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By the way, I was also quitting benzos and smoking at the same time. Its so hard...
Guys.. I relapsed :( I got into a physical cconfrontation with my family and I realized that I was being out of control so I had to take something to calm down and talk things out with my family.
I did hit somebody, but thank god my family understands my past and won't report me because they understand what I'm going through, that to me takes a lot of strength.. I'm going to be okay, I think this was the best thing I could've done at the time, I screwed up my sobriety but my family resolved out conflicts with me and were all good now. I called a therapist even though its late and left a message. I'm seeking help. You guys help me so much even if you don't realize it. Just a stranger saying "I understand what you're going through, be strong man, you'll get through" helps me so ****ing much you guys have no idea!
I'm getting back to family time, I haven't read the most recent posts yet but I'll get back to you guys! Thank you everybody, please keep helping me.
 
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If I may.... Taking a pill to deal with a problem is what got you into this situation to begin with brother! My advice is "if a situation is getting to you then politely excuse yourself and walk away"! Life is chock full of anxious situations. Learn to walk away and come back later when you've had a chance to think about things and solve the issue.
 

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What did you post man, jimbuick? If it was helpful please repost it, if it was criticism, please post it as long as its constructive not just flaming.
 

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you may also want to look into residential treatment programs, they CAN be good, of course a bad program is terrible, but sometimes being away from your comfortable existence helps.
 

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Do you have any experience with them? You can pm me if its too personal. I'm curious if you had some symptoms I had that were fixed, and how you experienced your thinking change?
I have been to some. The uplift lasts a couple months for me.
 

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Good luck with recovery and definitely get off ALL opiates, Ive delt with it in the distant past and its a road to no where. Get in some form of consistent counseling and like others have told U, deal with Ur issues one day at a time. We create alot of our own problems, like I tell my Son "dont kick Ur own ass, life is gonna do that for ya"..... I wish U the best, keep us updated !!
 
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Opiates can cause decrease in LH which has been shown in pub med studies.
It would be highly recommended to work with specialist in this area as well as a medical professionals. THis is something which should not be done with out medical supervision. Trying to rebalance a persons chemistry can be very challenging. Having detailed history and symptoms is crucial to these situations. The most challenging cases are the benzo withdrawl cases which can take up to several months to re stabilize the entire HPTA. The use of HCG or clomid by your doctor may be one way of resolving the hormone issues with secondary hypogonadism. Too many people have been lead that hormones are the magic grail, but if you do not take care of other issues then often you will not get the desired out come.
 

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Here's my main worry. I'm trying to keep my addictions on the down low because I'm trying to be a pharmacist and having stuff like opiate addiction on my medical record doesn't sound good, also doctors will be reluctant to prescribe certain medications.
So are my worries realistic? What happens if I put it all out on the table for a doctor and its on my records forever? That's also why I haven't met with my therapist yet at all.

Blood test tomorrow, CBC, metabolic panic, thyroid, testosterone, and prolactin. I hope they find out what's going on. My dick is getting no blood flow, feels like its gonna just fall off. I imagine huge mental stress from withdrawal coupled with pct definitely screws with that.
By the way I've also been in benzos a few times as prescribed. It sucks getting off of them, more than anything else.
 

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With predisposition to this kind of addiction it might be a good idea to go into some other branch within the medical field. You're really asking for a tough road with that temptation in front of you.
 

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I understand what you're saying and all, but I don't care.
Predisposition for me was because I wanted to escape anxiety and depression. Today is day 3 I feel genuinely happy, and no longer suicidally depressed in years.
 

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Tough times man, i went through panic disorder when i was about your age too - you'll make it out the other side though and be 4000% stronger. Trust me on that.

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Good man, I hope the trails and tribulations make me stronger just as you are.
Setting up appt. For psychiatrist tomorrow, a very understanding one with a good reputation. If they put me on benzos, I will be extremely cautious with them.
Went to college orientation today, my friends were dicks to me these last couple days, when we were supposed to be celebrating me going to college. Very little respect was shown by them, I felt like a burden and made my anxiety and self esteem drop a bit. I'll get through this! and I was stressed out, wasn't gonna go to my orientation. I took half a klonopin and made it through, almost everybody was really friendly. Some guy was disrespectful. My normal instinct is to punch him in the face, what should I do instead?
I'm gonna call tomorrow morning to see about my blood results. Will get numbers, measurements and reference ranges, posting them all. Its a puzzle, and we're gonna figure this all out.
Once again, there is a lot of optimistic open minded people on this thread, and I respect those types of people highly.
 

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Waiting for them to call me back, nurse said she wants to talk to me about my blood test.
That's usually not a good sign.
She'll probably have questions.
I will keep posted. Put my results up as soon as I get them.
 

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Okay guys ready for the results? I wasn't...

I'll only post the abnormal ones.

Cholesterol: 239
LDL (bad cholesterol): 203
HDL (good cholesterol): 21
DAMN

Total Testosterone ref range 250-1100 mine: 47!!!! :O
Free Testosterone ref range 33.0-155.0 mine: 13.3!
Prolactin (they said this one was normal, but is still high. Ref range: 2.0-18.3 Mine 17.3
I still get night wood and had sexy dreams last night, but I only last a couple minutes and cant get a full hard on.

Liver:
ALT ref range 8-46 Mine 88
AST ref range 12-32 Mine 42



I was on Nolvadex, and cialis around the time I took the test.


Once again, as the title of this threat states, I know I ****ed up. Now please, HELP ME!
Am seeing doc in one month then he's getting me an appt for an Endocrinologist after that, probably take longer..
Once again, I'm only 19 years old.
 

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Okay guys ready for the results? I wasn't...

I'll only post the abnormal ones.

Cholesterol: 239
LDL (bad cholesterol): 203
HDL (good cholesterol): 21
DAMN

Total Testosterone ref range 250-1100 mine: 47!!!! :O
Free Testosterone ref range 33.0-155.0 mine: 13.3!
Prolactin (they said this one was normal, but is still high. Ref range: 2.0-18.3 Mine 17.3
I still get night wood and had sexy dreams last night, but I only last a couple minutes and cant get a full hard on.

Liver:
ALT ref range 8-46 Mine 88
AST ref range 12-32 Mine 42



I was on Nolvadex, and cialis around the time I took the test.


Once again, as the title of this threat states, I know I ****ed up. Now please, HELP ME!
Am seeing doc in one month then he's getting me an appt for an Endocrinologist after that, probably take longer..
Once again, I'm only 19 years old.
You win.... these are the worst FT and TT numbers ever posted!!!!
And your liver is annoyed.....
What do you think an ENDO can do with this???
IMHO... Stop taking ALL Meds, you can see from the labs that your all out of balance.
Stay clean for 3 months, and RETEST.
 

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Okay guys ready for the results? I wasn't... I'll only post the abnormal ones. Cholesterol: 239 LDL (bad cholesterol): 203 HDL (good cholesterol): 21 DAMN Total Testosterone ref range 250-1100 mine: 47!!!! :O Free Testosterone ref range 33.0-155.0 mine: 13.3! Prolactin (they said this one was normal, but is still high. Ref range: 2.0-18.3 Mine 17.3 I still get night wood and had sexy dreams last night, but I only last a couple minutes and cant get a full hard on. Liver: ALT ref range 8-46 Mine 88 AST ref range 12-32 Mine 42 I was on Nolvadex, and cialis around the time I took the test. Once again, as the title of this threat states, I know I ****ed up. Now please, HELP ME! Am seeing doc in one month then he's getting me an appt for an Endocrinologist after that, probably take longer.. Once again, I'm only 19 years old.
IMO....I'm sure you don't want to hear this but if you are on anything at all right now, STOP TAKING IT. Stop everything you're taking. It's gonna suck but you're not exactly in a great state now. Let the endo do his job. Not need to throw jello at the wall to see what sticks. You've got some crazy stuff going on with your liver and of course hormonally you're jacked up.
 

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The liver enzymes should be elevated from nolvadex (liver toxic) and the epistane.
So I have 1 MONTH till I can see my doctor, till he can even REFER me to an ENDO. So I'm like screwed?!
At the same time my mind state is finally somewhat normal with the benzos.. DAMN.
The endo immediately said TRT when I called him... The **** man.

And my cholesterol?!!? What do I do to improve that?
And you say the worst numbers you've ever seen? Man..
 

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It would be helpful to us if you could list how many Meds you are taking and how much of each.
Please be accurate.

You are 18, cholesterol doesn't matter.
Opiates will impact TT, lots of opiates will shut you down. It would be nice if you had LH labs.
 

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I agree with you man, but my ldl being over 200 is very very high and dangerous.

Medications: gabapentin 400mg 3x day and tinazidine 4mg nightly (both for opiate withdrawal)
Klonopin 1-2mg daily for anxiety, opiate withdrawal and social phobia. Allows me to function.
Rhodiola, gives me some energy and has stress relieving properties.
Vitamin C high dose, and multivitamin daily.
Fish oil 1-2 grams (my triglycerides are 50, which are very low)

Will start tapering my gaba and tinazidine as opiate withdrawal decreases in intensity.

Just started taking reservatrol for my cholesterol.
Stopped nolvadex and everything else.

Diet will be changed too, eat more avocados, nuts, dark chocolate, oatmeal, fibers, tuna and green tea.
Stopping all fast food. Quitting smoking with nicotine polisterex 2mg gum. I can't quit cold turkey with my stress levels how they are now. One step at a time.

Calling doc tomorrow to discuss urgency of situation and how bad my mood, focus, energy, libido and how it feels like my dick is gonna fall off. Having him call endo and schedule a priority appointment.
Looking for psychiatrist approved for my insurance tomorrow to help with mental.
Called one endo and told them my labs and age, they said TRT forsure.
 

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Yeah that's some of the worst numbers I've ever seen. Since you're withdrawing you're getting some sex drive back, from Prolactin but also now you're the PE champion.. absence of opiates causes sensitivity to go thru roof.. you need good fats to elevate hdl's. STAY STRONG BROTHER!! the endo will get your chemistry right and you gotta be proactive like you're doing now...
 
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Addictions come from BHMT, COMT, and GAD along with DRD2 gene mutation. If you reboot the 1-5 dopamine pathways then your chance for relapse will be lessened. In many case I collaborate on cases with medical doctors who are actually looking for the potential root cause of the issue, by looking at ones genetic predisposition it provides an interesting map on how to deal with the issue. I have review over well over 1000 genetic reports of patients from medical doctors. Over time it is obviously where the problem lies and how you deal with it. I agree some cases need medical intervention, but vast majority may not if you address the person and not the symptoms. I refer this to the "Y" factor or better one is "WTF" when it comes to some cases.
 

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Dr called today and asked if I wanted to do TRT. I said yes, as long as its the injections.
Good fats, so then I've been eating pistacios, gonna use avocado oil, eat some eggs. Hmm.. I'll have to look up some more good fats.

Thanks for clearing that part of it up! Ahaha, that explains the PE and everything else.

Now in order for me to reboot my dopamine pathways, I would need a gene analysis? Is that what you're saying? Theres a lot of scam in the gene analysis business. So do I need to know which specific genes are causing my problem in order to fix the problem?
Would any nootropics or supplements help?
 

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I'm basically giving up. Nobody should ever have to feel like this. No drug, supplement, or words can help me. Im dropping out of college. Cutting off all my "friends" that don't give a **** about me. Man, and all I want to do is make the world a better place and help people. **** it.
 

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Easy there bro. One day at a time. No pressure to do everything in a day.... appreciate what you have and remember what's important. Be humble. Don't expect it all to be smooth and easy. ONE DAY AT A TIME
 

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I'm trying so ****ing hard to stop taking everything. I went without all of the pills today and somebody said something to me and I was instantly ready to pick them up by their throat.
My doctors are taking their time. I wish my life could be normal, I want to have fun, this life is so pointless. Every day is a struggle. If I'm not living, I better get busy dying.
 
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chamomile,kava,valerian root,melatonin,5htp.. would help im no doc but I wouldn't take all those scripts.try your best to control your thoughts, your inner voice could sometime be sabotaging without you realizing. meditate take it one day at a time bro. I would get lgi.damage control to help ur numbers.
 

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You can't just expect to stop the medication like that... keep taking the gabapentin it will hold your mood in a better place without making you sleepy but you GOTTA take it everyday and it's not gonna cause wd when you stop taking it. Use Klonopin for flare ups or if you can't sleep. RELAX RELAX.. Rome wasn't built in a day. With time and effort it will get better and then you start coming off the medication. You have a doctor treating you so don't make your own system. When you start HRT and counseling you will start to feel better.
 

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Try not to take Klonopin daily. Benzodiazepams are very addictive and nightmare to get off of. Gabapentin isn't like that. Take the gabapentin like you're supposed to. Tinazidine I'm not sure about but try to use only when necessary. Something I learned is the term HALT as a way to help with triggers to make you feel this way. If you're Hungry Angry Lonely or Tired then get out of that situation and change your state of mind.
 
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Messing around even recommending OTC is extremely dangerous not knowing the full medical history when there is potential instability. When dealing with neurotransmitter cases one needs to be highly cautious and know what they are doing. One could tip the scales the other way incredible fast. I am no doctor, but Ideal with some of the most complex neurological lyme cases from well respected LLMD's from canada and US. Trust me Benzo are one of the hardest to with drawl from because there is not just the levels you need to deal with, but also the potential damage it can cause at receptor levels at another variable too it.
 

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I got the news today that my favorite aunt has systemic organ failure. I cried for about an hour straight. Besides this, my mood has been what a normal person would feel.
Another month is the earliest my doctor can take me. We're waiting on his refferal to an Endo.
As far as I know, I'm prescribed testosterone cypionate. But he got injured at the job on Friday and didn't sign off on my prescription yet. Hopefully Monday it gets taken care of.

Whenever something or somebody really pisses me off, I put on my shoes and go for a run. I feel much better since I started cardio.
You're exactly right about the Gabapentin, yolked. Although this is a very complex issue, it is the best "immediate relief" there is for what I'm going through. Only thing I've taken today is L-theanine, fish oil, and resveritrol. I'll take gabapentin tonight so I'll be able to fall asleep. One day at a time!
Also my dad is 62, and his health is not as good as it used to be. My aunt is almost gone, so I need to learn how to mature and be strong because as it is, I couldn't make it on my own.
 

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Something somewhat unrelated to me, but of significant importance.
My dad is complaining of all of the symptoms of low T, and after reading a sticky in the male anti aging forum about HRT for me, I found a lot of significant things relevant to him.
Once again, all symptoms of low T. His free T is at the bottom of the reference range (normal bottom is 46, he is at 48) but his doctor (my doctor also) never got a test for E2. The male anti aging sticky points out a few things.
He has BPH, and high testosterone doesn't really cause BPH unless there's high estrogen.
Also of significance, he has been on rx pain meds for decades and these can mimic symptoms of BPH. Feeling like you need to go but can't.
So I'm addressing all of this to his doctor, to see if we can get a E2 test, as well as a PSA test, to see if he really needs his BPH meds or if it's just from his other meds.
High estrogen to testosterone ratio is correlated with insulin resistence.
He complains of sweaty, tackyness, tiredness and sometimes faster heart rate after eating meals. Could be insulin resistence.
Just ideas. But remember, doctors only see their patients for minutes at a time and run tests off the top of their head, I could be helping my dad with things his doctor doesn't know about. But of course, I'm not going to treat these things, I'm talking to his doctor about them.
Another note, he was trying formestane for a few weeks and he said he felt much better than usual. Hmm, high E2 could be the culprit.

My doctor is definitely putting me on TRT. Now that that's out of the way, anybody have anything to say that's bad about being on TRT for life, or at my age? Any relevant concerns or ideas hold value.
Thanks once again, everybody!
 
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Sounds to me like it may be a good idea to get a counselor to help you through these rough times. It is not a sign of weakness as many may think, but truly a sign of strength to know when you need help. Any one who tells you other wise is a fool. Right now you need what you need to do to stabilize and benzo if used in proper dosages will help short ten, but are not the best long term solution.
 

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thank GOD my doctors appointment is in 2 days.
I've been on axiron 2 pumps a day. for almost 2 weeks. clinical studies show 7/10 people have normal testosterone levels at this dose after 2 weeks. my nipples were very sensitive and painful and I grew lumps quickly. I'm taking erase now. I'm telling my doc all that.
-sexual function came back
-more assertive, and motivated
-anxiety is absolutely killing me. im getting much worse. socially isolated. my friends and family were ignoring me after I came clean to a few about my addiction. and it feels ****ING HORRIBLE.
I'm really depressed. motivated to get out there and try to feel better. but this anxiety is making all of my attempts to be around people feel like hell

edit: I wish nobody out there ever had to experience anything like what I've been through. balancing college, mental health, the stress of alienation by my only people I know. my own FAMILY. my aunt and grandma are both in the hospital. my cousin that has always been like my bro ignores all my attempts to talk to him. if there is a god, please save me. I don't want to suffer one more day
 

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Thanks Sam, sure did!!!!
Dr appointment today.
switching from axiron to test injections at home wooooo! also got a low dose script of klonopin, 30 .5 mg, 3 refills.
had to persuade him for DHT and estrogen labs. won't give me HCG. my nuts are shrinking and aching. hate to say this because I respect forum rules.. but I need an online hcg source so I won't permanently damage my hpta.
today I felt great with the klonopin, and met 2 really hot girls. didn't try too hard like I normally do. just felt chill. one gave me her number, didn't have to ask for it. sweeeet. can't wait to get some action (; I've got confidence again, can't wait to drown in that poon honestly. I've missed being a teenager.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR ADVICE, UNDYING SUPPORT AND HELP. IT HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY.
if I had more rep pwr you guys would all get more reps.
 

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Thanks Sam, sure did!!!! Dr appointment today. switching from axiron to test injections at home wooooo! also got a low dose script of klonopin, 30 .5 mg, 3 refills. had to persuade him for DHT and estrogen labs. won't give me HCG. my nuts are shrinking and aching. hate to say this because I respect forum rules.. but I need an online hcg source so I won't permanently damage my hpta. today I felt great with the klonopin, and met 2 really hot girls. didn't try too hard like I normally do. just felt chill. one gave me her number, didn't have to ask for it. sweeeet. can't wait to get some action (; I've got confidence again, can't wait to drown in that poon honestly. I've missed being a teenager. THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR ADVICE, UNDYING SUPPORT AND HELP. IT HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY. if I had more rep pwr you guys would all get more reps.
Glad you're feeling better man! I'm not a huge proponent of HCG but because of your age I think it would be a good idea to be on it because later in life you may want kids. HCG can add to issues in dialing in your E2. Keep us posted!
 

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thanks bro! anxiety like vanished. I can feel my emotions again, life actually sounds nice. I want to get **** done!

that's what I was thinking as well, also did you know not using the hcg affects the other hormones, like DHEA, and the master hormone, Pregenelone? since this breaks down into everything like cortisol I think its important.
I quickly read an article speaking of that topic. I hate to spread information that I am not 110% sure of, hence the name, Factsmachine.
I'll come back to this topic, so we can spread knowledge on that.
I'm gonna get a nap in before today's blood draw, haven't gotten the pre authorization for my injections yet, but i can't wait!
 

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thanks bro! anxiety like vanished. I can feel my emotions again, life actually sounds nice. I want to get **** done! that's what I was thinking as well, also did you know not using the hcg affects the other hormones, like DHEA, and the master hormone, Pregenelone? since this breaks down into everything like cortisol I think its important. I quickly read an article speaking of that topic. I hate to spread information that I am not 110% sure of, hence the name, Factsmachine. I'll come back to this topic, so we can spread knowledge on that. I'm gonna get a nap in before today's blood draw, haven't gotten the pre authorization for my injections yet, but i can't wait!
Yes. That's why most guys should be getting complete labs to check pregnenolone, DHEA and such. I take pregnenolone, DHEA and vitamin E. I also take .25 Mgs of arimidex 2-3 times a week.
 

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Yes. That's why most guys should be getting complete labs to check pregnenolone, DHEA and such. I take pregnenolone, DHEA and vitamin E. I also take .25 Mgs of arimidex 2-3 times a week.
I just started taking dhea. and took 10mg of pregenelone today. my doctor told me exactly this "no need to check DHEA, E2, pregenelone, any of that stuff anyway"
"well doc, those are suppressed with TRT. important for many functions. it is a concern, and I want it addressed"
"okay you'll get a DHT, FT, TT,and E2 test"
he already said he's not giving me HCG. I'm very worried he's the type to also not give AIs because they're "cancer drugs" and will just lower the T dose to compensate.

how did you talk and convince your doctor all of this, and what dosages of everything are you taking?
 

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I just started taking dhea. and took 10mg of pregenelone today. my doctor told me exactly this "no need to check DHEA, E2, pregenelone, any of that stuff anyway" "well doc, those are suppressed with TRT. important for many functions. it is a concern, and I want it addressed" "okay you'll get a DHT, FT, TT,and E2 test" he already said he's not giving me HCG. I'm very worried he's the type to also not give AIs because they're "cancer drugs" and will just lower the T dose to compensate. how did you talk and convince your doctor all of this, and what dosages of everything are you taking?
I take 100mgs of pregnenalone daily and 25 mgs dhea day. The reason for the high dose of preg is due to me finding out sublingual preg didn't work for me and my levels bottomed out so now I'm building them back up. Also I'm finally in the upper range for dhea so I'm starting to cut back on it to find where I need to be. The dr I go to specializes in TRT and holistic/integrative medicine. I know several people that go there and have had diagnosed conditions diminish due to being further tested and getting the foods and nutrients they need. I would start looking for another Dr NOW to avoid him cutting your dose back or not testing you for what you need. I went through that with my urologist and I left very quickly.
 

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damn! that's way high, so then you no longer take the sublingual form? I'm very uninformed about preg. I have the supplement form, 10mg tablets. I don't know if its supposed to be Rx only. but oh well! lol

you're exactly right, I'm going to start on the doctor hunt. I am worried about them dropping my klonopin if I go to a new doc. I suppose I should discuss that as well.
since I have no clue where my DHEA, preg, E2,and even Testosterone is at right now, wwhat's a good starting dose for pregenelone and DHEA?

oh yeah and foods, I'm a college student with no job, parents are poor, ect. so I'm getting food stamps so we can eat healthy! can't wait for that too!
I'm very concerned, gotta get this hcg. constant aching. and they're the size of grapes..
 

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damn! that's way high, so then you no longer take the sublingual form? I'm very uninformed about preg. I have the supplement form, 10mg tablets. I don't know if its supposed to be Rx only. but oh well! lol you're exactly right, I'm going to start on the doctor hunt. I am worried about them dropping my klonopin if I go to a new doc. I suppose I should discuss that as well. since I have no clue where my DHEA, preg, E2,and even Testosterone is at right now, wwhat's a good starting dose for pregenelone and DHEA? oh yeah and foods, I'm a college student with no job, parents are poor, ect. so I'm getting food stamps so we can eat healthy! can't wait for that too! I'm very concerned, gotta get this hcg. constant aching. and they're the size of grapes..
No the dhea and preg are not rx. They are supplements. Yes I stopped taking the sublingual and went back to the oral. My labs with oral was 206 and the dr wanted it at 250. I changed to sublingual and after 2 months it dropped to 17! Unfortunately there's no starting dose unless you know what your level is now. Maybe you can find another dr soon that will test you.
 

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Gotcha, sounds like a new doctor is needed..

he prescribed me Test Cyp IM injections once every 2 weeks, 200mg.
well damn, no way in hell I'd do once every two weeks! im gonna do 50mg 2x a week.
ordered some HCG, hopefully its good quality.
also taking 50mg dhea and 20mg preg a day, this is day 2. but I feel much better and motivated already, could just be the test kicking in, who knows.
I'll raise and lower the doses of dhea and preg depending on how I feel. combatting excess E2 marked by nipple sensitivity with the new Erase.
also since I have no appetite and have lost 16 pounds due to stress, I'm going to use GHRP-6 again. I only eat one or two small meals lately and never get hungry, happens with the stress.
thankfully... I am coming back to life!
 

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So glad you are feeling better. Yes definitely split those injections as you stated. Just more proof your dr is behind the times.
 
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If you are not in normal T levels by age 24, then go on HRT , your development might be a little late. IMO
 

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I just started taking dhea. and took 10mg of pregenelone today. my doctor told me exactly this "no need to check DHEA, E2, pregenelone, any of that stuff anyway"
"well doc, those are suppressed with TRT. important for many functions. it is a concern, and I want it addressed"
"okay you'll get a DHT, FT, TT,and E2 test"
he already said he's not giving me HCG. I'm very worried he's the type to also not give AIs because they're "cancer drugs" and will just lower the T dose to compensate.

how did you talk and convince your doctor all of this, and what dosages of everything are you taking?
Bro you don't want to be on a maxed out dose using AI's to control E2. You want the minimum dose for the effect. And BE CAREFUL with that Klonopin. Benzodiazepams are EXTREMELY addictive. Most detox facilities won't even take people for benzo detox due to deadly seizures and make them go to a hospital in case the reaper shows up.. BE CAREFUL. Don't take em EVERYDAY. Skip days no matter what. Find a way.
 

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