What about hauling ass?Exactly. So many people half-ass PCT. (speaking of half-assing, is half-assing something better or worse than full-assing something? I mean we should be striving to no-ass things right?)
What about hauling ass?Exactly. So many people half-ass PCT. (speaking of half-assing, is half-assing something better or worse than full-assing something? I mean we should be striving to no-ass things right?)
Got a big cargo of ass coming in I need you to haul.What about hauling ass?
Heading there Doug!!Haul ass into my PCT Log
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/redefine-nutrition/209847-pct-time-long.html
How are your joints feeling on it Rick? I love how I react to Formestane I just can't take a lot.Dosed FormaSurge at 4 pumps (2 pumpsx2)
Well, I was surprised to wake up today and look lean as hell, and a scale weight that was about a half pound less than yesterday, despite the HUGE amount of carbs I had yesterday. I do look very full from the carb up, but just very very dry and lean this morning. Probably more dry and lean than I have looked for a very long time! So, this tells me that the water is falling right off of me. This is probably from a couple different things. First, the test in my system is going down by the day, so the water retained from it is getting less and less....and also the FormaSurge I've been running to lower the water and estrogen further, especially considering the higher dose of Formestane I've been running (150mg). So now I am lowering the dose back down to a more normal dose of 4 pumps per day at 100mg Forma.
Needless to say, at only 6 days on FormaSurge, I'm very pleased with the quick and impressive results from it so far! :thumbsup:
Did some LISS cardio this morning walking the treadmill for 60 minutes (3.5 MPH@10% incline) burning a total of 750 cals. This helped make me look dry and lean even further, and I'm strongly considering taking some pics this weekend, because of how pleased I am with how I look right now. I really need some beginning of PCT pics anyways. :yup:
Speaking of PCT, I decided to start PCT supplements today, instead of 2 days from now so I'm calling this day 1 of 30 for PCT. My last pin was a lower dose than normal, so my thinking is that my levels are probably down enough to the point that starting PCT now makes perfect sense. A couple days really wouldn't make a difference either way, but anyways I started today!
So far, my joints feel great. It will be interesting to see if that continues through the next few weeks, but hopefully I can stay away from having any joint pain or issuesHow are your joints feeling on it Rick? I love how I react to Formestane I just can't take a lot.
Here's to hoping for no joint pain!So far, my joints feel great. It will be interesting to see if that continues through the next few weeks, but hopefully I can stay away from having any joint pain or issues
Glad you've enjoyed the forma!As far as FormaSurge, it has done well to keep libido up, keep me lean and dry, and give me the push in the gym that I need while my natty levels are tanked. Everything that I have expected has been delivered thus far :thumbsup:
Yeh, I know that is what the weight is...but it still sucks to see the scale go downGlad you've enjoyed the forma!
Don't stress too much about that weight loss, it's more than likely just water/glycogen.
Yeh that's right where I am also. On a positive note, I look damn lean right now!i hear you rick, i am down 3lbs since starting formasurge.
I feel you man, I feel you, haha.Yeh, I know that is what the weight is...but it still sucks to see the scale go down
I would love to drop down some pounds and be lean, trust me size is all good and well but being leaner makes you look a lot bigger as you know. 225 and over 14% is great, I would be happy with 210 and under 10% . Forma sounds awesome, I can't wait to get my hands on some! A rep and I can't even get any!!!!Yeh, I know that is what the weight is...but it still sucks to see the scale go down
Yeh that's right where I am also. On a positive note, I look damn lean right now!
Yeh bro, being lean is my gig for sure. It's also the reason that Forma is one of my favorite products. Being lean is one thing, but being dry is another. You can be under 8% and bloated a little and the guy that is a dry 10% will look leaner. Extra water can wash out and blur definition so much. Luckily Forma takes care of that, even with eating extra and having more carbs!I would love to drop down some pounds and be lean, trust me size is all good and well but being leaner makes you look a lot bigger as you know. 225 and over 14% is great, I would be happy with 210 and under 10% . Forma sounds awesome, I can't wait to get my hands on some! A rep and I can't even get any!!!!
Yah I imagine you are just drying up Rick no need for concern ....
to me formasurge seems very potent...really reminds me of e-form, the product that got me crazy about formestane!!!FormaSurge is continuing to impress me each day. I have stuck to the 4 pumps per day dose doing 2 pumps in the AM and another 2 pumps in the evening. It has done incredible for me on keeping me lean and dry, despite increasing my cals quite a but in PCT, and adding carbs as well. I am pretty carb sensitive, and tend to bloat easy if I take in a decent amount of carbs, so it says a lot on how powerful and effective FormaSurge is at keeping the bloat and water weight off of you during this time!
My libido is still very high, and really hasn't changed from what it was on cycle, so that is another big bonus. I've been dosing the AformaSurge preworkout, which has also seemed to add to my energy and motivation in the gym. That is a very good thing, because sometimes PCT can be hard to find those things when your test levels are down. My strength and performance in the gym, as well as my size and fullness has been excellent. All measurements are still the same as they were on cycle. SO far, SO GOOD!!!
DC Workout 2A (Biceps, Forearms, Calves, Hamstrings, Quads)
Alternate DB Curls (rest, pause)
60sx10x6x4
DB Hammer Curls (rest, pause)
60sx12
Seated calf raise (straight set with enhanced negative)
150x10
Leg curls (rest, pause)
200x12x5x5
Squats (straight sets)
315x10
245x20 (widowmaker)
Serious workout Rick, I like the setup a lot. I assume you are taking something preworkout besides just formasurge, right? I know PCT does suck, after a few that went ok and the last one where I just was unbearable to be around, I decided to just blast and cruise (low dose compared to many), life is much better now.FormaSurge is continuing to impress me each day. I have stuck to the 4 pumps per day dose doing 2 pumps in the AM and another 2 pumps in the evening. It has done incredible for me on keeping me lean and dry, despite increasing my cals quite a but in PCT, and adding carbs as well. I am pretty carb sensitive, and tend to bloat easy if I take in a decent amount of carbs, so it says a lot on how powerful and effective FormaSurge is at keeping the bloat and water weight off of you during this time!
My libido is still very high, and really hasn't changed from what it was on cycle, so that is another big bonus. I've been dosing the AformaSurge preworkout, which has also seemed to add to my energy and motivation in the gym. That is a very good thing, because sometimes PCT can be hard to find those things when your test levels are down. My strength and performance in the gym, as well as my size and fullness has been excellent. All measurements are still the same as they were on cycle. SO far, SO GOOD!!!
DC Workout 2A (Biceps, Forearms, Calves, Hamstrings, Quads)
Alternate DB Curls (rest, pause)
60sx10x6x4
DB Hammer Curls (rest, pause)
60sx12
Seated calf raise (straight set with enhanced negative)
150x10
Leg curls (rest, pause)
200x12x5x5
Squats (straight sets)
315x10
245x20 (widowmaker)
FormaSurge is continuing to impress me each day. I have stuck to the 4 pumps per day dose doing 2 pumps in the AM and another 2 pumps in the evening. It has done incredible for me on keeping me lean and dry, despite increasing my cals quite a but in PCT, and adding carbs as well. I am pretty carb sensitive, and tend to bloat easy if I take in a decent amount of carbs, so it says a lot on how powerful and effective FormaSurge is at keeping the bloat and water weight off of you during this time!
My libido is still very high, and really hasn't changed from what it was on cycle, so that is another big bonus. I've been dosing the AformaSurge preworkout, which has also seemed to add to my energy and motivation in the gym. That is a very good thing, because sometimes PCT can be hard to find those things when your test levels are down. My strength and performance in the gym, as well as my size and fullness has been excellent. All measurements are still the same as they were on cycle. SO far, SO GOOD!!!
DC Workout 2A (Biceps, Forearms, Calves, Hamstrings, Quads)
Alternate DB Curls (rest, pause)
60sx10x6x4
DB Hammer Curls (rest, pause)
60sx12
Seated calf raise (straight set with enhanced negative)
150x10
Leg curls (rest, pause)
200x12x5x5
Squats (straight sets)
315x10
245x20 (widowmaker)
Yeh, but at least in my experience, PCT is usually pretty easy until that 2nd and 3rd week. That's when the real battle begins....at least for me.Yah I am talking no libido hit whatsoever as a matter of fact I don't feel any kind of side....or shutdown.. I guess it's cuz in a way a tapered at the end when I stopped the EPI 3 weeks before the Epi-V...
Ive been very pleased with it thus far. It does seem to be dosed well, and very strong stuff!to me formasurge seems very potent...really reminds me of e-form, the product that got me crazy about formestane!!!
Man, I really am contemplating doing that myself. I know I would enjoy that so much more with no more PCT and having to deal with the roller coaster. After PCT is done when I get bloodwork, if my test levels are low, I'm going that route without questionSerious workout Rick, I like the setup a lot. I assume you are taking something preworkout besides just formasurge, right? I know PCT does suck, after a few that went ok and the last one where I just was unbearable to be around, I decided to just blast and cruise (low dose compared to many), life is much better now.
I love it man. DC is the shyt!Man I love the look of these DC workouts, Definitely going to switch to DC for my bulk in October, pretty sure..
Yah I find that it works for some of the younger guys, didn't do a lot for me, my ex-trainer said it was cuz I had a lot of mature muscle and wouldn't respond to the low volume...I really need to give DC a shot. I keep hearing about its greatness
I know a lot of older and very successful bodybuilders that live by DC, but yeh everyone is different. Its all about what works best for you.Yah I find that it works for some of the younger guys, didn't do a lot for me, my ex-trainer said it was cuz I had a lot of mature muscle and wouldn't respond to the low volume...
For sure....I'm still very happy with how things have went so far. Its been almost 3 weeks since my last injection, and i m still progressing. Today's workout is a perfect example. Ostarine may have a hand in there as well, but regardless it was an awesome gym session. I will update with details laterYah Rick Second week for sure I think we are still feeling the cycle a week in...
I have the better part of 3 bottles of Ostarine Rx in my cupboard saving it for bridge... I wll keep all the Finaflex products going for a while also...going to be a good bridge this time I think....For sure....I'm still very happy with how things have went so far. Its been almost 3 weeks since my last injection, and i m still progressing. Today's workout is a perfect example. Ostarine may have a hand in there as well, but regardless it was an awesome gym session. I will update with details later
PCT is...Rick, could we get your full PCT plan, i saw your other thread but i was wondering about dosages, scheduling.... Especially the ostarine..
Sounds like a good plan Doug!I have the better part of 3 bottles of Ostarine Rx in my cupboard saving it for bridge... I wll keep all the Finaflex products going for a while also...going to be a good bridge this time I think....
awesome... i have been getting shockingly good results on a Hella/Katana re-comp and i want to make sure i nail the PCT...PCT is...
Clomid 50/50/50/50
unleashed-3 caps per day
phytoserms-1 cap per day
DAA-3g per day
Formasurge- 4 pumps per day
ostarine-25mg per day (dosed in morning on empty stomach)
Thanks a lot Dave! I'm hoping that a year from now, I will be about the same body fat but closer to 185. That's my goal anyways, so we will see how that goes. I have a winter cycle, and another one next summer to make that happenYou look great man. I have said it before but your work ethic and dedication is what makes this kind of aesthetic look possible. The supplements are just a tool to achieve these type of results. You are the man! Keep it up can't wait to see your progress in another year!
Cool! Hella and Katana re recomp heavenawesome... i have been getting shockingly good results on a Hella/Katana re-comp and i want to make sure i nail the PCT...
Thanks man!looking good boss
Beast mode Rick! The python you have running over your deltoid is badass, this guy is not vascular at all so I am always in awe of those that are.Here are my newest set of pics! These are a pretty good indication of just how dry and ripped you can look on FormaSurge!
I have felt incredible on it, and I have been looking dry and shredded with no bloat regardless of the amount of carbs I eat!
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What do you mean Doug? And yes, he is looking good in PCT.Holy crap! you are fuggin dry and lookng sup 5% as well fuggin hard too... what a great idea for PCT. I could have stayed really dry if I went that route...
Thanks! I am definitely happy with how things are going. Hopefully I can continue to keep things going that direction through the rest of my PCT.God damn Rick!! I'm glad to see FormaSurge is treating you so well!! You looked dry as all hell!
Thanks Tom!rick'ripped'rock...
Haha, yeh that vein comes up real nice when flexing...lol. I love that vein!Beast mode Rick! The python you have running over your deltoid is badass, this guy is not vascular at all so I am always in awe of those that are.
Yeh bro, I have veins that have been coming in all over. Drying out with the FormaSurge has really made some of them shineI just zoomed in on the back spread... there are veins sticking out there too!! WTF?! Lol
Well, I'm not quite that low. From my last measurements I'm still at 6%, or slightly lower...but the dryness I'm getting from FormaSurge is certainly making me appear even leanerHoly crap! you are fuggin dry and lookng sup 5% as well fuggin hard too... what a great idea for PCT. I could have stayed really dry if I went that route...
Thanks fin! I just gotta keep it going and kill this PCT!!! I feel great, so everything is gong better than I could have planned thus farWhat do you mean Doug? And yes, he is looking good in PCT.
Thanks Tom!!nice workout, rick...and i agree about the formasurge.
You look phenominal bro..sj
I've had some very succesful PCTs, but this one definitely takes the cake as the best one yet so far. I'm about halfway through it, so if I can keep up and maintain everything from here, I will be one happy camper!Quite possibly one the best PCTs I've seen. I'm really glad that it's going so well for you