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Hey natty,
Could you drop some more information about your experience with pre-workout L-Dopa supplementation?
Hey natty,
You certainly canIs it worth dosing this with a high extract ECGC capsule?
I like the HGH surge preworkout...and I feel it enhances the effects of stimulants when combined withHey natty,
Could you drop some more information about your experience with pre-workout L-Dopa supplementation?
What would be an efficacious dose for preworkout?I like the HGH surge preworkout...and I feel it enhances the effects of stimulants when combined with
I liked the 200-300 mg range. But found myself tired. But the extract was less than what dopadex providesWhat would be an efficacious dose for preworkout?
Thanks, EBF!I liked the 200-300 mg range. But found myself tired. But the extract was less than what dopadex provides
But 100-200 feels the same to me
Drugs are illegalis this a supplement or drug?
and bad, mmkay?Drugs are illegal
Well, you could probably call it a drug if you wanted, because it is 98% pure l-dopa, but it is probably more accurate (or at least more common) to call it a supplement, because it is a compound extracted from a plant source.is this a supplement or drug?
Unless approved by the FDA and prescribed by a doctor.Drugs are illegal
This is really something you want to talk to your physician about. Dopadex is not intended to treat or ameliorate medical conditions, and healthy individuals should obviously not have tardive dyskinesiasI ordered some of this for prolactin control and to balance serotonin as I have psoriasis and several studies have shown that prolactin levels are highly elevated in psoriasis as well as serotonin to dopamine ratio being abnormal in favor of serotonin, but these studies give me pause...
Dosing even with low levels of L Dopa(496 to 694 mg) a day for extended periods produced some serious issues...
considering the dosage recommended is slightly under 750mg per day, this really has me concerned I should be looking for something lower dosed...
Any comments regarding these issues when taking L Dopa?
I cant post links yet, but a simple search of L Dopa and dyskinesia will bring up a big list
I don't get advice from physicians as what they know and their training is highly influenced by the AMA wich is highly influenced by the FDA which is highly influenced by Big Pharma.This is really something you want to talk to your physician about. Dopadex is not intended to treat or ameliorate medical conditions, and healthy individuals should obviously not have tardive dyskinesias
No offense, but you need to set aside these viewpoints. I actively work with physicians on a daily basis and the newer generation of doctors seems to have greater respect for ethics and less for pharmacetucal "bribery." Yes, medical conditions are a deviation from the norm. How does that change anything? You still need someone educated on the topic to treat you. I promise you that you are heavily short-changing your quality of life by self-medicating.Synthetic drugs are actually usually far more effective and safer than natural drugs. Prior to the advent of modern pharmaceuticals/medicine, people would die of causes as basic as bacterial infections. Synthetic drugs such as antibiotics, vaccines, aspirin, etc are the reason that people live healthier and longer.I don't get advice from physicians as what they know and their training is highly influenced by the AMA wich is highly influenced by the FDA which is highly influenced by Big Pharma.Vast majority of medical conditions are simply systems in the body being out of balance for various reasons. Dopamine lowers prolactrone and serotonin, although the research shows natural forms from mucuna have many fewer sides than the Synthetic form of Levodopa, but isn't that ALWAYS the case? Is there ever a drug where the synthetic form is safer than the natural form?
I am missing out? Pfft...yeah OK. My parents are both nutritional nuts and have lived on vitamins and minerals ever since I was growing up, researching and reading book after book about natural health remedies. They literally could start a library with the books they have on it. My Dad is almost 70 and my Mom is 76, and have never been in the hospital, rarely go to the doctor and are in perfect health. The doctor told them whatever they are doing to keep on doing it because they take no drugs at all(other than my mother taking thyroid since hypothyroidism runs in the family---natural not synthetic as it has been shown to be more effective---gee who realized God knew what he was doing when he created natural thyroid hormone with the 4 different types that have since been found to ALL play roles in the healthy and normal functioning of the thyroid instead of the one found in the synthetic kind), and are healthier than most people in their 40s. Coincidence? Doubt it. I don't know what the percentage of people not on medication is after age 45 or 50, but I am pretty sure its probably under 20%. After age 70?? Probably under 5%...No offense, but you need to set aside these viewpoints. I actively work with physicians on a daily basis and the newer generation of doctors seems to have greater respect for ethics and less for pharmacetucal "bribery." Yes, medical conditions are a deviation from the norm. How does that change anything? You still need someone educated on the topic to treat you. I promise you that you are heavily short-changing your quality of life by self-medicating.Synthetic drugs are actually usually far more effective and safer than natural drugs. Prior to the advent of modern pharmaceuticals/medicine, people would die of causes as basic as bacterial infections. Synthetic drugs such as antibiotics, vaccines, aspirin, etc are the reason that people live healthier and longer.
I don't get advice from physicians as what they know and their training is highly influenced by the AMA wich is highly influenced by the FDA which is highly influenced by Big Pharma.
Vast majority of medical conditions are simply systems in the body being out of balance for various reasons.
Dopamine lowers prolactrone and serotonin, although the research shows natural forms from mucuna have many fewer sides than the Synthetic form of Levodopa, but isn't that ALWAYS the case? Is there ever a drug where the synthetic form is safer than the natural form?
My response wasn't intended to come off as rude, and I apologize if that was the way it sounded. But seriously. Saying those drugs are safe as more and more companies are getting sued on a daily basis for causing serious health problems or death is a little ridiculous. Especially considering the topic we are talking about, L-Dopa has been clinically and repeatedly shown to be much much safer, more effective and longer lasting in its natural form than its synthetic form at a much lower dose.Considering the fact that you seem to really embrace the natural side of medicine/supplementation, I'm a little curious about why you chose to order synthetic L-dopa rather than one of the cheaper mucuna products. They have quite a lot of them (I think the NOW Foods one is more similar to what you said you would prefer). For the record, I am taking SS L-dopa at the moment and find it to be very effective with no sides, but I am taking it as a basic sleep aid and not to treat any chemical imbalances. I like the fact that you try to stay away from drugs and pharmaceuticals, but for the record, you seemed to come off a bit rudely in your response to MrCooper. The dude has a wealth of knowledge and was trying to help. Anyway, hope you can get the psoriasis under control. My dad has it and usually overdoes it with the hydrocortizone (no one will argue that overusing that stuff sure isn't great!).
Best,
Tyler
After reading your first paragraph, we will have to agree to disagree. I believe in natural selection, and you appear to believe in intelligent design, so there's really no point in dragging this out. I can tell we are from two very different schools of thought and no further discussion will dissuade the other person from their views.
If god really knew what he was doing, would their be a need for any of this **** in the first place? Come on man, logic is your friend. God: gives man ailments and disease so that man can find random plants and herbs to heal the ailments and disease god gave us in the first place?? Sorry, had to comment, not trying to start ****, but if you can logically explain that one I'd be all ears....I am missing out? Pfft...yeah OK. My parents are both nutritional nuts and have lived on vitamins and minerals ever since I was growing up, researching and reading book after book about natural health remedies. They literally could start a library with the books they have on it. My Dad is almost 70 and my Mom is 76, and have never been in the hospital, rarely go to the doctor and are in perfect health. The doctor told them whatever they are doing to keep on doing it because they take no drugs at all(other than my mother taking thyroid since hypothyroidism runs in the family---natural not synthetic as it has been shown to be more effective---gee who realized God knew what he was doing when he created natural thyroid hormone with the 4 different types that have since been found to ALL play roles in the healthy and normal functioning of the thyroid instead of the one found in the synthetic kind), and are healthier than most people in their 40s. Coincidence? Doubt it. I don't know what the percentage of people not on medication is after age 45 or 50, but I am pretty sure its probably under 20%. After age 70?? Probably under 5%...
The answer from dermatologists is to put me on enbrel or humira or something similar...basically poison the immune system instead of figuring out why its going haywire. Never going to happen. Never in my lifetime. After I told my dermatologist that I refused to allow myself to be poisoned, she looked at me and said "You are one of the smartest patients I have ever had." 80% of the immune system resides in the intestines, so any autoimmune disease starts there. Heal the problem in the intestines(normally "leaky gut" or something similar), and you resolve the condition. The answer to autoimmune diseases, aka, the immune system not functioning properly, begins there. Pesticides, leaky gut, unbalanced cadida/bacteria(almost ALWAYS from the same antibiotics you proclaim are saviors).
Synthetic drugs are safe? What planet are you on bro? Obviously not the same one I am on where drug companies are being sued left and right for causing serious health problems while treating a "condition". It sounds so funny to hear the commercials talking about the side effects for something relatively minor condition that include death as a side effect. Really? Death is now a side effect? Lol...sounds pretty serious to me. Ever watch daytime TV? Every other commercial is a law firm asking if you have taken an ever expanding list of drugs that has caused serious medical issues or death and to call them to file a lawsuit against the drug manufacturers.
Aspirin is a poor example, as there is increasing evidence aspirin is NOT safe for roughly 1/3 of males who are resistant to it, and in them it causes a greater chance of stroke and heart attack than not taking it. Bromelain, an extract from pineapple, does pretty much the same thing without the side effects.
I will also put cinnamon up against any drug that lowers triglycerides, blood sugar and cholesterol significantly. Look at the studies done on it, few to no drugs have that great of an effect on all 3...we are talking reducing all 3 15-30% within a month time period. No side effects, and costs under $1. Even if there was a drug that could do this, the cost would be extremely high and the side effects probably higher. Never heard of anyone dying from taking 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon twice a day.
Statins are another brilliant drug. Most popular drug out there. The body produces cholesterol in response to inflammation or injury to act as a patch or bandage. Chronic production or overproduction of cholesterol means the body is in a chronically injured or inflamed state. So what do we do? Again, we treat the symptom and not the cause. We tell the body to stop putting band aids on the injury instead of finding out why its getting injured and preventing the inflammation and injury in the first place. Gonna tell me statins aren't dangerous? 900+ studies say you are lying.
Ever hear of a substance called Carvrcrol? It causes the implosion of bacteria by literally sucking the water out of the cell membrane. Pretty hard to become resistant to that. Maybe if Oil of Oregano extract was used more instead of antibiotics we wouldn't be dealing with the drug resistant bacteria that is becoming an epidemic. Ask your doctors about that one and how a few drops in a toilet full of raw sewage totally sterilizes it. I'd be more than happy to put that up against your ever more and more failing antibiotics. Already have in fact. Worked as well if not better than any antibiotic I've ever taken, and it didn't destroy my intestinal flora and predispose me to candida overgrowth either...
You can tell me your synthetic drugs are safe all you want. I know better. I read plenty of studies myself. My Mother was in medical research for 40 years, I am pretty good at discerning what to look for.
In this discussion regarding L-Dopa, once again, Mucuna Pruriens extract has been found to be better, safer, and with many fewer side effects than synthetic L-Dopa at a significantly lower dose. Once again, it all comes down to God knew what he was doing when he added the other things to the L-Dopa that occur naturally. They all work together to balance things in the body. Look up the studies, they are all out there. The researchers were nothing short of stunned as to how this could happen. It lasts longer, has a higher peak concentration, and somehow continues to elevate L-Dopa levels where synthetic did not. It also is neuro-protective instead of neuro-damaging like the synthetic form.
We can have this discussion as many times as you want. You give me a drug that you think is perfect, I'll give you a natural compound that works as effectively, is safer long term, and has few to no side effects. Better yet, if more people would take the time to replace the minerals and vitamins their body loses as we age many of these "diseases" wouldn't come about.
And BTW, if you know anyone with arthritis, let them know a $5 box of Borax can likely cure them within 6-12 months. Israel has one of the highest rates of Boron in the soil and the have a rate of 0.7% arthritis. Jamaica, one of the lowest Boron content in the soil and they have a 70%+ rate of arthritis. Hmm...I dunno, there couldn't be a connection there could there? Seeing as how Boron is to the Parathyroid gland as Iodine is to the Thyroid and seeing as how the Parathyroid controls the Calcium-Magnesium pump and when that doesn't work properly Calcium goes into the muscles, gets stuck there, displacing magnesium that should be there, which then has nowhere to go so it gets flushed out of the body. Probably explains why adding calcium doesn't help much, since its not a lack of calcium at all in most cases, simply that the calcium is stuck in the wrong place with no way out. Look it up bro, tell your doctor to prescribe a $5 box of Borax for arthritis. Trust me, they will never do it, too much money at stake...not enough side effects either...the MSDS basically says its roughly as safe as table salt.
If god really knew what he was doing, would their be a need for any of this **** in the first place? Come on man, logic is your friend. God: gives man ailments and disease so that man can find random plants and herbs to heal the ailments and disease god gave us in the first place?? Sorry, had to comment, not trying to start ****, but if you can logically explain that one I'd be all ears....
Actually, there are logical explanations.If god really knew what he was doing, would their be a need for any of this **** in the first place? Come on man, logic is your friend. God: gives man ailments and disease so that man can find random plants and herbs to heal the ailments and disease god gave us in the first place?? Sorry, had to comment, not trying to start ****, but if you can logically explain that one I'd be all ears....
Does God allow these people to starve, or does he allow humans have free will and allow us to choose to do nothing about it? Everyone has the capability to make a difference, myself included, but most choose to look out for themselves instead of others. Companies, governments, individuals have trillions of dollars they could spend to create environments where that wouldn't happen, yet do nothing, or very little.Noting the above, seeing people in poverty, kids suffering from famine, people suffering from interminable, excruciating diseases, it makes one wonder if there really is a benevolent being. Because if he really was there, would he allow this to happen?
This truly breaks my heart and it is sickening to believe there is a being allowing these poor babies to starve.
Your response totally outlines a world that is not created by a supreme being. According to most religion we are made by god in his image to be his chosen creature in the universe and all other nature is merely there to support us. I have a BS in biology, so I'm not ignorant to the way life on this planet works. That knowledge is what firmly supports my denial of a supreme being watching our backs.Actually, there are logical explanations.
If you consider that all diseases pretty much fall under a few categories.
First are other organisms using mammals as hosts to complete a stage or stages of their life cycle. Sometimes this is very detrimental to their host, including death, sometimes not so much. Some of these organisms can literally control your release and non release of hormones to make the environment suitable for them. Hormones control us, so is it possible that our actions are influenced by the parasites that modify our bodies? Something t o think about I suppose. We forget sometimes that life isn't all about us. There are millions of life forms out there. Some end up harming us, not always intentionally, but as as n end result to ensure they can continue to live. Sometimes diseases are caused by us allowing our bodies alkaline:acid ratio to become out of whack, turning normally friendly organisms that coexist with us into damaging ones(ie Candida). This pleomorphism concept is not really well understood by mainstream research and although they acknowledge it exists, do little to actually facilitate bringing the body back in balance. Still other diseases are caused by us depleting our vitamin and mineral resources in the body over time...these are typically the ones that pop up in mid life as we get older...arthritis, etc...
In many instances we end up causing diseases ourselves. We use pesticides, plastics, genetically modify foods, create substances that destroy our body like trans fat, hydrogenated oils and hundreds of other things we are surrounded by on a daily basis that our bodies don't want. We pollute the air and water with toxins that we breathe, drink and ingest from companies that care more about making money than ed ensuring our environment stays clean. We are a product of our environment and our environment is a toxic disaster. Science gives and it takes away. Every generation of male from the early 1950s til today has seen their levels of Testosterone decline due to environmental pollution and xenoestrogens in plastics and the various daily products we use like shampoo. We eat foods that are pro-inflammatory(whey powder as anyone), that cause our bodies to become inflamed, and are the basis of many diseases.i
We tend to look at things in a vaccuum and don't really see the big picture. We have a lot of control over the diseases we get, outside of genetic ones we can do nothing about. The bottom line is we have caused a lot of our problems ourselves.
Anyone who has the actual power to do something about it is responsible, i.e. GodDoes God allow these people to starve, or does he allow humans have free will and allow us to choose to do nothing about it? Everyone has the capability to make a difference, myself included, but most choose to look out for themselves instead of others. Companies, governments, individuals have trillions of dollars they could spend to create environments where that wouldn't happen, yet do nothing, or very little.
There is no reason for this to exist other than our own greed to always want more and more while giving less to others. Restaurants throw out millions of pounds of food that people pay for and don't eat on a daily basis. Who is really at fault here?
Lol, so your God would walk right behind us carrying the pooper scooper to clean up the messes we make...no, my response outlines a God who gives us free reign to live the way we see fit and then answer for our actions at the end of our days. Otherwise, we wouldn't really have free will, would we. He allowed His Son to be tortured and put to death for our sake, so I don't see how your argument that he wouldn't allow bad things to happen gets there...Your response totally outlines a world that is not created by a supreme being. According to most religion we are made by god in his image to be his chosen creature in the universe and all other nature is merely there to support us. I have a BS in biology, so I'm not ignorant to the way life on this planet works. That knowledge is what firmly supports my denial of a supreme being watching our backs.
Oh and your free will argument is weak. Seems to me a creator that loves his creation doesn't allow said creation to suffer unimaginable pain and distress going through some kind of "test life." That's not godly, that's sadistic. No god I would even think of worshiping would be that evil.
No disrespect but I love the shît outta you!No disrespect but this is a supplement thread for dopadex. Can you please continue this conversation in private messages or the general chat section.
Thanks guys,
Should be very soon if in not mistaken. I just got word it arrived at the warehouse this week. I'm waiting on some myself.ETA of Dopadex in stock status at the Planet?
Hehe I'm happy I still have a mini stock pile of Dopadex in my supplement collection. It seriously no gimmicks gives me some of the best sleep I've had.Should be very soon if in not mistaken. I just got word it arrived at the warehouse this week. I'm waiting on some myself.
Yea, it's good stuff at a great price.Hehe I'm happy I still have a mini stock pile of Dopadex in my supplement collection. It seriously no gimmicks gives me some of the best sleep I've had.
I don`t experience any bad side effects nor any positive effects from using normal Mucuna with low percentage of l-dopa or almost pure l-dopa.I am missing out? Pfft...yeah OK. My parents are both nutritional nuts and have lived on vitamins and minerals ever since I was growing up, researching and reading book after book about natural health remedies. They literally could start a library with the books they have on it. My Dad is almost 70 and my Mom is 76, and have never been in the hospital, rarely go to the doctor and are in perfect health. The doctor told them whatever they are doing to keep on doing it because they take no drugs at all(other than my mother taking thyroid since hypothyroidism runs in the family---natural not synthetic as it has been shown to be more effective---gee who realized God knew what he was doing when he created natural thyroid hormone with the 4 different types that have since been found to ALL play roles in the healthy and normal functioning of the thyroid instead of the one found in the synthetic kind), and are healthier than most people in their 40s. Coincidence? Doubt it. I don't know what the percentage of people not on medication is after age 45 or 50, but I am pretty sure its probably under 20%. After age 70?? Probably under 5%...
The answer from dermatologists is to put me on enbrel or humira or something similar...basically poison the immune system instead of figuring out why its going haywire. Never going to happen. Never in my lifetime. After I told my dermatologist that I refused to allow myself to be poisoned, she looked at me and said "You are one of the smartest patients I have ever had." 80% of the immune system resides in the intestines, so any autoimmune disease starts there. Heal the problem in the intestines(normally "leaky gut" or something similar), and you resolve the condition. The answer to autoimmune diseases, aka, the immune system not functioning properly, begins there. Pesticides, leaky gut, unbalanced cadida/bacteria(almost ALWAYS from the same antibiotics you proclaim are saviors).
Synthetic drugs are safe? What planet are you on bro? Obviously not the same one I am on where drug companies are being sued left and right for causing serious health problems while treating a "condition". It sounds so funny to hear the commercials talking about the side effects for something relatively minor condition that include death as a side effect. Really? Death is now a side effect? Lol...sounds pretty serious to me. Ever watch daytime TV? Every other commercial is a law firm asking if you have taken an ever expanding list of drugs that has caused serious medical issues or death and to call them to file a lawsuit against the drug manufacturers.
Aspirin is a poor example, as there is increasing evidence aspirin is NOT safe for roughly 1/3 of males who are resistant to it, and in them it causes a greater chance of stroke and heart attack than not taking it. Bromelain, an extract from pineapple, does pretty much the same thing without the side effects.
I will also put cinnamon up against any drug that lowers triglycerides, blood sugar and cholesterol significantly. Look at the studies done on it, few to no drugs have that great of an effect on all 3...we are talking reducing all 3 15-30% within a month time period. No side effects, and costs under $1. Even if there was a drug that could do this, the cost would be extremely high and the side effects probably higher. Never heard of anyone dying from taking 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon twice a day.
Statins are another brilliant drug. Most popular drug out there. The body produces cholesterol in response to inflammation or injury to act as a patch or bandage. Chronic production or overproduction of cholesterol means the body is in a chronically injured or inflamed state. So what do we do? Again, we treat the symptom and not the cause. We tell the body to stop putting band aids on the injury instead of finding out why its getting injured and preventing the inflammation and injury in the first place. Gonna tell me statins aren't dangerous? 900+ studies say you are lying.
Ever hear of a substance called Carvrcrol? It causes the implosion of bacteria by literally sucking the water out of the cell membrane. Pretty hard to become resistant to that. Maybe if Oil of Oregano extract was used more instead of antibiotics we wouldn't be dealing with the drug resistant bacteria that is becoming an epidemic. Ask your doctors about that one and how a few drops in a toilet full of raw sewage totally sterilizes it. I'd be more than happy to put that up against your ever more and more failing antibiotics. Already have in fact. Worked as well if not better than any antibiotic I've ever taken, and it didn't destroy my intestinal flora and predispose me to candida overgrowth either...
You can tell me your synthetic drugs are safe all you want. I know better. I read plenty of studies myself. My Mother was in medical research for 40 years, I am pretty good at discerning what to look for.
In this discussion regarding L-Dopa, once again, Mucuna Pruriens extract has been found to be better, safer, and with many fewer side effects than synthetic L-Dopa at a significantly lower dose. Once again, it all comes down to God knew what he was doing when he added the other things to the L-Dopa that occur naturally. They all work together to balance things in the body. Look up the studies, they are all out there. The researchers were nothing short of stunned as to how this could happen. It lasts longer, has a higher peak concentration, and somehow continues to elevate L-Dopa levels where synthetic did not. It also is neuro-protective instead of neuro-damaging like the synthetic form.
We can have this discussion as many times as you want. You give me a drug that you think is perfect, I'll give you a natural compound that works as effectively, is safer long term, and has few to no side effects. Better yet, if more people would take the time to replace the minerals and vitamins their body loses as we age many of these "diseases" wouldn't come about.
And BTW, if you know anyone with arthritis, let them know a $5 box of Borax can likely cure them within 6-12 months. Israel has one of the highest rates of Boron in the soil and the have a rate of 0.7% arthritis. Jamaica, one of the lowest Boron content in the soil and they have a 70%+ rate of arthritis. Hmm...I dunno, there couldn't be a connection there could there? Seeing as how Boron is to the Parathyroid gland as Iodine is to the Thyroid and seeing as how the Parathyroid controls the Calcium-Magnesium pump and when that doesn't work properly Calcium goes into the muscles, gets stuck there, displacing magnesium that should be there, which then has nowhere to go so it gets flushed out of the body. Probably explains why adding calcium doesn't help much, since its not a lack of calcium at all in most cases, simply that the calcium is stuck in the wrong place with no way out. Look it up bro, tell your doctor to prescribe a $5 box of Borax for arthritis. Trust me, they will never do it, too much money at stake...not enough side effects either...the MSDS basically says its roughly as safe as table salt.
Interested in this tooCan anyone provide some info on b6/p5p negating/affecting the dopamine boost from mucuna? I supplement with b's throughout the day and would like to know if that would render this type of supplement useless, or if you just need to watch the timing of the respective supplements. Thanks.
Paging mr cooperIs it necessary to take ecgc with the dopadex to get its full benefits? I'm reading conflicting info regarding that (as well as the b6/p5p negating it's effects)
Good info since a few products are combining p5p and l-dopa...I wouldn't have thought about the combination being negative.Already got the answer via PM. Apparently depends on what you're trying to accomplish with l-dopa and if you really want to take 5g ecgc. Doesn't fit what I'm going for, but happy to get a straight forward answer. Thanks though, bro
Edit: Realized you were looking for the same answer -- I was told no, it's not necessary to take ecgc, and yes, b6/p5p will battle to be taken by the same pathways as the dopa, so space them out if you're taking both.
From what I understand, when they're combined the reaction happens outside the bbb, so the effects resulting in reduced prolactin are still achieved, but the mental benefits of the l-dopa are diminished. So if prolactin is your only focus, I believe a product like inhibit-P which combines them (and vitex) achieves that goal.Good info since a few products are combining p5p and l-dopa...I wouldn't have thought about the combination being negative.
I would also assume that's fine. As I said above, I've come across others who are more knowledgeable than myself who suggested spacing them out as you did allows you achieve prolactin control from both angles without them competing with each other.Well PES amino iv is the only product I take with p5p in it and that's taken in the afternoon and dopa product is taken at bed time often at 11-midnight or later. So I'm assuming 6-8 hours is ok......
Does p5p affect prolactin then if it competes with dopa? Does it raise or lower prolactin
It lowers itWell PES amino iv is the only product I take with p5p in it and that's taken in the afternoon and dopa product is taken at bed time often at 11-midnight or later. So I'm assuming 6-8 hours is ok......
Does p5p affect prolactin then if it competes with dopa? Does it raise or lower prolactin
Well I'll tell you one thing that isn't hype. Take dopadex for a few weeks then comment on orgasm quality...dead serious. Sex will never be the sameFrom what I understand, when they're combined the reaction happens outside the bbb, so the effects resulting in reduced prolactin are still achieved, but the mental benefits of the l-dopa are diminished. So if prolactin is your only focus, I believe a product like inhibit-P which combines them (and vitex) achieves that goal.
Again, I was basically given the run down for dummies, so I could be off here, but that's how I understood what was told to me.
In my particular case, lowering/keeping prolactin in check is a goal, but I was also interested in getting a deeper, uninterrupted sleep because I tend to toss and turn throughout the night.
I take some b6 in the morning/early afternoon and take the dopadex later in the day/pre-bed in order to get the best of both worlds. I've seen this method suggested in other forums, and people reported having success with it.
I do think a lot of people overstate the benefits of the L-dopa, personally. I see people giving feedback about a supercharged attitude and confidence as if they've ingested molly at a rave. But whatever, I guess if they *think* it's working, that could be beneficial in itself.
I never got this effect...and now I feel like I am missing out big time! Is this something almost everyone gets from L-dopa supps???Well I'll tell you one thing that isn't hype. Take dopadex for a few weeks then comment on orgasm quality...dead serious. Sex will never be the same
Taking test powder with my amino IV= good/bad idea?? Test powder having200mg mucuna (seed) extract and amino IV w the p5p... Should I be trying to spread these out? Or no issue? Thanks coopIt lowers it