Primordial Performance Presents: Superdrone-LV!
- 02-16-2010, 12:23 PM
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- 02-16-2010, 12:42 PM
^^tru...cycles in general are not cheap, well...you can go cheap, but you will pay in the long run....but I see PP as the cadi of supps right now..that's just my own personal opinion
02-16-2010, 12:50 PM
Thanks peoples just trying to do things right this go round. Did a tren/epi stack and didn't follow through like i should of had and things got bad, so i don't ever want to go that route again. But couldn't aggree with you more CopyCat as far as paying to take care of your body after doing something potentially harmfull thing to it. Thanks again guys
02-16-2010, 01:05 PM
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If not I might need to place an order!
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02-16-2010, 07:42 PM
One more quick question. On a 3 week, 10/10/20 cycle of this, when do you expect to start seeing significant gains? I imagine it is pretty fast acting to recommend a 3-week cycle (+ PCT of course).
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02-17-2010, 08:48 PM
Just received my bottle today had a few question:
1 the bottle says "do not exceed 3ml in a 24 hour period but most cycles I see people are talking about taking 10 top 20 ML a day.
Also how long should I take Liver juice and cycle support before I can start to take SD I am excited.
The cycle I found is this:
Weeks 1-5: Liver Juice / AI Cycle support <-- is this saying start sd on the second week or can I start right away?
Weeks 2-4: SD 10/20/20 <-- is this to much for a newbe
Weeks 5-8: TRS / Clomid or Torem <-- Can I just run Tamoxifene Citrate and cycle support + maybe more liver juice and do I really need anything for hair loss?
I Dont have any TRS or Clomit but I have something called Tamoxifene Citrate since I am new to this I was not sure if even going up to 20 is such a good idea.
02-17-2010, 08:59 PM
02-17-2010, 09:17 PM
thanks man I probably would have filled it up to its 3.0ml mark and had that a few times a day haha. but really I just need 1.0 ml a day for the first week and possibly 2.0 ml later in the cycle.
I was also thinking about getting some of this: NSI Tocomin SupraBio Palm Tocotrienol Complex -- 60 mg - 60 Softgels instead of the Toco product by Primordial at 13.77 a bottle allot cheaper then 44ish range.
02-17-2010, 09:27 PM
Just like Kevin said...1cc = 1ml = 10mg of SD.
If this is your first SD cycle, I would suggest keeping at 10/10/10...you will definetly get good gains at this dosage and then maybe later on down the road for your second cycle (which will be the same bottle ) you can do 10/20/20 since you will now know how SD effects your body.
Tamoxifene Citrate is fine to run along side the TRS, just keep the dose of the tamox at 10mg ed for all 4wks of your pct.
I would also suggest, if you can...getting bloodwork before your cycle (baseline) and 4-6wks after your pct to see if you're back to baseline....now your gtg mang, good luck!
02-17-2010, 10:55 PM
Thanks and yes this is my first time cycling anything, so 10/10/10 sounds good to me. Blood work what type of blood work just testosterone levels?
TRS looks exensive and allot of people suggest TOREM over TRS so that might be the way to go - not sure how to get it though
02-18-2010, 01:04 AM
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02-18-2010, 10:45 AM
As for the bloodwork...get a full hormone profile or try private md labs dot com and get the hormone panel for females...cheaper than any other test and it will test what you need for any cycle
google research chems...that should help you out
02-18-2010, 02:24 PM
Torem + TRS is ideal, but you can substitute things for certain TRS components if desired. The point is that you need something for estrogen control and HPTA recovery (SERM, TRS, or both), and you need something for cortisol control at a minimum as well (endoamp comes with TRS; there are other options too). The last piece is starting to repair the damage done on cycle which is mainly liver and cholesterol related.
02-18-2010, 02:35 PM
02-18-2010, 08:21 PM
02-18-2010, 08:27 PM
If everyone thinks that I need TRS and that Tamox or Torem and Liver Juice along with Cycle support is not enough I will get the rest of the stuff - This is my first cycle and would rather not lose all my gains do to me not wanting to spend the extra $. I was readying on other forums though that TRS is an expensive marketing gimick. If anyone has any other ideas of stuff I can use instead that should work just as well please let me know.
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