My M1,4ADD log
- 01-23-2004, 01:22 AM
- 01-25-2004, 05:39 AM
OK, so today is day five on 40mg and it is working great, my nipples are a little puffy, but not gyno in any way, so I added .5ml of nolva a day to the mix, and there are no more problems. I figure I have a little over a week left. Overall, I loved this product, it would be awesome with a test base.
For PCT I will be running Nolva,omegas, and the new cold fusion NO product from legal gear that I am beta testing for them.
I will weigh in monday for some results to post.
01-26-2004, 11:08 PM
01-27-2004, 11:40 AM
I will weigh in today, it has been almost a week on 40mg a day. My strength is crazy, and I am defintely putting on some size, and still looking lean.
I had to start nolva at 1ml a day, due to the puffy nipples. I am still loving the product though, sledge put out a really good one in this.
I will post my weight tommorow.
01-27-2004, 11:43 AM
01-27-2004, 07:07 PM
I'm doing the same as sifu; strength gains are the most I've seen from this product. Weight is up another 2lbs. I cut my carbs down a few days back though to kind of trim up a bit and it seems to be doing me good. I look a lot leaner, body comp. wise, and I'm as heavy as I've ever been right now. Weighing in at around 247 or so. Weight fluctuates though and I'm guessing that when I end this I'll have a good 10lb. or so gain. I will be ending this on the 30th of this month so only a couple more days to go. After PCT I will post my end results.
All in all, a very good product for those that are prone to bad reactions of other compounds that have a higher androgenicity. IMHO though the gains I got from M1T were better but, I could not stand the damn sides from it and won't do it again for that reason. In 2 weeks on M1T I gained around 12 or so lbs. if I remember correctly, but got sick as **** and lost like 6 or 7. I just hope I don't start pi$$ing my gains away again this time.
Good work sldge, seems to be a great addition to our PH/PS's....
01-28-2004, 01:00 PM
I am glad everyone likes it. I knew it wasnt going to be as strong as M1T but it wasnt suppossed to be. Like you have realised, having a strong compound like M1T is worthless if you wont ever want to use it. M14ADD on th eother hand is totaly different, which is what makes it a better choice.
01-28-2004, 01:08 PM
For me it is a completely better choice. This stuff with some test would be awesome, even some winny. Either way, I would take it over M1T any day. I have set personal bests in every lift since I started.
It is a great product. It worked better than M1T for me, but I hated working out on M1T as well.
01-28-2004, 01:09 PM
01-28-2004, 01:35 PM
HEh, I think everybody should try this out at least once. And they probably wouldn;t EVER go back to M1T. The new tabs will make it just that much better on top of the the better qualities.
01-28-2004, 01:58 PM
01-28-2004, 07:54 PM
01-28-2004, 08:30 PM
01-28-2004, 10:28 PM
I liked the M1T, harsh on the hairline (i think)
Was decent in the strength department (awesome for a 2week cycle actually).
The m1,4add treated your hair okay? sorry if this is repetitive
01-28-2004, 11:21 PM
Yeah, that was a big problem for me to w/ the M1T; it robbed me bro. I thankfully got most of it to grow back though. No problems whatsoever with the M1,4add. And I didn't even use spiro 5% cream this time. Regarding regular 1,4 andro, hair loss wasn't ever really reported by anyone in the past. And w/ this compound, the methylation process actually takes the androgenicity down some more. So I would say it would be a great choice for the people that can't stand the sides associated with other high androgenicitive (is that a word?) compounds.Originally Posted by Deoudes59
01-28-2004, 11:53 PM
Jergo, Sifu, how was the hpta shutdown of this compound compared to other stuff you have used?
Also how did you manage to get a little leaner when you had to use nolva to stop gyno symptoms? It seems that this compound is pretty estrogenic.
01-29-2004, 12:38 AM
01-29-2004, 07:50 AM
My shutdown hasn't been bad so far.
Bodyfat loss has little to do with the compound, and a lot to do with diet and the type of exercise.
As for the nolva and such, if you go to 40mg a day, I would highly suggest using nolva. Puffy nipples.
01-29-2004, 10:54 AM
That's strange though right? Hairloss from the M1T but not the M1,4add. Isn't this a dianabol precursor? I always though a 1,4 androgen would be deadly on the hair.
Good news for you Jergo however
01-29-2004, 11:00 AM
It converts to Methyl EQ which converts to Methyl Dbol, I believe, sledge would know for sure. I shave my head, so it is no differance to me.
01-29-2004, 12:54 PM
01-29-2004, 01:23 PM
01-29-2004, 02:51 PM
01-29-2004, 03:30 PM
01-29-2004, 05:35 PM
01-29-2004, 05:37 PM
Well mine hasn't gone down, and I have been on almost a onth now. M1T shut me down really bad by now. I know I will come down when I come off, but it is nothing like the loss I had on M1T.
01-29-2004, 05:43 PM
Looks like this stuff is much better then M1T, less toxic, less sides and not a sex drive killer.Originally Posted by sifu
01-29-2004, 07:32 PM
Sex drive; at first it seemed to increase a bit, but atm however, it went down a little, not much though.
Concerning the body comp. changes. The nolva really helped me w/ the retaining water. No problems whatsoever right now. The body comp. changes occurred mostly in this last week from me cutting back on carbs basically and doing a few cardio sessions. The muscle was preserving really well then, so I cut back even more on carbs in the last couple of days. And my weight still increased another lb today, so thats ****in great. I will up cals again tomorrow since it will be my last day. And will also begin V12 again along with my regular PCT therapy.
About the hairline on D-bol, it's an easy answer: I don't know.
01-30-2004, 12:16 AM
Well the tabs are about 7-10 days out. I hope to do a presale over the weekend, everyone seems to think its a good idea, so why not. m14add is the precursor to dbol, 14add is the precursor to eq. If you methylate eq you get dbol. so methyl14add goes straight to dbol at a very high rate of conversion which is why it easier to research dbol when looking for more info about m14add.
01-30-2004, 12:25 AM
Is there a decent estimate as to what the conversion rate is? I imagine there isn't any real way to test, but it can't hurt to ask.
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