Can we stil lget ripped without drugs?

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  1. Can we stil lget ripped without drugs?


    Serious question - am i wasting my time?
    Ive been on a calorie deficite for a while now, training 3 times a week, weights.

    Talk about body dismorphia, Im so far away from anything youd find in a magasine - no abs, belly fay and sides i cant shift

    Despite training as hard as i can (cant lift anything, any more in a session) and watchign carefully what I eat, hitting macros and protein intake, im not looking like the adonis i want to.. not even close.

    Really starting to rack me off now! I'll keep going, keep trying but i feel like im wasting my time. Even ostarine sent my with high BP, so nothing is gonna help me


  2. You can certainly still lose fat, no matter what else is going on. If you're not, you're not trying hard enough / doing it wrong.

    Building muscle is clearly going to be more difficult, the older you get. Sucks. I gave up on staying natural; figured if I was going to kill myself in the gym 4-5 times a week (sometimes more) alongside everything else, then I should at least get to enjoy some progress.
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  3. Ever tried jump rope? 20-30 mins each day. Works very well for me when I'm on a cut. Sprints are also a great tool for shedding stubborn fat.

  4. You didn't say anything about cardio?

    Also there's a possibility that you are not eating enough and your metabolism has crawled to a standstill

  5. BTW, I'm 52. Yes I'm on drugs but it's not for fat burning puposes.

    Losing fat is the easy part. Putting on muscle is the hard part.
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  6. The most ripped I've ever been was drug free when I was boxing and doing minimal weights, nothing but bench squat chins and deadlifts. But boxing was 5 days a week, no running, just jumping rope, bags and sparing 2hours a day. Pretty sure your not gonna get ripped lifting 3x a week with nothing else

  7. By "drugs", does that include prohormones, or are you strictly talking about AAS?

  8. Prohormones are drugs buddy

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Smont View Post
    Prohormones are drugs buddy
    right on. true

  10. So i don't do prohormones or drugs, apart from trying Ostarine for 2 weeks and throwing the stuff away.

    Of course there's ripped and ripped, but naturally you can get to a decent condition with hard work, patience and consistency.

    This is just on a car washing day without any special prep, dieting or training beforehand
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by gaz7456 View Post
    So i don't do prohormones or drugs, apart from trying Ostarine for 2 weeks and throwing the stuff away.

    Of course there's ripped and ripped, but naturally you can get to a decent condition with hard work, patience and consistency.

    This is just on a car washing day without any special prep, dieting or training beforehand
    Nice bro, looking straight up beefy as hell. I would love to look like that and am working towards it

  12. Thanks buddy. It is definitely achievable. I have no special genes.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    Serious question - am i wasting my time?
    Ive been on a calorie deficite for a while now, training 3 times a week, weights.

    Talk about body dismorphia, Im so far away from anything youd find in a magasine - no abs, belly fay and sides i cant shift

    Despite training as hard as i can (cant lift anything, any more in a session) and watchign carefully what I eat, hitting macros and protein intake, im not looking like the adonis i want to.. not even close.

    Really starting to rack me off now! I'll keep going, keep trying but i feel like im wasting my time. Even ostarine sent my with high BP, so nothing is gonna help me
    It might be worth getting a hormone profile done. I was working with a guy that was putting in way too much effort for his results. I asked him a couple of questions and he had blood work done. His test levels were abysmal and he was a lifelong natural. Once he got on TRT things turned around for him. Yes he's on drugs but for a medical need.
    Lift heavy and eat lots of dead animals! Yes, that's me in my avatar.

  14. might be a good idea.

    suffering anxiety, belly fat, despite my diet being pretty damn good 95% of the time and working out hard, it could be im swimming upstream.

    Im in the uk, where can i get a profile? the docs? I can get online tesosterone tests

  15. I've the same problem mate, can never get rid of the bit of fat on my lower abs. I'm lean now but still have that soft look around my middle starting to wonder is it low test causing it. I'm in the uk as well but no idea how go to my dr about it.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Toff View Post
    Im in the uk, where can i get a profile? the docs? I can get online tesosterone tests
    I was pretty happy with the service from Medichecks. They have a range of hormone tests.

    If your doc will do them though, that's free and potentially more accurate (more accurate than a finger-prick test anyway). But it might depend on how good a doc you have - mine are ****ing useless.

  17. Well don't look at the people in magazine or social media. Find a program that you can stick to and maintain in your daily life. Fitness/working out is a part of your life don't let it consume you.

  18. Ripped and small, yes.

    Ripped and big, no.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bruno.camilo View Post
    Ripped and small, yes.

    Ripped and big, no.
    Thats a bit of bullsh1t right there
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  20. Try mixing up your training split to see which works best for you to add muscle. Example is high volume or low volume and heavier weight etc. maybe even combine both methods.

  21. oh im mixing it up its different each time, heavy, slow reps fast reps slow negative, high reps lower weight, etc.
    tracking calories, struggle to hit 1800

    Week 6 im pretty beat im not seeing results - might have to find some ECA as I couldnt handle the Yohimbine

  22. @gaz7456- how old are you? That is impressive regardless of age.

  23. How long have you been at the deficit man? You can get away with that for up to 12 weeks or so, but after that you need to start increasing calories a little bit to rev that metabolism up.

    Someone mentioned it a bit earlier in this thread. Check out a website called Eat To Perform. Try upping calories to 2000 and increase carbs a tinge just for the sake of being able to actually lift when you hit the weights. You won't be setting PRs in a deficit, but when you crash hard you gotta ease up a bit on yourself.

    You having refill days if you're low carbing it?

  24. mid 40s. Thank you for the complement.
    I agree with an earlier post that you need to work in cycles of calorie deficit, because your body will get used to it.
    But dropping fat is essentially just burning more calories than you consume and getting to a level where the body fat % is low enough to give you the natural ripped look.
    It takes years rather than months and then it is about finding a lifestyle and diet that permits this level to be maintained pretty much year round.
    I've been training over 30 years consistently.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by NoAddedHmones View Post
    Thats a bit of bullsh1t right there
    With no steroid on the scene, u can be a chicken and shredded yeah but that's it. Just take a look on Jon Jones before he got suspended of the UFC.
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