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    Mattrag and MankoOyaji's leanville quest with Mdrol/AH


    Okay bros this is our combined log for getting lean. Our plan of action is:

    Cycle

    Mdrol

    10/10/10/10/10/10

    AndroHardv2

    0/4/4/4/6/6

    PCT will be:

    Clomi

    75 (4 days)then 50/50/50/25/25

    DAA

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    I have Nolva on hand and I will use it only if I feel gyno flare ups.

    That's the backbone. MankoOyaji might be running some other things in PCT from USPLabs and I might do some other things from AI sports nutrition, or if I decide to run a sponsored log.

    Goals for the cycle are:

    GET LEAN.


    BackGround story:

    This log has been about 2 years in the making I'd say. I bought Mdrol with Hdrol back when the first PH ban was announced. My first cycle was with Hdrol and Manko Oyaji advised me on what to do, as he has had many cycles under his belt. We also had another guy run the cycle with us too. Best I ever felt. Manko got HELLA lean, then decided that this lifestyle wasn't for him and let the wheels fall off the wagon. This is the continuation of his attempt to regain back his body and just get healthier overall.

    Maybe some of you have read my back story in another thread, but I'll give a short version here. Was fat all my life, never picked to play sports during class, was the nerd type. Senior year came and I was able to drop about 20lbs or so (260-240). Then I took around another 7 years to get to 210lbs. Slow but steady recomp. Never "cutting". But never bulking. Just hitting the gym and trying to eat healthier.
    Came here (Japan) in 2009 and met Manko Oyaji who has changed my life for the better. Thought me a lot about dieting, PH, supplements, training etc.

    Manko Oyaji is a great guy. Knows a lot about supplements, training etc. Has trained people in Guam, and also has taken sports training classes in college. We both share one common passion though... and unfortunately it makes us fat...


    With that said I hope we can get all teh support we can get from you guys here at Anabolic Minds who have took my body even further through the community's sharing of knowledge and many great member's uncanny wisdom and kindness.


    LET'S DO THIS!!!!!
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    Total weight gain 18lbs. Strength on all lifts:

    Bench Press 255x5 -> 315x6
    Standing Military 155x10 -> 175x10
    Bent Over row 275x10 -> 315x10
    Sumo Deadlift 315x5 -> 385x5
    Squat no prs but added more weight (getting squat back up to what it used to be before injuries)


    Good cycle all in all. Im on Day 27 of PCT. I think I am about 50% back. So from now it should be all uphill. Still on a bulk eating around 3200 cals on off days and 3800 on workout days. 350g protein or so.
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    I'm your first

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    Wanna see some mdrol results
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I'm your first

    Edit: Sorry if that creeped you out Manko, I realize we don't yet know each other the way Matt and I do lol
    . . . . FL3X . . . I hope you don't think that this log is cheating on you.... My relation to Manko is purely professional. (If any of you know what Manko means you'll be cracking up, I could barely write that cause i'm laughing so hard)

    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Damn fl3x. Was hoping I would be in first. Give it hell Matty!!!!
    Oh yes, oh yes. FL3X is a hawk, with biceps for wings. He's sees all and is fast!

    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    Wanna see some mdrol results
    Thanks for stopping by man! Mdrol will be one crazy beast! 10mgs should be enough though to keep muscle on me while keeping them calories lower.
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    Good cycle plan...Def. gonna check this one out

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    I'm getting my super cheap superdrol tuesday, bought 4 bottles before they get yanked off the shelf. I'll sell them to you for $400 total
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    Oh heck yeah. Let's do this boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I'm getting my super cheap superdrol tuesday, bought 4 bottles before they get yanked off the shelf. I'll sell them to you for $400 total
    Ill give you 700$$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Ill give you 700$$$$
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Good cycle plan...Def. gonna check this one out
    Thanks! Hopefully it will yield some excellent resul
    Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    I'm getting my super cheap superdrol tuesday, bought 4 bottles before they get yanked off the shelf. I'll sell them to you for $400 total
    You know I ordered the same ;p

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    Oh heck yeah. Let's do this boys.
    Thanks Jeff. It's going to be one MEAN run haha! Hopefully I can become motivational in someone else's life with my transformation. I'm sure Manko's transformation will shock all!

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    In on this for sure. About to stock up big time on mdrol and everything that is Lu g for cheap over on PHF, gotta make sure I get my money's worth. Kill it bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NuclearLaunch View Post
    In on this for sure. About to stock up big time on mdrol and everything that is Lu g for cheap over on PHF, gotta make sure I get my money's worth. Kill it bro.
    Haha! Yup! This may be the last time we can get the PH's from online retailers. Then the PH's will be only available through mexico and china hhaha.
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    All this superdrol talks makes me wanna try some superdrol but I don't have no super balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronJP1 View Post
    All this superdrol talks makes me wanna try some superdrol but I don't have no super balls.
    Hdrol/epi/stano are all good too
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    . . . . FL3X . . . I hope you don't think that this log is cheating on you.... My relation to Manko is purely professional. (If any of you know what Manko means you'll be cracking up, I could barely write that cause i'm laughing so hard)

    Oh yes, oh yes. FL3X is a hawk, with biceps for wings. He's sees all and is fast!

    Thanks for stopping by man! Mdrol will be one crazy beast! 10mgs should be enough though to keep muscle on me while keeping them calories lower.
    Agree flex is a machine and he is on this thread quick smart. Good stuff lads and am fully subd to see this log yield some amazing Banta and results.
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    Your plan looks solid. I don't know lot about Androhard but certainly no stranger to M-drol. Good luck on your quest, Truth is on your side and at your disposal. Advice up front, stay hydrated and stay away from alcohol....trust me on this one methyl + too much ethyl = primed for death..yl lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by runner_79 View Post
    Agree flex is a machine and he is on this thread quick smart. Good stuff lads and am fully subd to see this log yield some amazing Banta and results.
    Thanks! There will be some great results in here1

    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    Your plan looks solid. I don't know lot about Androhard but certainly no stranger to M-drol. Good luck on your quest, Truth is on your side and at your disposal. Advice up front, stay hydrated and stay away from alcohol....trust me on this one methyl + too much ethyl = primed for death..yl lol
    Man that means a lot. I'll be looking to you for any guidance to handle sides while on cycle, and keep the gains off cycle.

    I don't drink, pretty much ever, so it should be all good
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    supported!!! god damn this has alot of traffic already. i shoulda came up with a cool name for my log, damn!!!
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    I haz the confuse??? Who is this manko?

    Matts on cycle alter ego?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    I haz the confuse??? Who is this manko?

    Matts on cycle alter ego?
    haha, a buddy who has yet to chime in I guess. He posts less often than I do (a lot less often about once or twice a day). This should keep my buddy accountable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srt4Muscle View Post
    supported!!! god damn this has alot of traffic already. i shoulda came up with a cool name for my log, damn!!!
    Haha, these guys are just friends who have been following another log.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag

    haha, a buddy who has yet to chime in I guess. He posts less often than I do (a lot less often about once or twice a day). This should keep my buddy accountable
    Ooook.... Managed to look up manko... Cute...

    Wonder how it directly translates in conjunction with oyaji? .....old man *****?

    Meh.... I still haz teh confuze... Lol... But read some funny threads on another board called f'd gaijin bout people making blunders in their japanese or fouling up somehow making a fool of themeselves as gaijin..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    Ooook.... Managed to look up manko... Cute...

    Wonder how it directly translates in conjunction with oyaji? .....old man *****?

    Meh.... I still haz teh confuze... Lol... But read some funny threads on another board called f'd gaijin bout people making blunders in their japanese or fouling up somehow making a fool of themeselves as gaijin..
    LMAO, my friend is like that. But he does most of that stuff on purpose. Where is he... we on page 2 and he hasnt even posted. I better call him ;P

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    Oh snaps, before my leg workout for some reason I wanted to hit shoulders...
    Military front/back

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    295x4 (barely got the 4th one up) This was a damn hard set. Almost reaching the good stuff.
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    Circuit: Pull up/BW squat/ walking lunges

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock13 View Post
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    Thanks! Man this log is gonna be sick. Manko is out doing some private lessons now so Im sure he'll tune in with his workout today.

    Do you notice anything different on super drol when training? I dont want to push myself to hard on cardio weights (hgih rep stuff) and then have a stroke or something lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post
    any tips on training on Mdrol?
    Train your a$$ off and eat like a bull

    I'd go with high reps (12 - 16) heavy weights and switch to low reps (6-8) even heavier weights in PCT Just my 0.2$
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    Train your a$$ off and eat like a bull

    I'd go with high reps (12 - 16) heavy weights and switch to low reps (6-8) even heavier weights in PCT Just my 0.2$
    AH I should keep weight relatively stable then, and just hit up higher reps.

    I just worry that Ill have a heart attack during the session lol
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    solid plan good luck! I shall be creeping
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConcreteConny View Post
    Train your a$$ off and eat like a bull

    I'd go with high reps (12 - 16) heavy weights and switch to low reps (6-8) even heavier weights in PCT Just my 0.2$
    I have heard people suggest this type of plan before. Does doing the higher reps on cycle allow for more growth compared to just doing strength (reps around 6) through the cycle and pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    I have heard people suggest this type of plan before. Does doing the higher reps on cycle allow for more growth compared to just doing strength (reps around 6) through the cycle and pct?
    You have a much greater chance of keeping your muscle gains in PCT when you send your muscles into shock with higher weights in PCT when you remove exogenous androgens.
    Focusing on volume (high reps) while on allows for your muscle membrane to expand even more which allows for growth to take place. If you focus on strength you might not get that pumped up, and well you get the point?!
    You could always go 5reps x 5sets or 5reps times 10sets for even greater load and volume
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    Wow, log blew up fast! This combo gets a lot of positive reviews bud, good luck!

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    There are a lot of guys who know a hell of a lot more about running PH/AAS and PCT then me here, but looking things over in a bit more detail, my thoughts were. 1) Save the Nolva if you are going with clomid already as a serm for PCT. 2) You may want to add something to your PCT that is natural to help keep your gains such as high quality Creatine (CEE?) and or Anabeta.

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