[jamesatba]

i'm going to try and explain what i know about
Agmatine in layman's terms.it's most likely not good for the pump.it MAY alter your mind in some way.it also may increase hormone levels(get you jacked).it also likely has some effect on your heart

[ReaperX]

bunit-


Here is an article that was written last year in regards to it. That should be pretty straight forward to understand.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tallon9.htm


IMO, there seems to be better alternatives to using this as a supplement. I think MAN Sports is the only one selling it as one. I remember hearing about it being sold last year or so, but I never really entertained the idea of actually buying it.

[ReaperX]

Awhile back, I looked up some studies online with it and read a few with mouses being used. I'm sure if I looked more there might be some with human studies.

Since it is binds to the α2-adrenergic receptor, it causes vasoconstriction, according to science.

This was one of the reasons why I disreguarded agmatine use.


I'm not claiming to be an expert/guru/wizard/wiseman/chosen one/etc..... on the issue. Just stating my opinion about it.

[pistonpump]

mice reaper, mice....

[ReaperX]

i don't know how I let that one slip by me.

[pistonpump]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

i don't know how I let that one slip by me.

me neither.

[jamesatba]

i just weighted,223!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did drink milk in the last three or four days,which i normally don't,since sometimes i think i'm lactose int.could be a bunch of water gain then.did feel like i had a bad case of bloat.training going well.go new protien called 2-1-1 from ON.wazy maze in it hit me hard.

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by jamesatba

i just weighted,223!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did drink milk in the last three or four days,which i normally don't,since sometimes i think i'm lactose int.could be a bunch of water gain then.did feel like i had a bad case of bloat.training going well.go new protien called 2-1-1 from ON.wazy maze in it hit me hard.

hmmm so its got waxy maize already in it? only for post workout then i take it....might have to take a look.

[b unit]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

Awhile back, I looked up some studies online with it and read a few with mouses being used. I'm sure if I looked more there might be some with human studies.

Since it is binds to the α2-adrenergic receptor, it causes vasoconstriction, according to science.

This was one of the reasons why I disreguarded agmatine use.


I'm not claiming to be an expert/guru/wizard/wiseman/chosen one/etc..... on the issue. Just stating my opinion about it.

cheers reaper, it's good to know that between u and guru, no question goes unanswered!

[b unit]

Originally Posted by jamesatba

i just weighted,223!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did drink milk in the last three or four days,which i normally don't,since sometimes i think i'm lactose int.could be a bunch of water gain then.did feel like i had a bad case of bloat.training going well.go new protien called 2-1-1 from ON.wazy maze in it hit me hard.

congrats james, u succeeded your goal of 220,

where to from here?

cheers

[goslamacamel]

Originally Posted by b unit

cheers reaper, it's good to know that between u and guru, no question goes unanswered!

Too bad it's only the Guru's answers anyone cares about.

[Dogsoldier]

Oh Great Guru,

Oh screw that...

James, If the waxy maze is messing you up, eat oatmeal or brown rice as your carb source. Throwing in some blueberries, raspberry's or cinnamon helps with the blandness of both. Plus the berries and cinnamom have other health benefits.

Waxy maze did not agree with me either.

[pistonpump]

Originally Posted by goslamacamel

Too bad it's only the Guru's answers anyone cares about.

[bkoguy07]

Originally Posted by goslamacamel

Too bad it's only the Guru's answers anyone cares about.

True

[jamesatba]

i posted a video on youtube yesterday,but i wasn't able to link it to anabolicminds(lack of time)but feel free to check it out on youtube.as too where i'm going from here i'm probably still going to bulk,just slower for a little while hopefully.i do like 2-1-1 thought.