Tren questions

[MakaveliThaDon]

Sounds like a bro doctor to me

 

[Big boy D]

Ya got his number?

 

[BBB]

Deca is often used for joint problems. I addtional water your body holds while on deca helps lubricate joints and allows them to heal. It worked for me at least. I did experience sides (low libido, deca dick and tescular shrihkage). I ran a low dose of deca for about three months. I gained about 9-10 lbs. and kept about 3-4 lbs. after I stopped. My doctor was a sports doctor or at least a doctor the specializes in sports injuries. I fully recovered within about 6-8 weeks (on PCT) without issue. I had blood test conpleted throughout. My lipid profile was trash while on cycle. My estrogen values increased as did my testosterone levels. Everything else was within normal ranges.

 

[BBB]

Again, I say show me the proof of permenant shutdown. Shutdown from Tren and Deca (aka 19 Nors) is no different from any other androgen. They have been used for years by pro bodybuilders without permenant problems.

 

[Big boy D]

Well that makes me feel better. I think when you decide to do roids you except your fate. You are going to do well on it....or, not. I feel like you can research the hell out of it and try to know every angle, but it's like life. When it's your turn to get hit, it's your turn.

 

[mattpadgett]

Question will someone tell me if I can shoot it in any muscle or will I get the same results just by doing the glut of quad

 

[7ten11]

Well that makes me feel better. I think when you decide to do roids you except your fate. You are going to do well on it....or, not. I feel like you can research the hell out of it and try to know every angle, but it's like life. When it's your turn to get hit, it's your turn.

They'd true. But why would u go scuba diving without taking all safety precautions.
When u decide to go to the dark side, u need to take responsibility for your own health.
I know I would never put anything into my body that I don't 100% know exactly what it is I'm putting in.
I would also like to know everything about combatting sides whilst on, how to recovery quickly & how to keep gains.
Other wise u might as well inject battery acid & hope for the best.

To answer the post above, AAS does not work with site specific muscles, it's injected & used on every muscle regardless where it's entered.
Unless u use synthol of course.
No hate here brother, but of u gotta ask that question, your not ready for juice.

 

[DetroitHammer]

Question will someone tell me if I can shoot it in any muscle or will I get the same results just by doing the glut of quad

You have to be careful about where you shoot, but any muscle is as good as another, for the most part. You should never shoot in the back of your legs, too close to the center if you do glutes, calves are not considered a good place to shoot, etc.

 

[Big boy D]

What u like better the 21g or the 23g? Rig man, rig.

 

[Big boy D]

I like it in the as-s!!

 

[joeblow1]

Ok, I'm just asking a question and don't plan on running this until another year or so.

Why do people say tren shouldnt be taken for beginners?

If its the sides, what are they? Cause from what I've read it doesn't seem terrible .

I'd run this with 600mg test e

Tren is one of the most powerful steroids there are. Start small a gradually build up steroid use over time.

 

[jamesm11]

yes i know. that's why it says"this is just a question and i wouldn't run it for at least another year" probably longer.

 

[Big boy D]

Ya roids is a real change in the body's cell structure. But I'm not one to talk. My first run was tren straight. I loved the drive it gave me. I didnt have much trouble with it. What everyone ells seamed to get. Night sweets. So there is more then one way at looking at cell tweaking. Slow and over time, or ride the horse. It's not like your going to be huge over night, even with sups. So think about it.

 

[Big boy D]

Ok my question! I am on week 8 of test e and deca. I have tri gear. Test e, p and c together. Is it ok to rip out the last 4 weeks with the tri gear and deca(stoping the deca week 10. What is tri gear good to stack with? It's self?

 

[7ten11]

Ok my question! I am on week 8 of test e and deca. I have tri gear. Test e, p and c together. Is it ok to rip out the last 4 weeks with the tri gear and deca(stoping the deca week 10. What is tri gear good to stack with? It's self?

Sounds like a backyard sus lol
Tri test huh, prop cyp & enth, what's the point, enth & cyp are just about the same thing.

Anyway, test is test, the only reason sus was made was to make TRT treatment easier, one shot a fortnight allows for quick & slow release test over a couple of weeks for replacement test in older patients.

In my honest opinion, a single esther test dosed evenly in accordance with its half life will render better & more even blood concentrations.

What I would do is find & straight test C or E & run that for 3 or 4 weeks once you've come off deca
But considering your Tri test has E & C, just stick with that.

Your question about what to stack with?
Just about everything lol
Maybe run some winny/stanna at the end

 

[Big boy D]

I'm on test e now. How would you mix it in just stop the e.

 

[Big boy D]

I was going to stop the deca two weeks before stoping the test e. You say longer like four weeks?? Y?

 

[7ten11]

I was going to stop the deca two weeks before stoping the test e. You say longer like four weeks?? Y?

No need to stop the test your on, keep running that.

As for deca, I think u need more time with it out & running test before you start a pct

 

[GMG760]

I was going to stop the deca two weeks before stoping the test e. You say longer like four weeks?? Y?

Because deca stays in your system for a while. Longer than 2 weeks.

 

[GeekPoop]

Because deca stays in your system for a while. Longer than 2 weeks.

exactly. the half life is 2 weeks

so if you injected 1000mgs, after 2 weeks you still have 500, than 250, than 125 etc

 

[joeblow1]

Ok my question! I am on week 8 of test e and deca. I have tri gear. Test e, p and c together. Is it ok to rip out the last 4 weeks with the tri gear and deca(stoping the deca week 10. What is tri gear good to stack with? It's self?

Thats definitely some ugl sustanon. Stack it like you would regular sus, and im not a fan of 8 week cycles. Its not long enough to acheive substantial gains. It takes a good 4 weeks for the long esters to get rolling at full speed. Then you only have 6 weeks to gain assuming you start pct 2 weeks after last shot.

 

[Big boy D]

So how long can I run the test ? I was told I could run it year round. A buddy has been two years on test.

 

[7ten11]

So how long can I run the test ? I was told I could run it year round. A buddy has been two years on test.

Some do a blast & cruise, do they blast their cycle & run low dose test as a cruise year round do they can blast again.
I hope they are using hcg too!

Pretty hard to recover after several years on bro

 

[Big boy D]

Some do a blast & cruise, do they blast their cycle & run low dose test as a cruise year round do they can blast again.
I hope they are using hcg too!

Pretty hard to recover after several years on bro

So this is my first cycle. I can't seam to get the water needed for my hcg. Got the hcg, not the water. Kinda funny. I feel like the balls are a bit dry. So you can run all year. Being 35 years old, would that shut me down. Dont really want to juice for the rest of my life. I was thinking of staying on untill my second cycle was over then do a couple month clean out. Good idea? No? It sounds like what you shouldn't do.

 

[DetroitHammer]

Exactly what I do. HCG is a must, in my opinion. I couldn't imagine coming off, but at my age, I guess that's assumed.

If I were the OP, I'd get my blood work done, I mean a complete panel, and see where my tests levels were. If my test was 400 or below, I think I'd jump on TRT right away. Once you educate yourself and know how to modulate sides, control unwanted rises in E2, DHT, etc, then it's just a matter of supply and weekly injections. I know 35 is a bit young for TRT, but 40 is considered a good age to start if you don't mind living with the fact that you're shutting yourself down. And then when I blast, man, it's a blast!

Some do a blast & cruise, do they blast their cycle & run low dose test as a cruise year round do they can blast again.
I hope they are using hcg too!

Pretty hard to recover after several years on bro

 

[GeekPoop]

use amazon.com you can get there water there

 

[icon0561]

You have to be careful about where you shoot, but any muscle is as good as another, for the most part. You should never shoot in the back of your legs, too close to the center if you do glutes, calves are not considered a good place to shoot, etc.

Pinned calves only once and never again.

 

[Big boy D]

The real problem Is getting it sent to the house. Wife is kinda in the dark. I will find a way around it. She is on board but not completely informed yet....

 

[7ten11]

The real problem Is getting it sent to the house. Wife is kinda in the dark. I will find a way around it. She is on board but not completely informed yet....

Lol, I used to have that problem until I got busted.

Especially when u gotta keep the hcg in the family fridge haha.

Anyway, if u gonna cruise for long periods it's a good idea to use hcg as it will keep the testies plump, cause while your using synthetic test your natural production will stop or slow down.

 

[Big boy D]

You got busted by your wife I hope! How did that go? She take it smooth ? Ya its going to be a little problem.

 

[GMG760]

I don't know how you guys can inject w/out someone who lives with you knowing. Kids... I can see kids not knowing, but there's no way I could keep my lady in the dark. Seems like you'd be asking for eventual trouble and would probably just wind up pissing off my lady worse. But the second my boys get smaller or I grow ridiculously fast, she's gonna know somethings up. I guess on the flipside I have a very supportive lady, which is quite a blessing.

 

[7ten11]

You got busted by your wife I hope! How did that go? She take it smooth ? Ya its going to be a little problem.

Yeah, not really busted but she found a broken amp that I lost lol
So I had questions to answer.
I've been married 16 years & been training over 22 years, so my wife always new I bulk & cut lol

But I trained natty for 16 or so years until I was about 36 years old. Then started from there.

She took it well, once I explained what it's all about & I was well versed in what's going on, plus I had a good doc doing bloods every 5 weeks.

It was left to me to do as long as she knew

 

[icon0561]

Going on six years and she either doesn't know or doesn't want to know.
I've always had crazy stuff around the house supplement wise and have been doing b12 injections for a while so that helps explain some of stuff she might find in the trash but I really think she just prefers to not ask so I don't have to lie.

 

[GMG760]

Going on six years and she either doesn't know or doesn't want to know.
I've always had crazy stuff around the house supplement wise and have been doing b12 injections for a while so that helps explain some of stuff she might find in the trash but I really think she just prefers to not ask so I don't have to lie.

I bet it's the good ol' don't ask don't tell policy going on.

 

[Big boy D]

My wife knows Something is up. She asked if I was doing them. I said yes. Did she believe me? Don't think so. She knows I'm on something, she just don't realize that I am slamming one in my ass cheek. I have been working out for years so why wouldn't I get gains, right? It's better for you then most over the counter crap that's way over priced and don't help. I really wish I started a long time ago. I wish it wasn't so crapped on because it really is why I work out. Muscle... I think the sight of a pin is just scary for most and that is a big part of it. The horror stories. Tell me one that you guys have had. Dick fell off, grew some double D's. Never Hurd of a dude kicking the bucket on the juice.

 

[icon0561]

I bet it's the good ol' don't ask don't tell policy going on.

That's my guess. If she asked I'd just lay it out and tell her but until she wants to know I'm fine not telling her.

 

[7ten11]

Can't wait for the day she does the pinning lol

 

[Big boy D]

Ya right! That would be nice. I tried some 21 Gage last week. Man! I am happy to be back to the 23! The 21 was like butter but man it took a bit out of ya! Going to my doc now to see what he thinks about my blood work. Should be interesting. Told the wife I was doing roids. She asked why I always deleted my buddies text messages.(she is 9 months preg, allowed some insecurity) I looked straight at her and said "because it's always about working out and roids." she said she didn't care if I did them. I replied "good, because I am telling you the truth." that was the end of it. For today that is. Hope she don't want details. I can see her wanting to watch or some ****. Maybe it will turn her on!? Hahahaah

 

[GMG760]

Can't wait for the day she does the pinning lol

It's pretty nice that my girlfriend pins me. Makes my life really simple. The only thing is she is starting to do all sorts of craZy research ( good for her, I do appreciate it), but she can't differentiate her sources well. She'll go from some thread by a juicehead who runs insane cycles for info then jump to an "anti-steroid Nazi" webpage that blatantly condemns anything other than vitamin c, and can't figure out why she's getting mixed opinions. I spend a lot of time these days giving my chick crazy steroid lectures on different substances. I finally just broke down and gave her my copy of anabolic pharmacology and said "shut up and read this". It's funny, she is studying the damn thing like the bible lately.

 

[7ten11]

Lol, wait till she gets to caber & proviron lol
Greater sex drive & libido haha

Soon she'll be injecting you with injectable cialis & Viagra lol

 

[waynaferd]

I got my wife doing my pinning, her father is on TRT but only feels it the week of his cyp shot, so I got him some test E, and now his wife thinks she has low test and is gonna be trying 25mg/week soon LOL

Just gotta get the ole lady to try it now

 

[Big boy D]

Lol! Can we inject them with singing that would make them horny ? Or blow more!? Hahaaahshshsshshssshsaaha

 

[icon0561]

I wouldn't want my wife pinning me she's scared to death of needles as it is. If I ever ended up telling her I think I would have her watch bigger faster stronger to give her some background info then give her some actual books to read.

 

[Big boy D]

Well, what books would you suggest? Something that's easy reading. Kinda like steroids for dummies. Do they have that book?

 

[waynaferd]

I made my old lady watch Bigger Faster Stronger, and I think that's what made her finally agree to "test the waters" with me on "da joose"...of course first sign of "roid rage" it was over.....at first she was pissy about PH's, thinking they were "real AAS" or something...IDK

Anyway, once I started feeling 18 again, and couldn't leave her alone and had a general better mood all the time, she's fine with it now. She just says to keep the vials handy in case she hasta rush me to the hospital and they need to know what I took, LOL.

 

[Big boy D]

I dont think I ever watched that. It must be good because I have Hurd people talk of it often. I need to Check it out.

 

[Big boy D]

So I had my appointment with my doc. The liver test( blood work) came back with my enzymes levels high. He couldn't understand why and wanted to run more test, so I told him what I was taking.... He was cool as hell about it! He talked about hcg and said after my cycle we would run more test to see%2

 

[Big boy D]

So I had my appointment with my doc. The liver test( blood work) came back with my enzymes levels high. He couldn't understand why and wanted to run more test, so I told him what I was taking.... He was cool as hell about it! He talked about hcg and said after my cycle we would run more test to see where my levels were and how we could bring them up in a safer way. I said, cool! I really don't want to be safe, I want to be f cking huge. He ordered more tests to check my levels again. So long story short, he is on board the crazy train baby!! Also fessed up to the wife, she is cool and happy I told her. So even cooler. We will see next altercation we have. I can see the ammo already. O well, I will just do what I always do- in one ear and out the other! Hahaa.
So I jacked 1.5 ml of tri-test today so my last month of my cycle looks like this

2 weeks deca 500-750ml a week
4. Weeks test e. 500ml a week
4. Weeks of tri-test 500ml a week

I really don't want to stop! I am really gaining some weight now. I am starting hcg within a week. Waiting on the kit. I have a anti e pill also about 30, 50ml a pill. Can't remember the name o them. I could ask again.... Should I take them over the corse of this last month. Or? I was told by my chemist that I shouldn't take them unless I have signs of bitch tits or itching. Whats up ? I know start the clomid two weeks after and take the hcg up to that point. Right ???

 

[icon0561]

Keep the AI on hand unless you need it. Some people do when taking HCG. Run the HCG till the start of the clomid and then finish up with. If you have to run the AI along with the HCG stop it the same time you stop the HCG and then switch over to your serm.
Coming off cycle always sucks but then it just gives you a period to save some cash and plan the next run.

 

[7ten11]

So I had my appointment with my doc. The liver test( blood work) came back with my enzymes levels high. He couldn't understand why and wanted to run more test, so I told him what I was taking.... He was cool as hell about it! He talked about hcg and said after my cycle we would run more test to see where my levels were and how we could bring them up in a safer way. I said, cool! I really don't want to be safe, I want to be f cking huge. He ordered more tests to check my levels again. So long story short, he is on board the crazy train baby!! Also fessed up to the wife, she is cool and happy I told her. So even cooler. We will see next altercation we have. I can see the ammo already. O well, I will just do what I always do- in one ear and out the other! Hahaa.
So I jacked 1.5 ml of tri-test today so my last month of my cycle looks like this

2 weeks deca 500-750ml a week
4. Weeks test e. 500ml a week
4. Weeks of tri-test 500ml a week

I really don't want to stop! I am really gaining some weight now. I am starting hcg within a week. Waiting on the kit. I have a anti e pill also about 30, 50ml a pill. Can't remember the name o them. I could ask again.... Should I take them over the corse of this last month. Or? I was told by my chemist that I shouldn't take them unless I have signs of bitch tits or itching. Whats up ? I know start the clomid two weeks after and take the hcg up to that point. Right ???

You mean 500mg yeah, cause 500ml is a lot of fcking oil bro lol

Are you running hcg now?
If not start & use it all the way through your pct. Start your pct protocol 3 weeks from your last shot, not two. Your using long esters, it will take time to dissipate.