Ever tried dead lifting after squats?

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  1. Ever tried dead lifting after squats?


    Has anyone ever tried doing dead lifts after wasting your legs on squats?

    I tried it the other day and gotta say... what a pain in the ass - I'm not doing it again!

    when it came to the dead lifts I just could not be f'd.

    Honestly, if you do this, then hats off. I'm not hardcore enough for it.

    lol...


  2. I used to do this and it would tear me up real nice but I just decided to split my deads and squats up.
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  3. Really don't see the point in doing this.

  4. I used to but they get in the way with each other and I separate them

    Squats - M,F

    DL - W

  5. Yeah, I can't see the point in doing both the same day, even day after. I would split them up at least 2 days apart. First, they together are to hard on the back. Second, they are the top exercises for releasing growth hormone in your body,... splitting them means more gh to go around!!!
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  6. Not exactly a recipe for success, I would space them as far apart as possible unless your doing higher rep stuff and even then it would be far from optimal. Certainly hope you aren't trying ME (Max Effort) with these two back to back. I always save both movements for the end of my workout, after those two I am always trashed.

  7. Every tuesday..........I do squats(my buddy wont) then we do deads together.....

    I hit squats hard.

    His DL's are light so i just do what he does........185 or so.

    My legs are torched.........

    I have almost passed out, puked and hyperventilated.

    I must admit my legs and back have seen gains.

    I have used "starting strength" with success as well...........MWF, ABA then BAB and so on.

    Workout A

    * Squats: 3 x 5
    * Bench Press: 3 x 5
    * Deadlift: 1 x 5
    * Dips (weighted): 2 x 5-8

    Workout B

    * Squats: 3 x 5
    * Press: 3 x 5
    * Power Clean: 3 x 5
    * Chin-ups: 3 x 8

    Every Workout / Assistance Work

    * Weighted Sit-ups at a 45 degree angle on decline bench: 3 x 5
    * Weighted Hyper-extensions: 3 x 8


    Deads and Squats together ARE NOT too much if caloric intake and rest are on par.

  8. it depends on what your trying to work, I actually include heavy romanian deads(straight leg) in my leg workouts quite a bit, it is a great hit on my hams and also helps add to the muscle density in the lower back. but if you are doing heavy squats and then finishing off your legs just to go on to deadlifts and huck weight around for the soul purpose of working your back, then you are working the two largest muscle groups in the body, and it might be a little contradicting, you should have a good two days in between
    ~Yoked

  9. Quote Originally Posted by yoked317 View Post
    it depends on what your trying to work, I actually include heavy romanian deads(straight leg) in my leg workouts quite a bit, it is a great hit on my hams and also helps add to the muscle density in the lower back. but if you are doing heavy squats and then finishing off your legs just to go on to deadlifts and huck weight around for the soul purpose of working your back, then you are working the two largest muscle groups in the body, and it might be a little contradicting, you should have a good two days in between
    ~Yoked
    Yeah, maybe Romanian deads to finish off your hams - but not the full-blown version.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by yoked317 View Post
    it depends on what your trying to work, I actually include heavy romanian deads(straight leg) in my leg workouts quite a bit, it is a great hit on my hams and also helps add to the muscle density in the lower back. but if you are doing heavy squats and then finishing off your legs just to go on to deadlifts and huck weight around for the soul purpose of working your back, then you are working the two largest muscle groups in the body, and it might be a little contradicting, you should have a good two days in between
    ~Yoked
    RDL is a staple in my leg workout, best hammy workout IMO. I used to do deadlifts after legs for about a month but when i split them up I see much better strength gains on my deads.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by joelast View Post
    RDL is a staple in my leg workout, best hammy workout IMO. I used to do deadlifts after legs for about a month but when i split them up I see much better strength gains on my deads.
    Good Mornings s/set with RDL work pretty well.

  12. Squats and deadlifts are usually the centerpieces of my legs and back routines, respectively. There's no way I'd do them both on the same day!

  13. [QUOTE=soseg;1670301]Has anyone ever tried doing dead lifts after wasting your legs on squats?

    I tried it the other day and gotta say... what a pain in the ass - I'm not doing it again!

    when it came to the dead lifts I just could not be f'd.

    Honestly, if you do this, then hats off. I'm not hardcore enough for it.

    lol...[/QUOTE


    That including some calf raises is typically my leg rountine. I bang out about 6 sets of squats at various weight and repititions for each set and then finish off the workout with 3-4 sets of deadlifts at about 8 reps each set. This is a gruelling workout!!!! and I am typically sore from my legs for the following 3-4 days, depending on the intensity sometimes I can barely walk the next day. But I have seen tremendous gains since I started doing this back in March. Back then I was regularly squatting 205 or now I regularly squatting 315 or so. I know those are super impressive numbers but I am not a very big guy ( 5'7 160lbs)

  14. yeah. that's really fun. i don't do them in the same superset though, because THAT is way too hard for me. if you check dragonfly's log, she does squats/deads in the same superset.

    i would suggest she is much more hardcore than you of course, that makes her more hardcore than me

  15. I don't think I've ever done them together, unless I was trying to do a whole-body routine to blast my metabolism and went lighter on both. Today I just deadlifts + Clean & Press and it took it right out of me!

  16. steveoph, deads and C&P are pretty brutal as well. possibly harder.

    if you were crazy enough to do a HIIT style workout, then do a finishing superset of "overhead squats" and C&P, you can almost FEEL the rush of growth hormone kicking in. it kicks in by getting all the food out of your stomach

  17. Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    steveoph, deads and C&P are pretty brutal as well. possibly harder.

    if you were crazy enough to do a HIIT style workout, then do a finishing superset of "overhead squats" and C&P, you can almost FEEL the rush of growth hormone kicking in. it kicks in by getting all the food out of your stomach
    I couldn't complete my HIIT sprints afterwards lol. I got the first 4 done, 5th my legs just couldn't sprint lol, kept at a slow pace for 4 minutes then was spent. I took 2 LR & 2 DCP before the workouts though, and I was sweating so hard my eyes were burning lol. Hell I was sweatier than almost everyone else before I even got one the elliptical!

    For the clean & press, I was trying a rep-pause-rep method. I just started cleans 2 weeks ago, but I put on a weight I find pretty heavy right now, and would do a rep every 10s. My back is quite sore, I'm curious how the DOMS will be tomorrow lol.

  18. Squats and deads in the same workout aren't uncommon for anyone who follows powerlifting routines. Now I wouldn't go and do a lot of volume on both but it is pretty routine for me to work up to a max single in one and then a few sets of 5 with the other. Speed days will commonly consist of speed squats followed by speed pulls too, again not really overdoing it on each though. I will suggest if you are doing deadlifts after squats though that you change the range of motion on them so you are either pulling a lighter weight from a deficit or a heavier than normal weight from the rack or blocks so that you have a short ROM.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I couldn't complete my HIIT sprints afterwards lol. I got the first 4 done, 5th my legs just couldn't sprint lol, kept at a slow pace for 4 minutes then was spent. I took 2 LR & 2 DCP before the workouts though, and I was sweating so hard my eyes were burning lol. Hell I was sweatier than almost everyone else before I even got one the elliptical!

    For the clean & press, I was trying a rep-pause-rep method. I just started cleans 2 weeks ago, but I put on a weight I find pretty heavy right now, and would do a rep every 10s. My back is quite sore, I'm curious how the DOMS will be tomorrow lol.
    man... DOMS is gonna beat you down. something which might make the DOMS more bearable, is to go back to the gym and do squats/C&P with 1st warmup set weight. 10 reps, then get in the sauna/hot tub. that should get some more blood flowing in there, which will cut the DOMS down quite a lot. standard post workout shake after. you should notice the difference almost immediately

  20. I used to, after doing super-slow (5-3-5) or high rep (>20) squats (but not done that since May 2006)

    Now I just superset squats with romanian deadlifts (if I do legwork). But focus for my legs has never been on gaining mass.

    Whatever works for each individual. And depends on what you're trying to do.
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  21. haha
    i was just asking but look at the response...
    i tried it once and it was HELL

    hmm its got me thinking

    i do back on mondays and legs wed and shoulders/arms fridays

    im thinking after reading some posts to throw legs into thursdays and have a 2 day break between back and legs... with no break between legs and arms/shoulders (should be fine) ???

    i prefer doing my big heavy compound workouts at the start when i feel i have the energy for them

  22. Well me and a buddy are training for a power lifting comp, and the coach has us squat, deadlift, and highpull all on the same day (thursdays). Seems to be working wonders for my leg power. We train legs twice a week, mondays and thurdays. mondays we hang clean, squat, and do dumbell step ups with plyo's.

  23. Yeah I was doing 5x5 squats, then 5x5 deads right after on bill stars 5x5 I got strong as hell and my legs blew up to be honest, however i've barfed a few times :P

  24. i did 5x5 on deads last night. no way i would have been able to do squats after that. i was toast!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by james1 View Post
    Well me and a buddy are training for a power lifting comp, and the coach has us squat, deadlift, and highpull all on the same day (thursdays). Seems to be working wonders for my leg power. We train legs twice a week, mondays and thurdays. mondays we hang clean, squat, and do dumbell step ups with plyo's.
    I have really been entertaining the idea of doing deads/squats with a 5x5 program twice a week. 3-4 day rest.

  26. I do stiff legged deads on leg day along with squats. I don't do them right after squats though. I usually throw calves in between them. Stiff legged deads are great for overall hamstring development.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Aggravated View Post
    I do stiff legged deads on leg day along with squats. I don't do them right after squats though. I usually throw calves in between them. Stiff legged deads are great for overall hamstring development.
    I do this as well and usally one right after the other, But doing a full DL involves much more quads and is much more taxing that Straight leg DL's.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by joelast View Post
    I do this as well and usally one right after the other, But doing a full DL involves much more quads and is much more taxing that Straight leg DL's.
    There is no way I would ever consider actual deadlifts on leg day. That is too big of a muscle to train with your legs. You would sacrifice some oomph as well.

  29. i did them on the same day for about 6 months till i got rewarded with a herniated disc in my lower back. now i am one of those people with chronic back problems who cant sit or drive for extended periods.

    correct form? yes
    too heavy? heavy enough to do 8-10reps.

    the pressure you put on your discs take a toll after a while.

  30. Squats and deadlifts are two of the most taxing exercises you can attempt, so why would you even want to try both of them in one workout? I say, spread it around a little bit so you can go at it with maximum intensity.
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