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  1. Quote Originally Posted by rob112 View Post
    ^^^luckily I got my bottles a couple weeks ago
    I knew I was getting some extra bucks for my bday (3-11) and as I was stoked to add (2) 2-packs of UR Spray, it said 'out of stock'. So, I went to get the 3-pack off 11KT, but it was out of stock, so I am using the extra funds to run 1000 mg of phosphatydilserine (from 10 grams of Serinaid 20%) per day for 8 weeks and 400mg of ubiquinol & 400mg ubiquinone per day for 8 weeks. I am getting the D-Spray & Pr Spray pack to replace Androdrive that I absolutely was bummed out for weeks that the FDA raided PP. I like the looks of D-Serine, but there's just not enough in-depth feedback from reviewers/loggers. I like Truthornothings results from d-serine, but I need more questions answered...
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    Amen. I like both companies and both deserve credit. Just wanted to make a point that PA is far from a "failure" or one hit wonder
    PA had this nitric oxide product called '1-NO' and it was a combination of some forms of ornithine and histidine (I think hcl and ethyl ester?). Man, I was on a low carb diet at the time and I took it preworkout for the first time and after warming up with 4 sets of bodyweight pullups, I had 3 gym acquaintences come up to me and ask me WTF I was taking. I was so pumped from the pullups that my biceps were going to rip my skin in half and I actually had to keep going from push : pull, in order to allow the swelling to atleast go from painful to insane.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both
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  4. Mucuna L-Dopa was around a long time btw
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    Mucuna L-Dopa was around a long time btw
    /popularized.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick View Post
    /popularized.

    It had pretty high popularity in the anti-aging industry.

    And bb'ers been using it with their GH for 20 years
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  7. Same with Rauwolscine. Avant brought that out in '04 (HEAT) and Matt Pearson has been putting it into products since then.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    PA brought/popularized:

    1,3D
    DAA
    COP
    Ursolic Acid

    USPLabs brought/popularized:

    Cissus
    Berberine
    Mucuna/L-dopa
    Rauwolscine


    Kudos to both

    thats argueable...he may have brought it to the market but he hardly popularized it, how many millions of ppl didn't know what it was until usplabs actually did popularize it

    pa can get credit for releasing it, but did nothing with it
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  9. BB/sports nutrition popularization of compositions is relative to itself in terms of 20 years

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    thats argueable...he may have brought it to the market but he hardly popularized it, how many millions of ppl didn't know what it was until usplabs actually did popularize it

    pa can get credit for releasing it, but did nothing with it
    I admit that I am not a good marketer. I dont invest in marketing I invest in R and D. And I dont have the stomach to do what it takes to popularize things with the masses
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  11. Honestly I don't see how ANYONE could argue against what PA has brought to the industry though. He might be the most innovative mind in the game over the last decade.

    Forget popularized, most of that has been marketing. If you're talking about people who brought new novel game changing ingredients, the conversation has to start with PA in the mix. Arguing otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.

    And that isn't a knock at what USP labs has done or their products, merely that I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
    This is truly the bottom line.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Honestly I don't see how ANYONE could argue against what PA has brought to the industry though. He might be the most innovative mind in the game over the last decade.

    Forget popularized, most of that has been marketing. If you're talking about people who brought new novel game changing ingredients, the conversation has to start with PA in the mix. Arguing otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.

    And that isn't a knock at what USP labs has done or their products, merely that I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
    i agree...whats he's brought to the supplement world as a "chemist" is unquestioned

    thats when my business backround takes over and i'm thinking well i spent all the time and energy into the substance, then it's time to get it out to the largest audience possible
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  14. There's one major difference in it of the way PA's companies are marketed and the way USP Labs is marketed, that I've noticed.
    Inner Circle (USP's 'early release' and beta efforts) vs. Prototype Nutrition (PA's beta products, etc) :
    1. Prototype Nutrition provides new products and the writeup consists of a short, straight-forward description of the ingredients efficacy, as found in research studies. Citations are provided to back the statements.
    2. The Inner Circle writeup has a multiple page storyline of something almost adventurous of a quest for just the right extract. This is followed by a timeline of how you should expect to feel (Day 11 - "Your muscles will swell like blimps and your concentration will hit redline!"). And in the end, it usually says that you can either stay on the product and keep making gains, or stop taking it and feel 'feeble' again. Citations are given for applications and efficacy of the herbs used.

    The marketing doesn't effect the product efficacy, as I have had good results with some and great results with a few (Camphibolic was a staple).
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post

    thats when my business backround takes over and i'm thinking well i spent all the time and energy into the substance, then it's time to get it out to the largest audience possible
    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    I dont have the stomach to do what it takes to popularize things with the masses...
    There you go monkey boy

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Honestly I don't see how ANYONE could argue against what PA has brought to the industry though. He might be the most innovative mind in the game over the last decade.

    Forget popularized, most of that has been marketing. If you're talking about people who brought new novel game changing ingredients, the conversation has to start with PA in the mix. Arguing otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.

    And that isn't a knock at what USP labs has done or their products, merely that I don't see how ANYONE could come to the conclusion that PA hasn't significantly influenced products maybe to a degree more than anyone else.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post
    There you go monkey boy
    yeah i saw it....which means theres no reason to say anything when someone makes millions off the product who markets it the right way...see page 1
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    someone makes millions off the product who markets it the right way...
    What is the proper definifion of marketing something the right way

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Ballesteri View Post
    What is the proper definifion of marketing something the right way

    catching the attention of the masses...anytime a company can take something thats been used and bring it to the attention to a wider audience, they are doing something right...i'm sure usplabs bank accounts reflect that at this point

    if PA isn't into doing that, then thats fine...it's his company to run how he pleases
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    catching the attention of the masses...anytime a company can take something thats been used and bring it to the attention to a wider audience, they are doing something right...i'm sure usplabs bank accounts reflect that at this point

    if PA isn't into doing that, then thats fine...it's his company to run how he pleases
    You might not be meaning to make it sound like this, but here's what it sounds like:

    "There is nothing wrong with lying or misleading consumers about the effects of your product if it makes you a lot of money."

    It's undeniable PA would sell more if he felt that way. PA is also one of the first people with his own products to tell you he doesn't know the answer to a question sometimes when asked instead of making up some hypothetical response.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    You might not be meaning to make it sound like this, but here's what it sounds like:

    "There is nothing wrong with lying or misleading consumers about the effects of your product if it makes you a lot of money."

    It's undeniable PA would sell more if he felt that way.

    i don't think they mislead anyone....they may fantasize things a bit but thats easily ignored into just picking up what the benefits of the supplements are....if they say laserlike focus...ok that means it will help increase focus, if they say blood gorging pumps then assume the product will help with increased pumps...simple as that

    every company does that...usplabs may do it to a bigger degree...but imo it doesn't bother me
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i don't think they mislead anyone....they may fantasize things a bit but thats easily ignored into just picking up what the benefits of the supplements are....if they say laserlike focus...ok that means it will help increase focus, if they say blood gorging pumps then assume the product will help with increased pumps...simple as that

    every company does that...usplabs may do it to a bigger degree...but imo it doesn't bother me
    Again, I was not singling them out or even mentioning them and I wish you wouldn't. I am not talking about USP labs and I haven't yet nor will I. I'm talking about PA.

    Some people in the industry don't have a problem with blatantly misleading claims about products. Most every company uses hyperbole to an extent, you essentially have to.

    PA probably uses both less than most any other person out there if at all. Does this cost him a significant amount of sales? Undoubtedly. Has this led to his discoveries making many other people huge bank? Undoubtedly. He has already admitted as such. But he flat told you why he doesn't do it. And I respect the hell out of it.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i agree...whats he's brought to the supplement world as a "chemist" is unquestioned

    "chemist"

    like i pretend?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    yeah i saw it....which means theres no reason to say anything when someone makes millions off the product who markets it the right way...see page 1
    The right way?The ends justify the means right? This is why I dont have the stomach. Because I have ethics, and I take science seriouslyGo make a million bucks if thats what is most important to you
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    The right way?The ends justify the means right? This is why I dont have the stomach. Because I have ethics, and I take science seriouslyGo make a million bucks if thats what is most important to you

    has nothing to do with having a stomach for something...if you can't market a product thats fine, you said it yourself that you can't, but you can't get mad when someone does it successfully and turns a massive profit off of it...you seem to get salty that usp labs was successful with jack3d or 1-3 dimeth, see page 1...thats all i'm saying, if you care about the science, thats fine and great..but don't say usp labs made millions with a product they stole...because that seems like you want the notoriety along with the money too

    at least thats how it came off to me, like your mad that usp was successful with something that you brought to the market
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