Here's info for these two products. Also make sure to check out some 1 and 4 andro stacks on here in the supplement logs section. Super mandro and andro the giant is a pretty common one with suffiicient dosage.
Scroll down about 10 threads to the PH dosing guide, then to the andro user guide at the bottom of the first post and read up. It will give you a ton of info. I'd post a link but it won't let me since I don't have 100 posts yet.
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