why??You're going to be feeling pretty shitty by about week 5. I wish you luck though!
any sides at 60?I felt like **** by the end of week 5. I just didn't feel right so I stopped. I was dosing all the way up to 60mg though...
Yea. Higher than average BP. Crappy Libido, I could still get it up, but it would be a marathon to finish. Lethargy.any sides at 60?
Eh, it was my first cycle and I cycled high. I had great results from it. Definately will run it again in the future. Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of epi... I just took it too far for my own situation. You have to be responsible for yourself, and I learned the harder way. At least I did my PCT correctly and wound up 10lbs heavier and a whole lot stronger.Damn... it makes me feel GREAT all the way through my 8 week cycles.
Adams
For me the weight gain stopped around week 5. I can't remember if I was still making strength gains... you could read my log for the long drawn out story... but the gist of it is I think a lower dose would have been a better idea for 6 weeks. 50mg was perfect for me... 60 was too much. It was my first real steroid cycle though. I might have been over reacting, or just having a bad afternoon, but I felt crappy enough one afternoon at the end of week 5 to stop.GMG760 did you notice any gains in week 5 and 6? :good:
oh boyI went up to 50 for the last week of a 4 weeker. I only put on 4-5 lbs total but strength went up a lot. I know others w/similar experiences so not everyone piles on the weight w/ epi.
Okay well I'm going to suspect your diet is the problem until you can provide some evidence to the contrary.i dont count. but i eat alot. its def over 4k.. i take 4shakes a day with 60grams of protein and with wms
I did switch protein to ON whey to true protein whey/maltoOkay well I'm going to suspect your diet is the problem until you can provide some evidence to the contrary.
You still running Mdrol as well?i will polly drop a few pct goodies and only use nolva
does nolva go bad?
Jesus dude. You drinking caffeine while you are on cycle? You dosing HB correctly? 177 is way too high. Anything over 140 IMO you should start worrying. 120/80 is good.BP was 177/87
YEA. BEEN drinkingg monsterSJesus dude. You drinking caffeine while you are on cycle? You dosing HB correctly? 177 is way too high. Anything over 140 IMO you should start worrying. 120/80 is good.
You gotta cut that sh*t out dude. No more caffeine at all. Caffeine and Epi is what made me stop my cycle. That BP is WAAAAY to high homie... we are talking nosebleed high...YEA. BEEN drinkingg monsterS
no bleeds it was 155/84 nowYou gotta cut that sh*t out dude. No more caffeine at all. Caffeine and Epi is what made me stop my cycle. That BP is WAAAAY to high homie... we are talking nosebleed high...
That's still too high bro, you are gonna do damage to your body... get that number under 140.no bleeds it was 155/84 now
WHAT WEEK DO GAINS COME? MAYBE IM JUST OVERTHINKING. IM GOIN TO STEP ON THE SCALE TONITE
BP was 177/87
it was 138/74 toniteThat's still too high bro, you are gonna do damage to your body... get that number under 140.
im getting at least 200grams of preotein from shakes ALONE... i heard epi is iffy,,, but either way 3 weeks left of epiI'm 2 weeks into a pulse (just got to 30mg), and I'm noticing some solid and steady gains. You are dosing higher and more often than I am, so I would suspect your diet or training needs to be tweaked.
im getting at least 200grams of preotein from shakes ALONE... i heard epi is iffy,,, but either way 3 weeks left of epi
it was 138/74 tonite
each meal has roughly 8oz of meat, i do drink a ton of milk at least 2 gallons a day, brown rice and WMS are my carbs choices and sometimes i will have white rice or a white pots for breakfast and or post.That is a start, but what else does your diet consist of? Someone telling me they get 200g protein from shakes doesn't instantly make me think they're doing all the right things. I'm getting in around 450g protein per day, and around 225g of it is from whey and casein. But I'm also eating a lot of meat, cheese, eggs, and drinking about a gallon of milk a day. Even if I told someone that, they wouldn't know **** about my diet because protein is only part of it...
What are your carbs and fats like? What sources are they coming from? Are you using complex carbs mainly? How about post-workout?
Where did you hear Epi was "iffy"? I've seen almost all positive reviews for it.
i hAVE A ENUFF GAs to power a small car.. but i meant 2gallons a week at least..wow. 2 gallons of milk a day? I would have the worst gas ever. that's some dedication.
OH yeah.I am prepping for my epi cycle, should I stop taking pre supps like rpm or jp8, drive while cycling?
Yea dude, unless you want bp readings of 178/80 like our friend Brolic here, I suggest you ditch the caffeine altogether on cycle.I am prepping for my epi cycle, should I stop taking pre supps like rpm or jp8, drive while cycling?
Yes. IBE makes Epistane. Which is the same thing as RPN's Havoc, which is the same as CEL's E-Stane.Hey guys just to be sure I am not getting the wrong thing, the epi you guys are referring to, is the one on NP in the black and green label by iBE? Oh BTW, it's on sale now for 25.99.
x2Yes. IBE makes Epistane. Which is the same thing as RPN's Havoc, which is the same as CEL's E-Stane.
I ran IBE's Epistane, and Generic Labs Epithin-E.
I reccommend IBE, RPN, and CEL as companies to trust as far as their Epi product goes. All the companies have good reps on the board. CEL has Ziqour, IBE has Poopypants, and RPN have Dsade and Crader. All great people, and great to ask more detailed questions to.
i agreeYea dude, unless you want bp readings of 178/80 like our friend Brolic here, I suggest you ditch the caffeine altogether on cycle.
thank u... bro. thanks alot...Thanks guys, I am going to buy it NOW while the price is low. Good luck on your cycle Brolic.
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