What would be better?
For a stack with anabeta elite, DAA and endosurge turbo
For a stack with anabeta elite, DAA and endosurge turbo
Had experience with the OG erase at 75mg and liked it.Do you have experience with either? I've never used formestane, but I know quite a few people really like it. Do you want to use a transdermal or pop a pill once in the morning?
IF you can find legit topical Form I would prefer that (@100mg a day) over Erase. Both should work well but I would look into Inhibit P which is around $17 usuallyWhat would be better?
For a stack with anabeta elite, DAA and endosurge turbo
Was thinking this.Erase Pro, transdermals are a pain i the ass, shower, scrub the area, wait for the transdermal to dry and absorb, etc... Or take one pill in the morning... Seems like a simple choice to me.
I should be able to get them both at the same priceErase Pro is a phenomenal product. Formestane products like Formasurge are a little better from my experience. I don't notice the same joint discomfort I get from 75mg+ of Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione, but that's just me.
I know I'm suppose to sell you more on Formasurge, but honest opinion it's a toss up. They're both fantastic products. I'd go for what's cheaper (but then again I'm just a cheap bastard).
Do you think PES will create one?Both great, personally for me with a 3 year old constantly all over me I avoid transdermals now. Used to enjoy them though.
Not in the plans as of now (=Do you think PES will create one?
Compliance is our #1 goal and a transdermal wouldn't be made without marketing it as a cosmetic. So in short, no.Do you think PES will create one?
You can't really make broad statements here. Depending on the carrier, delivery will be local or systemic. And depending on the active, it will work better orally vs transdermally. For instance, Erase works great orally but formestane should be taken transdermally.What's everyone's thoughts on transdermal delivery compared to oral?
Would it will be really be more effective because it will absorb better? Or is that just hype?
I am still swinging towards erase pro. Tried the OG and liked it
That's understandable.Compliance is our #1 goal and a transdermal wouldn't be made without marketing it as a cosmetic. So in short, no.
You can't really make broad statements here. Depending on the carrier, delivery will be local or systemic. And depending on the active, it will work better orally vs transdermally. For instance, Erase works great orally but formestane should be taken transdermally.
Yep, I liked it. Both are great products. Formestane has an added PH effect, erase has added cortisol control. Both are suicidal AIsThat's understandable. Oh I see! Thanks coop! Have you tried formestane personally?
Added PH effect at a higher dosage?Yep, I liked it. Both are great products. Formestane has an added PH effect, erase has added cortisol control. Both are suicidal AIs
I know the feeling exactly.Both great, personally for me with a 3 year old constantly all over me I avoid transdermals now. Used to enjoy them though.
Have you tried erase pro?Transdermal formestane, lots of it!
Thanks for your input!Erase Pro is a lot stronger of a product and I got great results from it. I think you should go with this product. Its really a winner in my book. I also stacked it with DAA as well and anavar also. All three of these worked really well for a supplement stack. Are you tracking your macros? How many calories are you taking in each day? What does your diet and nutrition look like?
Negative, just the original Erase.Have you tried erase pro?
Stay with the og. The extra $ is not worth it in my opinion for the pro.Negative, just the original Erase.
Erase Pro is a lot stronger of a product and I got great results from it. I think you should go with this product./QUOTE]
too bad we don't have access to quality bulks any more...if you had tried my formestane homebrew you would have never made that statement!!!
Looks like erase pro is the way to go!Erase Pro is a lot stronger of a product and I got great results from it. I think you should go with this product./QUOTE]
too bad we don't have access to quality bulks any more...if you had tried my formestane homebrew you would have never made that statement!!!
How can you say Erase Pro is stronger when you also took Anavar a steroid and DAA in conjunction with it? Obviously when you stack it with a steroid it should be a stronger product, no?Erase Pro is a lot stronger of a product and I got great results from it. I think you should go with this product. Its really a winner in my book. I also stacked it with DAA as well and anavar also. All three of these worked really well for a supplement stack. Are you tracking your macros? How many calories are you taking in each day? What does your diet and nutrition look like?
I assumed that he took Erase Pro solo and stacked it on another occasion.How can you say Erase Pro is stronger when you also took Anavar a steroid and DAA in conjunction with it? Obviously when you stack it with a steroid it should be a stronger product, no?
Personally EP gave me a nice leaning effect while it destroyed my joints. Formasurge gave me even better results without as much joint pain and considerably increased my libido. Yes it kind of gets old rubbing forma on everyday but the results are worth it.
What brand did you use for formestane?How can you say Erase Pro is stronger when you also took Anavar a steroid and DAA in conjunction with it? Obviously when you stack it with a steroid it should be a stronger product, no?
Personally EP gave me a nice leaning effect while it destroyed my joints. Formasurge gave me even better results without as much joint pain and considerably increased my libido. Yes it kind of gets old rubbing forma on everyday but the results are worth it.
Haha I would hope so, cause they would be skewed just a little.I assumed that he took Erase Pro solo and stacked it on another occasion.
I could have misread that though.
Obviously anavar would change the result somewhat lol.
What brand did you use for formestane?
I wouldn't take ABE due to the AI on top of EP/Forma so either EST or DAA, both if you have the funds.What would be better for the stack though?
DAA, ABE & endosurge turbo.
ABE doesn't have an AI either wayI wouldn't take ABE due to the AI on top of EP/Forma so either EST or DAA, both if you have the funds.
Yeah I was going to say thatABE doesn't have an AI either way
You may be getting mixed up with the added cortisol control?I wouldn't take ABE due to the AI on top of EP/Forma so either EST or DAA, both if you have the funds.
Ahh yes I glanced quickly and assumed it was the same compound found in Erase/EP.ABE doesn't have an AI either way
If I remember last time i looked into this it appeared that formestane worked quite effectively orally.formestane should be taken transdermally.
There was an oral Formestane made by PP. When they made their liquivade.If I remember last time i looked into this it appeared that formestane worked quite effectively orally.
I've read that it absorbs at a much higher rate than transdermalIf I remember last time i looked into this it appeared that formestane worked quite effectively orally.
????? yeah...at 10 grams a day!!!!If I remember last time i looked into this it appeared that formestane worked quite effectively orally.
yup...it was a definate step up from normal oral formestane products, but transdermal still rules.There was an oral Formestane made by PP. When they made their liquivade.
are you saying that oral formestane absorbs at a much higher rate than transdermal.......dude!!!!I've read that it absorbs at a much higher rate than transdermal
It is concluded that formestane is an effective, specific suppressant of oestradiol levels via the oral route requiring no more than 250 mg to be given daily
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0959-8049(05)80065-6
do your homework...formestane started out as a prescription anti-estrogen drug for the treatment of breast cancer. it was dropped because injection was required for it to be effective.It is concluded that formestane is an effective, specific suppressant of oestradiol levels via the oral route requiring no more than 250 mg to be given daily
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0959-8049(05)80065-6
Lol... referencing that scam artist.dinoii did clinicals on formestane with 10 gm per day being the effective dose. and this was back when GOOD QUALITY formestane was available
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