BPS' What's improved with the upcoming DHEA transdermal

[antknee02]

awesome info here-really liking this thread..if BPS actually improves on PP's derma AND the cost is reasonable, as a guy over 40, you'll have me for life, lol..

[jwa254]

awesome info here-really liking this thread..if BPS actually improves on PP's derma AND the cost is reasonable, as a guy over 40, you'll have me for life, lol..

Don't worry. We'll be gentle.

[Ape McGrapes]

Just give us 8 weeks of product. DHEA is dirt cheap as SD has said. Unless your adding in other significant ingredients, that would warant the price.

[Resolve]

None of us have seen the new formula yet, but from what I understand, there will be some 'additions'.

[JD261985]

Umm yea so where the hell is it? Why can't I find one dermacrine product anywhere?

[stankyleg]

When will the ingredients of the BPS product be released? I'm interested.

[MrKleen73]

I agree, back on track. PP is a well respected company and we don't want any negative talk about them in here.

SourDough, this new product will be better than you expect because BPS is formulating it. Certainly BPS liked the Dermacrine which is why they licensed the use of it. However BPS decided to come out with something that the owners of BPS feel is much improved. BPS does not put out undue hype on their products they put science to the test and come out with Performance Solutions.

[metroba]

Just give us 8 weeks of product. DHEA is dirt cheap as SD has said. Unless your adding in other significant ingredients, that would warant the price.

There will be 60 servings. I can tell you that much.

[metroba]

When will the ingredients of the BPS product be released? I'm interested.

Very soon. Currently Vanillean is the product due to release first so this will be next.

Umm yea so where the hell is it? Why can't I find one dermacrine product anywhere?

Dermacrine is no longer licensed by BPS.

None of us have seen the new formula yet, but from what I understand, there will be some 'additions'.

It's not so much additions as it is a completely different formula.

[MrKleen73]

Just give us 8 weeks of product. DHEA is dirt cheap as SD has said. Unless your adding in other significant ingredients, that would warant the price.

BPS products are notoriously well priced. Why they should supply 8 weeks in a bottle when use of 4-6 is what is recommended is beyond me. Unless trying to stick it to a competitor by making something as a slap in the face instead of intending to make profit off of it. Besides you have to consider other things in price like labeling, manufacturing, marketing costs, the need to make a profit. Not to mention you are paying for the convenience of not having to get the ingredients to make your own transdermal solution, and sourcing the raws, measuring it all out accurately and creating your own solution. That could take some time and annoyance. If I spend 2 hours of my time making a "$10.00 bottle of dhea transdermal" at my hourly wages I just spent a whole lot more than what is being charged for most products. Not to mention my personal time is more valuable to me than my work hours. You can't just add up the cost of raws and say this is all that the product is worth spending and anything else is overcharging for it. If that were the case then you would not be looking for a product but but instead creating your own. Certainly we all want a good deal but I think we can all agree that BPS keeps their prices more than reasonable for their products. They do not over inflate them nor under dose them.

Umm yea so where the hell is it? Why can't I find one dermacrine product anywhere?

Not sure where any Dermacrine is for sale. We no longer carry it in our line. This product is still in the process of creation / manufacturing.

When will the ingredients of the BPS product be released? I'm interested.

I don't think it will be too long from what I understand but BPS or Metroba can shed more light on that subject. Also Like us on Facebook BulkPerformanceSolutions-BPS lots of the trickle down information is posted out there before it hits the forums.

[Ape McGrapes]

4 weeks falls short for most suppliments. Some don't even get in full swing till then. 6 weeks and you will need two bottles. Why should one have to buy 2 bottles?

Dermacrine, though I loved it, was way over priced IMO. When PP switched cariers it jumped $10 in price. At almost $50 a bottle we should have gotten twice The servings. Instead we got 23 servings at the recomended dose. That's not even a 4 week supply, let alone a full month.

$50 for 23 servings is over priced IMHO, and this is is nothing against BPS or PP. I felt this way before it was licensed to you guys.

I'm glad to hear it will have 60 servings. Just hope 2 doses a day isn't recommended. Though with the 24h time release of transdermals, that would be pointless; right?

[Sourdough]

I agree, back on track. PP is a well respected company and we don't want any negative talk about them in here.

SourDough, this new product will be better than you expect because BPS is formulating it. Certainly BPS liked the Dermacrine which is why they licensed the use of it. However BPS decided to come out with something that the owners of BPS feel is much improved. BPS does not put out undue hype on their products they put science to the test and come out with Performance Solutions.

I am certainly excited and looking forward to it and interested in the reasoning behind the end formulation just as much.

Can't wait bro.

[thebigt]

this is becoming my favorite thread to read everyday....great info, and i love the fact that transdermals are still viable from a few top notch companies like bps-keep them td's coming!!!!

[MrKleen73]

4 weeks falls short for most suppliments. Some don't even get in full swing till then. 6 weeks and you will need two bottles. Why should one have to buy 2 bottles?

Dermacrine, though I loved it, was way over priced IMO. When PP switched cariers it jumped $10 in price. At almost $50 a bottle we should have gotten twice The servings. Instead we got 23 servings at the recommended dose. That's not even a 4 week supply, let alone a full month.

$50 for 23 servings is over priced IMHO, and this is is nothing against BPS or PP. I felt this way before it was licensed to you guys.

I'm glad to hear it will have 60 servings. Just hope 2 doses a day isn't recommended. Though with the 24h time release of transdermals, that would be pointless; right?

Well I have to say Ape, I have never actually seen the BPS version of Dermacrine priced over $39.99 at any major online retailer, and quite often the sales on it went down to $29.99 one of the reasons that BPS chose to license it was they could actually market and sell it for a bit cheaper than the $50 price tag and still have a nice profit margin. Certainly one can state that 23 doses in a bottle for $50 is not the best deal in town. Once could also say that someone who came along bought the license and chose to make $10.00 less per bottle for the same thing that consumers were more than willing to pay the extra $10.00 for was not being greedy but actually giving the consumers a break while also making the most out of capitalist IE... profit based market. Keep in mind they had to pay to license the product not just take the raws and put them in a bottle. So that in and of itself dictates some of the price and still there was a discounted price from the beginning of BPS re-releasing the product.

Now to be honest, I can not think of any company barring one that was trying to strike back at PP rather than make money make a product that can be run for 2 months and sell it for the price of one months worth of product. Certainly their are others that sell 2 months worth in one bottle, and charge the same as two bottles worth of product. Bottom line is is you want 2 months worth of product or to take 2 months worth of product in 4-6 weeks then you purchase a second bottle. Why should you have to, because this is a profit driven market and that is how business is done. You also often see BPS creat SKU's for stacks where you can get stacks with multiple bottles for discounts for the very reason you are talking about. So rather than get into semantics about why you feel that there should be 2 months worth in a bottle lets look at the fact that BPS automatically saved you $20.00 for that same 6.5 week cycle simply by choosing to have lower base prices and not price gouge. On top of that in many of the sales the price was dropped another $20.00 saving you $40 total effectively changing the ending cost of the second bottle at the original price to $10.00.

My point is that expecting 2 months worth of product in one bottle for much less than the price of 2 months of the same product in two containers is just not how things are done in this market. It is not the norm nor is it profitable to an acceptable margin to businesses investors. Profit margins have to be attractive to business investors if you expect to get the capital to research and develop more innovative products and or have enough of those products in stock to satisfy the needs or demands.

That being said BPS keeps the cost per unit down and even lowered the cost per unit upon purchasing the license for Dermacrine. So everyone join in now in saying it BPS FUGGIN ROCKS!!!!

PS. I too would love 8 weeks in a bottle for a low price. I just don't expect it so I am not blasting you at all Ape.

[Sourdough]

btw... when i was bringing up price points and cost of materials... it certainly was in scrutiny of any company providing market prepared products at price points less then 50 bucks... i wouldn't even scrutinize any products with price points upwards to 70 bucks if the innovation and uniqueness was actually worth paying for considering the costs that go into r and d...

But anything beyond is just price gouging and ridiculous and won't ever see my money spent on them when i can buy multiples of other products n just stock up.

Now considering this... i hope I'm not paying 70 bucks to try out the next bps product, but I'm also hoping that there will be something in it worthwhile shelling out money for in the first place.

[thebigt]

I am certainly excited and looking forward to it and interested in the reasoning behind the end formulation just as much.

Can't wait bro.

x2!!!!

question for ya...if i apply androgel to shoulders in am, can i apply dermacrine to shoulders 12-14 hours later? how would/or would it?-effect absorption of either/or both?

[Sourdough]

x2!!!!

question for ya...if i apply androgel to shoulders in am, can i apply dermacrine to shoulders 12-14 hours later? how would/or would it?-effect absorption of either/or both?

i think you'll be fine.

Most td solutions are suggested to be applied in 2 separate applications. I would always make your first application the Androgel, applied after taking a shower when the skin is clean and pores are open(scrubbing/exfoliating the application site is wise). The second application of the dermacrine can be done on the exact same site, but honestly i think applying to the backs of your calves, inner thigh, backs of knees are all just fine sites of application.

I've even thought to myself about the fact there is typically residue still left from the initial application of most compounds and a second application may help push that residue through as well.

[metroba]

btw... when i was bringing up price points and cost of materials... it certainly was in scrutiny of any company providing market prepared products at price points less then 50 bucks... i wouldn't even scrutinize any products with price points upwards to 70 bucks if the innovation and uniqueness was actually worth paying for considering the costs that go into r and d...

But anything beyond is just price gouging and ridiculous and won't ever see my money spent on them when i can buy multiples of other products n just stock up.

Now considering this... i hope I'm not paying 70 bucks to try out the next bps product, but I'm also hoping that there will be something in it worthwhile shelling out money for in the first place.

Price will not be far off from OG Derm.

[thebigt]

i think you'll be fine.

Most td solutions are suggested to be applied in 2 separate applications. I would always make your first application the Androgel, applied after taking a shower when the skin is clean and pores are open(scrubbing/exfoliating the application site is wise). The second application of the dermacrine can be done on the exact same site, but honestly i think applying to the backs of your calves, inner thigh, backs of knees are all just fine sites of application.

I've even thought to myself about the fact there is typically residue still left from the initial application of most compounds and a second application may help push that residue through as well.

this was my hope, in doing it this way-that the dermacrine might actually help increase the absorption rate of the androgel.....thanks!!!

[Geoforce]

BPS products are always reasonably priced. Some companies aren't and you have to almost sell a kidney to afford them. BPS is not one of those companies. I'm sure whatever ends up being in this it will be reasonably priced for what you're getting. They don't have the track record of anything else. Dermacrine was 30 bucks at NP just recently when they had it which is much cheaper than anyone else has ever offered it.