24. OK so why are they gay? I'm all about opinions but I need some details

  25. White flood = Felt like it was about to start giving me energy...but ended up getting me nauseated.

    Ripped Freak = Chalky residue left in mouth. Tastes bland as hell. More importantly...only gave me a 'partial' energy boost which lasted a whopping 5-10 minutes at the most.

    Jack3d = Absolutely NO energy. And I heard great things about this product too. Expected much more from it.

    Animal Rage = Finally a pre-workout I found that gave me crazy energy & focus....only it gives me heart burn. What a jip. Thought I found 'the one.'

    Amplified4x = Don't really 'feel' energetic but definitely have more stamina. Not worth the high cost it's at and not as 'intense' as I'd like.


    Launch360 = Best flavor pre-workout I've ever tried. Mixes well. Kicks in FAST but doesn't last as long as I'd like. No negative effects other then the length of time it lasts.


    Craze = Good flavor while in mouth, but weird a*s after taste. Awesome energy and focus like NO OTHER pre-workout I've ever tried. No heart burn... nauseousness...NOTHING. I found THE BEST pre-workout known to man. Then it all went down hill after a couple weeks when tolerance was built up.




    So I'm left here lonly. No pre-workout that gives me the energy I like....and the ones that do make me feel sick or don't stay effective.


    I've given up on pre-workouts all together now.
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