" I dont like the guy" ---" I think the guys a ****"...ok there i said it
Now I'm even more confused about his "involvement" with Bulbine
Ar makes nothing of the prolenses and has no stake in it. Other then Bragging rights and that is the way he likes it from what I know of AR these days. He has no interest in "braking into" the supplement industry in anyway, and his days of having stake or having anything to do with the profits of supplements are over from what I know. He's a reporter and writer by trade and that is what he wants to do most in his life..
At the same time Ar is friends with a lot of people and he likes to be involved with innovated things still. He still has a lot of interest in the industry and a lot of his friends own everything from supplement manufacturing companies to scientist who test herbs and such..
The time line on the story above coincides almost perfectly as to how things went with me and AR. AR contacted me about Apr or may of 2010 and was talking to me about this new Herb he was studying and doing testing on for some friends of his. Said there was not going to be a lot of this herb and the place doing the testing would be looking for a "Mid sized" good name company to be the company to bring it to market.
Over the years AR and I have been friends and although many people hate him for what ever reasons I have never had reasons to. He helped me get my First mod spot and start over on EF and we have been friends ever since.
So naturally this is why when Ar's friends started describing the kind of company they were looking for he tossed my name into the hate and the ball started rolling from there. At the time I was buying out Brutalalchemy and starting a new company Ruthless.com so I asked if it be ok if We brought the new herb/product out under this brand name... Little hesitate at first ( makers of prolnesis are very picky with who they give and what there proleniss goes into) they went for it. Contracts got drawn up and we ( ruthless.inc) had Test bottle being tested back in july of 2010 ( under the name Product x) being put out to the general public. All the test AR and the makers of prolensis did came back great and our "product x" testers one of whom was Andrew a well known member of this site was giving us great feed back. Another was radar a well known and respected long time member of ef and he was also very impressed.
The bottles we put out for testing were exactly what we were going to put out for a product. We even split the product up 1 cap twice a day with just the prolensis in it and the other 1 cap twice a day with the other ingredients in it Jeff stork aka quadsweep from elite and Rxmuscle was another one of our testers and through phone conversations with him he was also enjoying the product..
Before anyone had even dreamed of the product ( save maybe Iforce) we had already been there from the very start of it all. Doing studies and putting out test bottles as far back as July of last year.
All I know is there was a few HUGE deciding factors this herb was put out through NTBM/ruthless.inc first .. If there was billions of pounds of Good bulbine around. Enough for the makers of prolensis to make crap loads of it.. YOu think for a second a small mid sized company like NTBM/Ruthless.inc would have any chance in hell at getting to be the first company to come out with it?????? NO it happen for a reason. Because we fit the exact mold they needed at the time.
Dont think for a second other much larger companies were not biting at the bit for this. Carl Linor from super human radio and Anthony Roberts Both put in good words for me and my companies and that along with the fact that we were perfect for the job made it all come together the way it did.
For that I thank both of them as I always have for being good friends.