My M1,4ADD log

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  1. your 30 min ended a LONG time ago bro...so tell me about any strength gains if any


  2. Well my deadlift went up twenty pounds on my last set of three. My strength is definately up on this. I weighed in, and I am the exact same weight, which is really suprising. I have a total body composition change, so I know I have lost some fat, and I am swole. Not to mention that I have tripled my cardio getting ready for my tournament season, and started a cutting diet. So that should tell you how strong this product is. For me at least.
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  3. How long are you guys running this?


    I saw Sifu mentioned somewhere in the range of 3 weeks..what about you Jergo???

  4. Well I am running it until my two bottles is gone. Sledge said it should be four to five weeks.

  5. YESS!!!!!!!! I HAVE SHAT!!!! Nice healthy one too......umm....sorry, lol. Man, that had me in a $hitty mood, no pun intended.....

    Sweet, now that I have that out of the way, I can get siked for my workout comin' up. I'll be trying to run this for at least 3-4 weeks, BUT, I'm trying to plan around my spring break vacation coming up, so I have to sit down and figure it out. I don't wanna have to worry about PCT, drinking, etc.

    I'll be training today in an hour or so, will post back afterwards.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by sifu
    Well I am running it until my two bottles is gone. Sledge said it should be four to five weeks.
    Sifu, are you still doing 30mg?

  7. i think i like the sound of this,im doing [email protected][email protected]/ was doin also m5aa,but dropped it thought it will be better towards the end of my cycle,well my question is does anyone think that it would be alright on liver if i did 4 wks of m1t and stacked with m1,4add then dropped both and did m5aa for 3 more wks bringing it to a total of 7-8 wks

  8. Quote Originally Posted by WATERLOGGED
    i think i like the sound of this,im doing [email protected][email protected]/ was doin also m5aa,but dropped it thought it will be better towards the end of my cycle,well my question is does anyone think that it would be alright on liver if i did 4 wks of m1t and stacked with m1,4add then dropped both and did m5aa for 3 more wks bringing it to a total of 7-8 wks
    No, I don't think any methyl should be run over a period of 6 weeks.

  9. I wouldn't run M1,4ADD and M1T for four weeks together that is for sure. One or the other, added with M5AA. But you have to watch the doses. Toxicity is not something to play with.


    And yes I am on 30mg a day.

  10. Maybe I'm crazy but I think M1,4 and M1T would kick ass together. You'd get the awesome anabolic effect of M1T plus the sense of well being, awesome strength, and some estrogen from the M1,4. 4 weeks shouldn't be too bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by sifu
    I wouldn't run M1,4ADD and M1T for four weeks together that is for sure. One or the other, added with M5AA. But you have to watch the doses. Toxicity is not something to play with.


    And yes I am on 30mg a day.

  11. I am talking about the toxicity issue only. Not whether I would like to do it or not. Of course the gains would be great.

  12. Water weight = strength increase -> increase in LBM

    So the water is good.

  13. dang, didn't know that size...just curious, but how can or why would water weight add strength?

  14. Bah, friend got in a car accident and couldn't get to train earlier today or tonight. Will have to wait till tomorrow.
  15. Wink


    i ifgure the liver tox. is going to be issues with trying to stack methyls, but maybe if we use lower/ higher dosage on one or the other, for instance m1,4add use a lower dose and even a lower dose of say m1t or maybe if sledge might have a plans for an im ,without the "m" o'course

  16. As long as you kept the total intake down, I don't see why you can't stack M 1-T and M 1,4. Like doing 10 mg each per day, something reasonable.

    Now who is going to do M-19nordiol so I can have my D-Bol/Deca stack

  17. As someone who is taking M1,4ADD 10mg a day won't cut it. But what would I know.

  18. Oh ya yesterday was a new personla best for me on incline bench. 265X1. Not much to the big guys here, but for my weight, I was happy with it.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by WATERLOGGED
    i ifgure the liver tox. is going to be issues with trying to stack methyls, but maybe if we use lower/ higher dosage on one or the other, for instance m1,4add use a lower dose and even a lower dose of say m1t or maybe if sledge might have a plans for an im ,without the "m" o'course
    I think I'm going to try 5mg M1T with 20mg M1.4ad.

    And transdermal TNE.

    And maybe IM 4ad Prop.

    Anybody think I will gain any weight?

    I am a 50 year-old type 2 diabetic who has difficulty gaining because I can't eat lots of carbs or my blood sugar gets out of control. When I do any androgens my insulin resistance seems to decrease as I can eat more carbs and still get lower blood sugar that what is "normal" for me on about 120G carbs per day.

    I digress. Sorry Sifu for cluttering up your cycle log!

    Greenguy
    Last edited by Greenguy; 01-16-2004 at 12:39 PM. Reason: Spelling

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Greenguy
    I think I'm going to try 5mg M1T with 20mg M1.4ad.

    And transdermal TNE.

    And maybe IM 4ad Prop.

    Anybody think I will gain any weight?

    I am a 50 year-old type 2 diabetic who has difficulty gaining because I can't eat lots of carbs or my blood sugar gets out of control. When I do any androgens my insulin resistance seems to decrease as I can eat more carbs and still get lower blood sugar that what is "normal" for me on about 120G carbs per day.

    I digress. Sorry Sifu for cluttering up your cycle log!

    Greenguy
    CHeck w/ your doctor first bro, don't go jumping into anything and take a members word here as gospel. If I were you, I wouldn't even think about it, but you're not me so ask a doc first.

  21. Of course if you feel uncomfortable talking to the doctor about Methylated and IM products you could always just ask about the lesser versions, i.e. 1T and 4AD.

  22. and if he says yes to the lesser versions does that help him with methylated and im products? NO, just ask the doc the truth, they aren't the supplement police

  23. It will help out, but how much it will help out is debatable. I'm just saying that it is better to ask something then to not ask anything at all. If I go to my doctor and say, "Doc, I was thinking of doing a cycle of M1T. What do you think?" I doubt he'll tell me that I should dose at X mg everyday. Then again if I go and tell him I wanted to take some mild/strong androgenic compounds he might be able to offer some better advice. I'm not trying to be argumentative and regardless what 2gcorey and I think, you (greanguy) should get some professional advice because diabetes is nothing to toy around with.

    Edited: Ops yeah, sorry about the Sifu. We should probably end this line of conversation and let the M1,4AD testers continue with the log.

  24. he'll say he doesn't know enough about it, which is true. do you think any methyl substance has been tested out on people with diseases or problems? doctor would probably give a very honest answer of "i wouldn't try it, but if you want to be the first guinea pig then go for it". if everyone says a methyl substance is so much diff then a normal one, why ask about something so much less toxic, anabolic, etc?

    if nobody on here fully knows what these things do, why even ask a doc, he's probably never heard of it and will advice you to play it safe which most people in here would probably do the same. on a normal person we don't know it all, now toss in other health problems? just my opinion but gimme a break...its russion roulette either way, you play or you don't

  25. I don't mind you guys. But I myself don't trust medical doctors for ****. I work in a hospital, and that is part of the reason. I trust Chinese medicine and that is about it.
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