Atleast the PS/PH forum should be a subforum of the steroid forum.I really think their should be forum for steroids, and a forum for prosteroids/prohormones. But that is me.
Atleast the PS/PH forum should be a subforum of the steroid forum.I really think their should be forum for steroids, and a forum for prosteroids/prohormones. But that is me.
You quoted SoCo4Fun's comment basically saying that PS/PHs are not real steroids. He said nothing about calling dienolone precursors Tren, hence any confusion and why I asked what's annoying.Where did I say they weren't steroids and/or steroid derivatives and/or hormones? Calling Prodienolone, Trenbolone is the same as calling Testosterone, Nandralone Undeclynate. I find it annoying that people are calling a particular compound by another compound's name. Hence the thread title, "Stop ****ing Saying Tren".
:frustrate: NOO!!!! you may not say fina cycle in place of a finiplex clone, FINA is also already taken by trenbolone as well.So i can say "doods check out my fina cycle" when referring to my finiplix clones right?
Btw if I could I would use tren 24/7-365. Which tren is for you to decide and for me to know.
let us call them NDD's, because the compound in question is actually "nordienedione".Trenbolone is 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one, is most often injected in its Acetate or Enanthate ester forms, and is not sold commercially.
Please, for the sweet fvcking love of Jesus Christ, STOP making 'Epi/Tren', 'Tren or Havoc', and 'TREN HELP!?', threads.
If you bought it in a store, or over the internet on a retailer: it is not Trenbolone, does not contain Trenbolone, does not convert to Trenbolone, and never will do any of the aforementioned things. You are not taking Tren.
Thank you.
It's really fvcking annoying, IMO.
What was the reasoning? You can't find **** without wading through endless ph/crap post.this will never happen, the owner already said it wont
Well, trenbolone is a 19Nor as well, so there is no real reason to give that designation. Both Dienolone and Trenbolone are nandrolone derivatives.let us call them NDD's, because the compound in question is actually "nordienedione".
Yes, but the very word "Tren" is dereived from "triene", meaning 3 double bonds, thus the lacking of double bond makes it a complete misrepresentation of the compound. That was the basis of my suggestion.Well, trenbolone is a 19Nor as well, so there is no real reason to give that designation. Both Dienolone and Trenbolone are nandrolone derivatives.
lmfao...didn't think anybody else remembered that shickety! you gotta be older than what your profile says thenIt makes me cry like the Indian from the 1970's littering commercials.
NOPE! he is as old as he states. He just watches weird shows and downloads a bunch of junk off the interweb! :lol:lmfao...didn't think anybody else remembered that shickety! you gotta be older than what your profile says then
I wish Admin would make this thread mandatory viewing anytime the syllables 'T' 'R' 'E' 'N' are used in sequential order, including if the 'E' is missing.Tren.
Trenirific thread you have going on here. Carry on.
Ask me anything not worth knowing. Chances are I know it.NOPE! he is as old as he states. He just watches weird shows and downloads a bunch of junk off the interweb! :lol:
IDK, if Methoxy-TRN was what the literature suggested, it was pretty damn close to being tren; moreover, the people at Kilosports tested the stuff to see what it "really" was and found their test sample to contain actual trenbolone. Makes you wonder sometimes.I wish Admin would make this thread mandatory viewing anytime the syllables 'T' 'R' 'E' 'N' are used in sequential order, including if the 'E' is missing.
Thread Really Exemplifies Nonsense.Tren.
Trenirific thread you have going on here. Carry on.
Coach: Hey, Norm. What do you know?Ask me anything not worth knowing. Chances are I know it.
True, though Author admitted on this very site the name was a careful strategy of marketing, and was not related to the chemistry of the compound.IDK, if Methoxy-TRN was what the literature suggested, it was pretty damn close to being tren; moreover, the people at Kilosports tested the stuff to see what it "really" was and found their test sample to contain actual trenbolone. Makes you wonder sometimes.
I can never find the thread, but Author specifically states that Mega-TRN was not Trenbolone and was not related to Tren via any conversions, whether pre- or post-ingestion. Apparently, the true nature of the compound was rather proprietary, as the nomenclature is babble.Yeah, I couldn't ever figure that one out. First, wasn't it dosed at like 3mg per capsule? If it was 17b-Methoxy, then it would be weaker than straight Tren which orally is never taken at under 100mg a day (even that isn't supposed to work well). That's why I could never figure out what the hell Methyoxy Tren was ever supposed to be...I did know people that took the 3mg version and said it was quite potent. Only thing I can fathom is it is 17aMethyl 17bMethoxy Tren? Is that even possible to synthesize?
Making an ether would be easier to do than esterification because there isn't that extra oxygen to strain against the methyl.Yeah, I couldn't ever figure that one out. First, wasn't it dosed at like 3mg per capsule? If it was 17b-Methoxy, then it would be weaker than straight Tren which orally is never taken at under 100mg a day (even that isn't supposed to work well). That's why I could never figure out what the hell Methyoxy Tren was ever supposed to be...I did know people that took the 3mg version and said it was quite potent. Only thing I can fathom is it is 17aMethyl 17bMethoxy Tren? Is that even possible to synthesize?
lol. the odds of a newb naming a thread "question about dienelone" is pretty slim. i almost think that a mod should make a "tren/dienelone" subsection or "newbies read this first", as it seems 3-4 times a week, a new thread comes up.Trenbolone is 17β-Hydroxyestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one, is most often injected in its Acetate or Enanthate ester forms, and is not sold commercially.
Please, for the sweet ****ing love of Jesus Christ, STOP making 'Epi/Tren', 'Tren or Havoc', and 'TREN HELP!?', threads.
If you bought it in a store, or over the internet on a retailer: it is not Trenbolone, does not contain Trenbolone, does not convert to Trenbolone, and never will do any of the aforementioned things. You are not taking Tren.
Thank you.
Good point...we must be the same ageI think this just goes with the times. I mean there was a time when if you said your on drol it meant A-boms and if you said Halo it meant Halotestin. Now everytime i use those two i have to clarify what i mean.
With those stats man, you can call it what ever the hell you want. :sgrin:It cool if I just call it Tdrol?
Dude, it does make sense. 'Tren' is Trenbolone, in its ester forms, not Trena, Trena-Plex, Tren-X, and so on. Those companies intentionally capitalize on the name in order to cross-promote.
Call it by its trade name, it is not Tren.[/QUOTE]
I think this would cut down on the confusion.
dang thats crazy.makes u wonder if whats on the back of these bottles is really whats in it.is it too far fetched to think these companies arent 100 percent honest?for some reason americells tren seemed to work really good compared to other "tren" knockoffs.who knows.i wouldnt be suprised if some of these ph's/ps's are spiked with something.especially with all the different companies and brands there are.I donno, a buddy of mine took Kilosports trenadrol and failed a drugtest (for mma license) for trenbolone. I dont think he would lie to me
my best guess would be something similar to trenbolone or deca, but not exactly the same...i always assumed that these phs converted to tren at a low rate the same way that furaz converts to winstrol, etc....
wtf is in trenadrol then?!
I donno, a buddy of mine took Kilosports trenadrol and failed a drugtest (for mma license) for trenbolone. I dont think he would lie to me
They areas even ATD has been known to create a false positive for Equipoise and those are not even close.
its not that simple, a bunch of them are greyish. Like m1,4add for instance or halodrol. both have intrinsic steroidal properties, and both convert. Testosterone is a prohormone to DHT.... so adding another section will just give more room for people who like to complain to complain.its the manufacturing companies faults.half of the people who say tren on here are referring to the prohormones that bear the name.most people dont even know what real tren is.this problem could easily be solved if they just made a seperate prohormone/designer steroid section on here :thumbsup:
They are
Well, they're kinda close. ATD & boldenone share double-bonds at the 1 & 4 position, but ATD has another one at 6 along with a ketone at 17. I guess some types of assays could mix them up.
ATD - androst-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione
EQ - androst-1,4-diene-3-one-17-ol
ATD has also caused false-positives for testosterone if an older assay type is used...