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    Is milk thistle affecting a methyl PH Like Helladrol in a bad way ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pride89
    Is milk thistle affecting a methyl PH Like Helladrol in a bad way ?
    It affects any methylated PH's if taken together..

    Its recommended to take any liver support 4 hours before or after ur doses. Not together. I think it affects the process of your body breaking it down and absorbing it
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    It enhances your body's ability to break down the compounds (bro-science for the most part, I'm sill trying to find the oxford study myself).
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    Day 7 - Upper Body Power Day

    No bloody noses still since i started the extra hawthorn nd celery seed..

    So i upped to 75mg tday

    Going to hit the gym tonigjt.

    I took 50mg this morning. Will take 25 more tnite.

    Feeling normal still. Other than increased appetite and higher libido everything else seems pretty normal. Other then not gettin sore anymore.
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    Day - 8 ... 2nd day at 75 mg

    Had a great upper body workout late last night.. Feeling great this morning just a little soreness.

    Got lower body power day today


    Not experiencing any sides or anything. And still no more bloody boses since ive bought the extra hawthorn berry & celery seed extract & saline solution.

    Startin to see a little strength gains, not much yet. CAnt wait to start getting the strength gains and for it to start showing

    I havent weighed myself since the start i will probly wait a few more days.
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    Day 9 - cardio & les today .. Going to the gym in a little bit.

    Only new thingnive noticed is a little extra acne.. No real strength gains yet that i know of. But lets see how todays legs nd cardio goes.

    Diet has been pretty good .. Cant wait to weigh myself and see whats going on. Idk how long i should wait.
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    weekly weigh-ins aren't bad.
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    Day 10
    Today is my chest/back/shoulder day of course with some cardio. ill be hitting the gym after work today.

    so far, i dont seem to look any bigger.. but my stomach seems like its starting to get a little more cut. i weighed in today.

    Current Weight - 155.6 Starting Weight - 155.5

    So basically my weight hasnt changed after being ON for about 10day now. however like i mentioned, i do feel like my stomach area has tightened up a bit.

    My diet is good, high in protein low carbs and low fat. training hard and heavy. We'll see how it continues to go.

    I should start seeing more effects from the hella soon now shouldnt i? usually takes about 14days??
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Day 10
    Today is my chest/back/shoulder day of course with some cardio. ill be hitting the gym after work today.

    so far, i dont seem to look any bigger.. but my stomach seems like its starting to get a little more cut. i weighed in today.

    Current Weight - 155.6 Starting Weight - 155.5

    So basically my weight hasnt changed after being ON for about 10day now. however like i mentioned, i do feel like my stomach area has tightened up a bit.

    My diet is good, high in protein low carbs and low fat. training hard and heavy. We'll see how it continues to go.

    I should start seeing more effects from the hella soon now shouldnt i? usually takes about 14days??
    From what I understand, you'll feel it before you see it. I'm in the same boat with PMAG. I've noticed a little tightening but, I'm ready to begin the Heath-ening process .
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    do you always do chest n back together for me that would be alot to really workout in say less then 2 hours and even thats kinda long. personally i have a back and bi day and a different day for shoulders and chest but i do do some light pulls to strech out my chest. just wondering if u always do it this way and if theres a reason i all ears just sounds like to much at once IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.O.A.T59
    do you always do chest n back together for me that would be alot to really workout in say less then 2 hours and even thats kinda long. personally i have a back and bi day and a different day for shoulders and chest but i do do some light pulls to strech out my chest. just wondering if u always do it this way and if theres a reason i all ears just sounds like to much at once IMO
    No real reason ive been doin it like this for a few weeks .. Someone wrote me up a workout chart so just been following it
    I do chest / back / shoulders
    Then tmmre bis / tris
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    Greatt day at gym hit it hard
    Then finished with 2 miles on treadmill

    Today i felt like my shins and calves were going to explode when i was running on the treadmill, idk if it was because i worked legs yesterday or wht but it was killin me
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    Day 11

    5th day at 75mg.. Havent rlly noticed any differences since 50mg at all. From those who have experience with helladrol, around what day exactly is average for me to start feeling different and seeing visible changes.

    I havent rlly been lifting much heavier for any muscle groups besides legs as well.
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    Had a good bicep/back/abs day today went really hard on weights..

    Really starting to wonder if i should ki k it up to 100mg starting week 3 because idk i was expecting more resulta by now. I kinda just feel the same when im in the gym.

    What do you all think??
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Had a good bicep/back/abs day today went really hard on weights..

    Really starting to wonder if i should ki k it up to 100mg starting week 3 because idk i was expecting more resulta by now. I kinda just feel the same when im in the gym.

    What do you all think??
    Im in the exact same place. PMag is supposed to kick in in the third or fourth week, so most people seem to try to run it at 6 weeks so they get 2-3 solid gain weeks. An SD cycle is usually 3 or 4 weeks and it kicks in much sooner so it kind of makes sense. Idk that the amount you use will affect the time when it kicks in or the degree. I guess if you have enough pills for 6 solid weeks then cool. Today is the first day of my third week and I'm probably going to do 100 from here on out to keep the cycle length brief and hopefully get some good gains, but it seems to be a trade off between a shorter cycle at a higher dosage an a longer cycle at a lower dose. Im not sure which one is actually superior.

    Edit: I've decided to do another week at 75. Makes more sense since the kick will still happen in the same place.
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    yea i think im going ot go at 50/75/75/100/100/125

    well see how it is going half way thru week 3, i may bump it to 100 .
    so far all ive really noticed is some thinning out in stomach area. no real size gains yet. and nothing major for strength gains.

    ive been doing more ab work more cardio and better diet.. so that can explain the thinner stomach area also.

    but it is only Day 12 For me.. so well see how it continues.
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    Hey im not really sure if i am prone to it. But so far my hair is fine havent noticed any changes with my hair at all yet.

    Thanks for followin as well bro

    Also i do want to mention my boys down there deffinetly have shrunken and are tucked up.

    Also noticing acne which idnt normally get.
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    Yeaterday was a rest day Day 12

    Today is Day 13

    Going to gym now to do legs / cardio / abs

    Likeni mentioned in a prvious post .. Onky sides so far are some acne. Nd my boys are deffly shrunken nd tucked up.

    Havent really noticed much strength gains in anythin besides my legs yet honestly.

    I used to leg press around 300 little more and now ive hit 540 and also 200 on leg extensions when i did 130 before.

    Havent noticed any different lifts in biceps or chest or back yet rlly.

    Well see how it continues to go
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    Bro 300 to 540 is a ridiculous increase in strength
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnake21
    Bro 300 to 540 is a ridiculous increase in strength
    Yea im saying its huge for legs but i havent increased any lifts on bench press. Bicep curls
    Any back work outs or anything. My cardio is gettting easier little by little. But yea just not seeing any difference in other lifts. Idk if i am doing something wrong
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    Maybe overtraining
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnake21
    Maybe overtraining
    How would i know if its this.. I mean i feel like i never get sore the next day
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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinprice9
    Well does anyone in your family suffer from balding? lol
    Well my grandfather from my mothers side is bald but hes in his 60s

    Umm i never met my real father or anyone in his family so i wouldnt know if they do.. But i have a lot of hair and always get compliments on how thick it is and how i have such a full head of hair
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    I know when I'm on I find myself over doing it and I have to remind myself to back off a lil. If youre not progressing then it's possible youre overtraining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnake21
    I know when I'm on I find myself over doing it and I have to remind myself to back off a lil. If youre not progressing then it's possible youre overtraining.
    Ill hve to keep this in mind because i have found myself doin more sets and extra exercises for different muscle groups i nt normally do only bcuz im not tired or sore when i would normally be done.. So idk if this is the case for me then
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Well my grandfather from my mothers side is bald but hes in his 60s

    Umm i never met my real father or anyone in his family so i wouldnt know if they do.. But i have a lot of hair and always get compliments on how thick it is and how i have such a full head of hair
    My grandfather also has mpb....will follow this log closely.....really hope you dont lose any hair on hdrol! : )
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    Day 14 - still on 75 mg

    Quick recap of whts happening so far.

    Noticeable strength gains in legs only
    Cardio is getting easier
    My testicles have shrunk
    Acne is strting to take place
    Skin is oily
    No hair losss
    Thinned out around my stomach a bit


    Weighed in today
    Starting weight 185.5 - Todays Weight 198.4

    So just about a 3lb gain in 2 weeks while also looking thinner . So it looks like hdrol is working, just not seeing strength gains in upper body yet.

    Today is my full Upper body workout so well see how it goes also adding cardio intoday
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Day 14 - still on 75 mg

    Quick recap of whts happening so far.

    Noticeable strength gains in legs only
    Cardio is getting easier
    My testicles have shrunk
    Acne is strting to take place
    Skin is oily
    No hair losss
    Thinned out around my stomach a bit


    Weighed in today
    Starting weight 185.5 - Todays Weight 188.4

    So just about a 3lb gain in 2 weeks while also looking thinner . So it looks like hdrol is working, just not seeing strength gains in upper body yet.

    Today is my full Upper body workout so well see how it goes also adding cardio intoday
    Fixed. I was about to trash my pmag and do hdrol ASAP till I read the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NonyaBidness

    Fixed. I was about to trash my pmag and do hdrol ASAP till I read the rest.
    Yea my bad that was a typeo its was 195.5 starting weight nd todays weight was 198.4

    Lol sorry
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    Ok so just got home from gym

    Extremely happy to say that i think the strength is startin to kick in
    For shoulder presses i normally warm up with 90lbs and work up to 120 and usualy struggle to hit 8 reps with 120 but today i hit
    140 7reps !!! Noticed that went up

    As far cardio i am noticing an issue.. Normally takes me 30 mins to run 3 miles but today it took me 22mins to run 2 miles because it felt like my calves and shins were going to burst..

    I felt like i had energy to keep sprinting and breathing was ok but my calves could nottake it i kept having to slow down dramatically and my calves were getting hard.. I had to stop at 2 miles then went and did a quick 2 miles on bicycle.

    But yea idk whats up with my calves / shins feelig likethey r going to burst
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    nvm, my mistake.
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    Day 16 -

    Still feelin the same as ive been..
    Not rlly sure why im getting that calf pain

    Today is supposed to e a rest day but if i find time im going to go do some cardio
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    Day 17 - had a great chest workout.. Upped my decline bench a bit.

    Also did some cardio i was able to set a new record for running my first mile. Finished it in 7mins 50sec!!!!

    Day 18 - today is back & bicep i will be hittin the gym after work tonight..!!!

    I am planning on upping to 100mg a day for Day 21 because im at 75 and not seeing any major results yet or feeling much stronger.

    My question is, if i bump to 100mg on day 21 to start week 4, do i take 50mg in am and 50 at night?

    Currently i am taking 50mg at 9am and 25 at 9pm

    Would it be 50 50 now or 75 / 25
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    Day 17 - had a great chest workout.. Upped my decline bench a bit.

    Also did some cardio i was able to set a new record for running my first mile. Finished it in 7mins 50sec!!!!

    Day 18 - today is back & bicep i will be hittin the gym after work tonight..!!!

    I am planning on upping to 100mg a day for Day 21 because im at 75 and not seeing any major results yet or feeling much stronger.

    My question is, if i bump to 100mg on day 21 to start week 4, do i take 50mg in am and 50 at night?

    Currently i am taking 50mg at 9am and 25 at 9pm

    Would it be 50 50 now or 75 / 25
    I was gonna do 50/50
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    Quote Originally Posted by NonyaBidness

    I was gonna do 50/50
    What day are you on? Arent you alrdy in week 4??

    Im starting week for coming up soon so i was gnna swap it to 100mg hoping to see better results
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    Quote Originally Posted by djmikeyspikes View Post
    What day are you on? Arent you alrdy in week 4??

    Im starting week for coming up soon so i was gnna swap it to 100mg hoping to see better results
    Today is the first day of my fourth week and we're in the same wavelength about wanting more results. Regardless of gains, this cycle will be a success because I've learned a lot on it and about ds.
  

  
 

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