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    Day 20 - rest day

    Today is my rest day.

    I have to say i have been feeling rlly tired lately .. But once i get in the gym i feel better

    I also forgot i had testicles lmfao.. I havent even noticed them in a while now they r just tucked up not rlly any feeling there.

    I still have a sex drive though so thats good.

    Strength in my legs is goin thru the roof also.

    Also lookin a little more tighter in stomach area and back. Pics shud be up soon
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    Well im 2 days away from the start of Week 4 i rly wante to up the dose to 100 mg

    Anyone this i should or shouldnt?? I could use some guidance!!

    Also do i take 50mg in morning and 50mg at night??

    Help please
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Well im 2 days away from the start of Week 4 i rly wante to up the dose to 100 mg

    Anyone this i should or shouldnt?? I could use some guidance!!

    Also do i take 50mg in morning and 50mg at night??

    Help please
    FWIW, I bumped up to 100 this week and its going pretty good. Provided the sides aren't too bad, I wouldn't see a problem.
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    How are you dosing it??

    Idk if its ok to take it 50:50 or if i shud split it better


    You etting any sides??

    Ive been getting some acne and testicles are tukes all the way up almost like they arent there lol at 75mg
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    Doing 50:50. I figured that's the best way since when I started I was at 25:25 and then bumped to 25:50. Idk if taking 75 at once is more or less advisable or if it matters at all. If I were to go to 125, I'd do 50:75 etc.
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    Ok well

    Day 21 - weighed in at 197.6
    So im still up 2 pounds from the start of this cycle
    But have lost some fat...

    Tomorrow is the start of week 4

    So ill be bumping up to 100 mg
    50mg at 9am and another 50mg at 9pm

    Hopefully this will kick it up a notch.

    I have been gettin some pretty bad acne though..
    Idk what to do with it ?? What have others done to treat/prevent the acne
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    Other then acne creams/facewash's i wouldnt know...Sorry

    At least acne is your only side! : )
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    Yea i hope thats it today i woke up
    And had a very sore throat stuffy nose and ears popping


    I was fine last night idk y tody i woke up a mess.. I hope it just passes...
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    Subbed..
    I am starting an almost identical cycle in two weeks. 50/75/75/100/100/100..
    Splitting the dosage to twice daily.
    What are your plans for post cycle?
    One other question I have is can I still have my pre workout sup or does it mess with the Helladrol and the pump? Not sure here I heard that tho..

    Cheers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozHarris
    Subbed..
    I am starting an almost identical cycle in two weeks. 50/75/75/100/100/100..
    Splitting the dosage to twice daily.
    What are your plans for post cycle?
    One other question I have is can I still have my pre workout sup or does it mess with the Helladrol and the pump? Not sure here I heard that tho..

    Cheers...
    Well as for the PwO.. I was told not to use it bcuz. Of blood pressure issues... So i stopped i usually use Craze.. && honestly while being ON ... I havent felt like i needed a pwo... When i get in the gym i feel like i can just keep going nd going

    As for pct... Im using nolva / triazole / daa / primal male (t boost) / bcaa's / creatine mono / fish oils / multis
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    Day 24 - i bumped up to 100 mg on day 22 for the start of week 4
    Yesterday was my rest day though

    Today i will be hitting chest / tris hard lets see i 100mg has improved me at all.

    Ive been noticing that ive been really tired a lot lately thru out the day.

    Could it be because i might not be sleeping enough? Or is is the helladrol doin this?

    Also finding it hard to wake up in the morning
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    Day 26 -
    Almost done with 4 weeks of this cycle and honestly not to impressed. I was expecting a lot more maybe i just expected to much. But i dont see much difference at all when i look in the mirror... Well have to wait for before nd after pics...
    But hey maybe somethin will kick up a notc in the last 2 weeks.

    Im up about 2 pounds from the start and only seem a little bit thinner.. So idk where i stand yet.

    Strength disnt go up that much on bench press either..

    The most strength gains i seen were with legs && shoulder press..

    No back or chest gains rlly.. Idk i im doing something wrog though maybe not restong enough?

    Im eating a ton.. High protein medium on carbs

    Any suggestions to tirn this cycle around for the better and hae an amazing last 2 weeks???
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    Any tips/ help would be great ^^

    On anutha note... Just got home from leg workout and put up 450 on leg presss easily 10reps so my les are deffly getting stronger i maxed at 6 reps with 540lbs


    I just wish i was seeing crazy gains with upper body..

    When i started hdrol i was only leg pressin like 225ish lol
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    Day 28

    Been very lethargic lately just tired all day long

    But tonight ill be hitting gym hard and going to try to et pics up..

    This was my first week at 100mg and nothing different to report except the more lethargic feeling.

    I weighed myself this mornin im only up 1.5 lbs from the strt of this cycle.

    And ive been eating like a cow..
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Day 28

    Been very lethargic lately just tired all day long

    But tonight ill be hitting gym hard and going to try to et pics up..

    This was my first week at 100mg and nothing different to report except the more lethargic feeling.

    I weighed myself this mornin im only up 1.5 lbs from the strt of this cycle.

    And ive been eating like a cow..
    Don't beat yourself up about it. I went up like 5-6 lbs from last week on my pmag just from eating more carbs. Keep pushing, this is all a learning experience. You have an opportunity to gain something more valuable than mass in this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NonyaBidness

    Don't beat yourself up about it. I went up like 5-6 lbs from last week on my pmag just from eating more carbs. Keep pushing, this is all a learning experience. You have an opportunity to gain something more valuable than mass in this situation.
    True deffly a learning experience!!

    How many carbs wud yu say you eat?? I sually have teo meals a day that include rice ir pasta an the rest is just meats with veggies or salad
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    I am currently in my 4th week of hella too. The first three weeks I noticed about nothing changed, but as this week has went on I've really started to notice a body change and strength increase. It must just take a while to kick in and take affect, so hopefully yours will kick in
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    Quote Originally Posted by LTFU
    I am currently in my 4th week of hella too. The first three weeks I noticed about nothing changed, but as this week has went on I've really started to notice a body change and strength increase. It must just take a while to kick in and take affect, so hopefully yours will kick in
    I rlly hope so bro.. Im starting day 1 of week 5 tmmrw...

    This cycles basically over for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    True deffly a learning experience!!

    How many carbs wud yu say you eat?? I sually have teo meals a day that include rice ir pasta an the rest is just meats with veggies or salad
    Drop the veggies and add more rice/pasta. I honestly don't count carbs or protein but know how to get in the general area. I'm trying to grow, so the point is to eat enough. Calorie budgeting is more for a cut/recomp. 3 of my 4 meals consist of rice/pasta and meat, excluding whey and snacks of course.
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    Ok so ill try upping more carbs and protein and food in general but im eating to the point where i feel full all day and i feel sick to eat more by my next meal

    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Ok so ill try upping more carbs and protein and food in general but im eating to the point where i feel full all day and i feel sick to eat more by my next meal

    Lol
    Try having a slice of bread an hour after each meal. When I upped my carbs, I got hungrier since they burn up so quickly. It's like throwing kindling on a fire. Tbh, building a diet is a lot like building a campfire. You can raise the intensity of the flames with more kindling and keep it there with the big dry fuel logs (protein). Good luck starting a fire with just the logs. You'd need one hell of a spark or accelerant (anabolic).
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    Day 31 -
    So im in week 5

    Yesterday was a rest day and today ill be hittin chest / tris / abs

    Ive been going lighter on cardio thinkin thats why i havent been puttin on as much weight.

    Im still fluctuating around 2-4 lbs gained from beginnin of cycle.. Im starting to think my body isnt a great responder to hdrol

    Either way well see how it goes. Im still at 100mg

    Might be bumping it up to 125 for remainder of cycle soon

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    Ergoshred / HEAT / DCP / && Lean Xtreme

    Planning on shredding down.. Should i take all of these durin pct or wait until after PCT to start this stack???
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    do not cut during pct I feel safe reccomending ginseng for a 'pick me up' during cycle though.
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
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    Ok so after my 4 week pct it wud be safe to strt that stack that i have??
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    should be
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
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    Ok so ive been eating more / upped my carbs / && cut bak a bit on cardio .. However im still only weighin in at
    197.6. Thats 2 lbs more since ive started this cycle.

    I feel like ive gained more weight on nattyy t boosters in the past. .. I know ive lost some weight so technically ive gained more then 2 but well see at the end idnt think my bf% dropped too much

    Im really starting to believe its 1 of 3 things ..
    I got some bunk hdrol or my bodys a non responder ...

    Idk i thats possible but would love to hear what others have to say
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes
    Ok so after my 4 week pct it wud be safe to strt that stack that i have??
    Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes
    Ok so ive been eating more / upped my carbs / && cut bak a bit on cardio .. However im still only weighin in at
    197.6. Thats 2 lbs more since ive started this cycle.

    I feel like ive gained more weight on nattyy t boosters in the past. .. I know ive lost some weight so technically ive gained more then 2 but well see at the end idnt think my bf% dropped too much

    Im really starting to believe its 1 of 3 things ..
    I got some bunk hdrol or my bodys a non responder ...

    Idk i thats possible but would love to hear what others have to say
    Doubt it's bunk as you said you got lethargic. Have you kept logs on your strength? I used hdrol and gained mad strength. Poundage wise I
    Barely got 6 over 6 weeks iirc but I was eating around 5000 cals a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    Doubt it's bunk as you said you got lethargic. Have you kept logs on your strength? I used hdrol and gained mad strength. Poundage wise I
    Barely got 6 over 6 weeks iirc but I was eating around 5000 cals a day.
    Honestly bro... Strength hasnt gone up muchh at all besides in my legs... I am lifting way more with my legs now ... But not really seeing much difference in bench press and other body workouts besides a few pounds more... But training 5 weeks will raise strength even when your not "on"

    Like i said earlier also i did lose a little fat in my lefs and ab area ... And im up 2ls but im also eating like 3-4000 calories a day high protein and also now high carbs
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    Day 33 - working back / biceps today

    Will update more afterworkout ...
    So far same old news nothin great to report.

    Thinking about kiking it up a notch to 125mg for this last 9 days

    Any thoughts on that?? Sound good or bad??


    Lethargy webt away only major side im getting is bad acne
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    Ok so i did 75mg in AM an 50mg in Pm

    Giving me 125mg im going to run it t 125 for
    My remaining 9days

    Hopefully this kicks it up a notch.. Ive also been cutting back on cardio hoping this may help also.

    On other hand had a great bicep/back workout .. Di some hammer curls and felt great pumps that i normally dnt get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Honestly bro... Strength hasnt gone up muchh at all besides in my legs... I am lifting way more with my legs now ... But not really seeing much difference in bench press and other body workouts besides a few pounds more... But training 5 weeks will raise strength even when your not "on"

    Like i said earlier also i did lose a little fat in my lefs and ab area ... And im up 2ls but im also eating like 3-4000 calories a day high protein and also now high carbs
    hmm, could be a lot of things.. but yea I feel your frustration.... hows the body comp looking? I think I said earlier I made INSANE strength gains on all my cycles but most of them were either bulks (Eating 5k+ cals a day), or I was doing just reps and not even looking at my strength numbers, as does usually tend not to gain on cuts. Even on the goodies. How far advanced of a trainee are you? I mean you could just be on the higher end of the strength curve. I can deadlift around 395, squat 365 and bench 315 (These are my 5RMs). But I dont think a cycle will help me add much more than 10lbs even if it is mdrol aside of what a proper program would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    hmm, could be a lot of things.. but yea I feel your frustration.... hows the body comp looking? I think I said earlier I made INSANE strength gains on all my cycles but most of them were either bulks (Eating 5k+ cals a day), or I was doing just reps and not even looking at my strength numbers, as does usually tend not to gain on cuts. Even on the goodies. How far advanced of a trainee are you? I mean you could just be on the higher end of the strength curve. I can deadlift around 395, squat 365 and bench 315 (These are my 5RMs). But I dont think a cycle will help me add much more than 10lbs even if it is mdrol aside of what a proper program would do.
    Nice lifts!, Whats a proper workout program to you?
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    Well today is my 2nd day takin 75mg in the mornin and im gettin a more hungry feeling...

    Maye 125 is my sweet spot weel see how it goes at the gym tonight .. Ill bedoing legs / shoulders / abs / cardio tonight!!

    Goin to hit it hard!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinprice9

    Nice lifts!, Whats a proper workout program to you?
    One that has been working for you. A lot of strength gains come from pushing our limits. If we feel like a program is working we tend to try even harder. I like any strength based periodised system. 531, West side barbell, Wave training 5x5 (modified a bit). On my best strength training cycle to date I followed an upper/lower 5x5 with assistance routine.
    5x5 on bench, and deads and squat on lower day
    3x8-12 on everything else (a combo of upper body/lower body stuffs that I could do at the time. Hypertrophy so less rest and more reps moved my 1rm of 225 to a nice 3rm of 275 in 6 weeks.... I was assisted though. )
    For me I found that no program made me feel as good as a 5x5 or strength type approach. The 10-20 rep stuff just made me feel like I was gonna die... Loss strength and loss mostly muscle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes
    Well today is my 2nd day takin 75mg in the mornin and im gettin a more hungry feeling...

    Maye 125 is my sweet spot weel see how it goes at the gym tonight .. Ill bedoing legs / shoulders / abs / cardio tonight!!

    Goin to hit it hard!!!!
    What has your diet been like as of late? Adding carbs in the morning will help you increase your appetite. I have noticed that without the carbs eating a lot of calories is not as easy. I would do 75g of oats plus 6 eggs every morning, lunch would be about 3 chicken thighs and some veggies and 100g carbs of rice, dinner probably was something like 150g carbs in rice plus some type of stew with at least 80g of protein. Before bed I'd eat 1 cup of peanut butter and a shake. Also, between every meal I'd drink a shake with 44g of protein plus some fruit. And this was on rest days. Workout days I'd eat at a buffet post workout and a either a buffet for dinner, or someplace like a sushi bar. Also, switched the the water in the shakes for yogurt on this day. You want size and strength? Gotta eat lol.
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    Wow yea thts a lol im deffly not eating that many carbs or protein

    But ive een havin either oatmeal or eggs in the morning

    Then a penaut butter sandwhich on oatmeal bread about 1.5 hrs after then ill have lunch which is normally chicken nd rice aand after lunch ill have another peanut butter sandwhich on oatmeal bread then come home from work have some greek yogurt.

    Then goto gym come home an have dinner whih is normally steak and rice or chicken again or turkey

    Then i may have a protein shake after dinner before bed


    But good news today... Weighed myself and i an 201.5 that means i am up 6lbs

    Ive completly cut out cardio for almost a week .. And upped carbs.

    I weighed myself a little after eatin so i know its not completely accurate but its obvious that i am gaining!!!!
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    One that has been working for you. A lot of strength gains come from pushing our limits. If we feel like a program is working we tend to try even harder. I like any strength based periodised system. 531, West side barbell, Wave training 5x5 (modified a bit). On my best strength training cycle to date I followed an upper/lower 5x5 with assistance routine.
    5x5 on bench, and deads and squat on lower day
    3x8-12 on everything else (a combo of upper body/lower body stuffs that I could do at the time. Hypertrophy so less rest and more reps moved my 1rm of 225 to a nice 3rm of 275 in 6 weeks.... I was assisted though. )
    For me I found that no program made me feel as good as a 5x5 or strength type approach. The 10-20 rep stuff just made me feel like I was gonna die... Loss strength and loss mostly muscle.

    Just starting A workout made by PES, looks very good!
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    Day 35 - upper body power workout

    Feeling amazig!!! Strength is finally here!!!! Went from doing 135 on decline bench to 155 for 3sets 10reps!!! Feel amazing && great pumps!!!

    Im actually at the gym bow just had to post this between sets .. Haha


    Also just went from 145 to 155 on flat bench for 3sets 10reps!!!!
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    That's great news man. On cycle, I made it a point to do more volume that usual. Don't be afraid of higher reps and extra sets.
  

  
 

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