My M1,4ADD log
- 01-28-2004, 11:58 AM
- 01-28-2004, 05:54 PM
what is the most dramatic aspect to it?
the strength gains?
- 01-28-2004, 06:30 PM
01-28-2004, 08:28 PM
I liked the M1T, harsh on the hairline (i think)
Was decent in the strength department (awesome for a 2week cycle actually).
The m1,4add treated your hair okay? sorry if this is repetitive
01-28-2004, 09:21 PM
Yeah, that was a big problem for me to w/ the M1T; it robbed me bro. I thankfully got most of it to grow back though. No problems whatsoever with the M1,4add. And I didn't even use spiro 5% cream this time. Regarding regular 1,4 andro, hair loss wasn't ever really reported by anyone in the past. And w/ this compound, the methylation process actually takes the androgenicity down some more. So I would say it would be a great choice for the people that can't stand the sides associated with other high androgenicitive (is that a word?) compounds.Originally Posted by Deoudes59
01-28-2004, 09:53 PM
Jergo, Sifu, how was the hpta shutdown of this compound compared to other stuff you have used?
Also how did you manage to get a little leaner when you had to use nolva to stop gyno symptoms? It seems that this compound is pretty estrogenic.
01-28-2004, 10:38 PM
Originally Posted by Jergo
Wow you made my night.... I know how it is man. Congrats on the gains.
01-29-2004, 05:50 AM
My shutdown hasn't been bad so far.
Bodyfat loss has little to do with the compound, and a lot to do with diet and the type of exercise.
As for the nolva and such, if you go to 40mg a day, I would highly suggest using nolva. Puffy nipples.
01-29-2004, 08:54 AM
That's strange though right? Hairloss from the M1T but not the M1,4add. Isn't this a dianabol precursor? I always though a 1,4 androgen would be deadly on the hair.
Good news for you Jergo however
01-29-2004, 09:00 AM
It converts to Methyl EQ which converts to Methyl Dbol, I believe, sledge would know for sure. I shave my head, so it is no differance to me.
01-29-2004, 10:54 AM
01-29-2004, 11:23 AM
Something like that, which is why I said I wasn't sure.
01-29-2004, 12:51 PM
Who makes the tabs?Originally Posted by Jergo
01-29-2004, 01:30 PM
01-29-2004, 03:35 PM
Originally Posted by sifu
Nice, how is this stuff on the libido?
01-29-2004, 03:37 PM
Well mine hasn't gone down, and I have been on almost a onth now. M1T shut me down really bad by now. I know I will come down when I come off, but it is nothing like the loss I had on M1T.
01-29-2004, 03:43 PM
Looks like this stuff is much better then M1T, less toxic, less sides and not a sex drive killer.Originally Posted by sifu
01-29-2004, 05:32 PM
Sex drive; at first it seemed to increase a bit, but atm however, it went down a little, not much though.
Concerning the body comp. changes. The nolva really helped me w/ the retaining water. No problems whatsoever right now. The body comp. changes occurred mostly in this last week from me cutting back on carbs basically and doing a few cardio sessions. The muscle was preserving really well then, so I cut back even more on carbs in the last couple of days. And my weight still increased another lb today, so thats ****in great. I will up cals again tomorrow since it will be my last day. And will also begin V12 again along with my regular PCT therapy.
About the hairline on D-bol, it's an easy answer: I don't know.
01-29-2004, 10:16 PM
Well the tabs are about 7-10 days out. I hope to do a presale over the weekend, everyone seems to think its a good idea, so why not. m14add is the precursor to dbol, 14add is the precursor to eq. If you methylate eq you get dbol. so methyl14add goes straight to dbol at a very high rate of conversion which is why it easier to research dbol when looking for more info about m14add.
01-29-2004, 10:25 PM
Is there a decent estimate as to what the conversion rate is? I imagine there isn't any real way to test, but it can't hurt to ask.
01-30-2004, 01:43 AM
Originally Posted by Designer Supps
01-30-2004, 11:59 AM
- 5'10" 180 lbs.
- Join Date
- Sep 2003
- Flagstaff, AZ
- Rep Power
Getting that "kid in a candy store" feeling coming on
01-30-2004, 03:04 PM
02-01-2004, 11:41 AM
OK so tommorow will be my last day on before I start PCT. Which will consist of Nolva, omegas, uni-livers and something that I can't post here, pm me if you like. Anyways, my weight stayed right around the same, however, every lift went up, and I was trying to loose weight it just didn't happen. Although the body comp change was unreal. I lost two inches off of my waste, and everybody was asking what I was using.
So all in all, I love this product, and I would recommend it to anyone, however not for your first PH use, it is definately a strong product and anti-e products need to be on hand.
I made good gains on 20mg a day, as well as 30mg a day. However when I went to 40mg a day, my strength really went up, but I also had to start nolva at 1ml a day for the puffy nips.
So there you have it, I only had one side at 40mg a day, and it was nothing, it is a product that you can't go wrong with.
02-01-2004, 02:24 PM
- 6'1" 240 lbs.
- Join Date
- Dec 2003
- Richmond, VA
- Rep Power
sifu, have you tried the M5AA yet?
02-01-2004, 02:26 PM
02-02-2004, 06:10 PM
Yeah, I know Too much stuff to try, too little time.Originally Posted by bioman
02-02-2004, 06:49 PM
Plenty of time to stock up though.heheheheheOriginally Posted by sly
02-02-2004, 09:13 PM
True, but I want to try them all NOW! (pouting)Originally Posted by Lean One
02-04-2004, 01:27 PM
hey sifu great log and congrats on the gains.
did you take any supps for liver/bp/etc.?
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