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It has nothing to do with religion as least not for me; it's just a method of building up energy.

If you expel to much energy you will start losing nutrients and there fore deplete hormones over time. You can't except men to have an ultimated amount of ejaculations. Plus on top of that you have someone who weight lifts hard, eats poorly, your bound to shoot yourself in the foot.
Why do you think old time bodybuilders and boxers would abstain during training? They obviously did this for a reason.

I'm not saying masturbating is bad. I just think it should be done in moderation and not give in to every time you have an urge. You should only have sex if possible.

Some teachers and practitioners of Traditional Chinese medicine, Taoist meditative and martial arts say that masturbation can cause a lowered energy level in men. They say that ejaculation in this way reduces "origin qi" from dantian, the energy center located in the lower abdomen. Some maintain that sex with a partner does not do this because the partners replenish each other's qi. Some practitioners therefore say that males should not practice martial arts for at least 48 hours after masturbation while others prescribe up to six months, because the loss of Origin Qi does not allow new qi to be created for this kind of time.
 

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Why do you think old time bodybuilders and boxers would abstain during training? They obviously did this for a reason.
New flash... old time bodybuilders and boxers could in no way, shape or form compete with today's athletes. "Old time" doctor's also used to bleed people with leeches... and the Chinese medicine that you keep hailing sticks small pins in people and light them on fire...
 

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News flash. now today we give people weight loss drugs, hair loss, erectile dysfunction drugs and cut peoples stomachs out because were to fat..
I think some of the old time boxers could give todays a run for there money
at least old time body builders were natural, not these freak shows today.
 

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I guess all the cheesburgers and sodas is doing the trick..

thats not true btw.
 
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Ok, i read threw all of this garbage and i have a few things to say.

1) I'd sleep with Jake's ex wife also.. Only because i will fukk anything that walks.. and i still wanna bone Jay 24 and I'd also like to lick Roids' Lats.

2) Jerking off excessively: From what i read (and dont ask for a source) can be good as it stimulates your body's need to produce more semen and other manly like stuff in your system.. so it's safe to say, if you JO alot, you could be big like Roids.

3) Jerking off Rarely: Again, this works from what i know. I studied Martial Arts for a few years and Learned from many top competitors that not come'ing two weeks to a competition was very very important. As they may lose their "Power" or w/e they wished to name it. So if you're an ugly ass Fukk like Supmax or engival you should be masters with all the Power you've built up over your entire virgin life.

4) Jerking off only a little: This is where the problems truly lays. You're not encourging your body to stimulate more juice nor are you saving up your Qi or Power for a great Boxing Bout or a Heavy Training Session. You're just in the middle sucking the Pene on the sidelines, watching the Real men at work

5) And last but not least, I would like to change my mind about sleeping with Jake's ex wife... I only want a few nakeds... here's my email "[email protected]"

God bless all you men, and I wish you much luck with JO left or Right Handed...



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I studied Martial Arts for a few years and Learned from many top competitors that not come'ing two weeks to a competition was very very important. As they may lose their "Power" or w/e they wished to name it.
Or maybe it's because they're so frustrated and irate that they're ready to pound the guys standing in front of them... the ones wearing snide grins because they just got laid.

So if you're an ugly ass Fukk like Supmax or engival you should be masters with all the Power you've built up over your entire virgin life.
Don't doubt the power of dumb. Remember... anything is possible if you don't know what you're talking about. :lol:

Okay, because you posted that... I'm willing to concede that you do, without question, have the best home gym.
 
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LOL, I do have the best home gym lol Some people have seen it :)
 

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. So if you're an ugly ass Fukk like Supmax or engival
no offense but im much better looking than you..
your fairly fat.
 

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i cant imagine many girls sleeping with you.. your not even average look. terribly face. really nerdy looking. big but flabby looking.
 

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I agree; he's one ugly mofo... feel sorry for his parents.
 

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this was posted in the bulking section. here you 35 year old virgins with no life go.

Sex, Masturbation and Testosterone Levels Reloaded Pt. 2

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Ejaculation Frequency vs. Testosterone Level:
1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract - "The purpose of this study is to gain understanding of the relationship between ejaculation and serum testosterone level in men. The serum testosterone concentrations of 28 volunteers were investigated daily during abstinence periods after ejaculation for two phases. The authors found that the fluctuations of testosterone levels from the 2nd to 5th day of abstinence were minimal. On the 7th day of abstinence, however, a clear peak of serum testosterone appeared, reaching 145.7% of the baseline ( P < 0.01). No regular fluctuation was observed following continuous abstinence after the peak. Ejaculation is the precondition and beginning of the special periodic serum testosterone level variations, which would not occur without ejaculation. The results showed that ejaculation-caused variations were characterized by a peak on the 7th day of abstinence; and that the effective time of an ejaculation is 7 days minimum. These data are the first to document the phenomenon of the periodic change in serum testosterone level; the correlation between ejaculation and periodic change in the serum testosterone level, and the pattern and characteristics of the periodic change." also in http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ystem2.PEntrez
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2. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract - "This current study examined the effect of a 3-week period of sexual abstinence on the neuroendocrine response to masturbation-induced orgasm. Hormonal and cardiovascular parameters were examined in ten healthy adult men during sexual arousal and masturbation-induced orgasm. Blood was drawn continuously and cardiovascular parameters were constantly monitored. This procedure was conducted for each participant twice, both before and after a 3-week period of sexual abstinence. Plasma was subsequently analysed for concentrations of adrenaline, noradrenaline, cortisol, prolactin, luteinizing hormone and testosterone concentrations. Orgasm increased blood pressure, heart rate, plasma catecholamines and prolactin. These effects were observed both before and after sexual abstinence. In contrast, although plasma testosterone was unaltered by orgasm, higher testosterone concentrations were observed following the period of abstinence. These data demonstrate that acute abstinence does not change the neuroendocrine response to orgasm but does produce elevated levels of testosterone in males."
3. American population testosterone level dropped about 50 ng/dl for men at around age 64-65 between 2 groups of men born in 1920-1924 and 1930-1934, according to in http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/92/1/196. When the 1920-1924 group reached the median age 65, their mean testosterone level was 500 ng/dl; when the 1930-1934 group reached the median age 56 and 64, their mean testosterone was 529 ng/dl and 444 ng/dl, respectively. The 1930-1934 group has a testosterone drop rate at about 10.65 ng/dl per year during ages 56-64. This report also shows that the testosterone drop rate generally becomes faster for the men from 55 to 65. If we use the same annual drop rate of the 1930-1934 group, the extrapolated, averaged testosterone level of of 20 year old men born during 1930-1934 should be about 911 ng/dl. Assuming that the mean 20-year old testosterone level for both groups are the same is about 911 ng/dl, the overall-averaged testosterone drop for the 1920-1924 group is about 9.13 ng/dl/year, while the overall-averaged testosterone drop for the 1930-1934 group is about 10.61 ng/dl/year I suspect the higher masturbation/ejaculation frequency in the younger generation after the 60's sexual revolution resulted in a higher cortisol/ prolactin level (or faster ageing of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and -testicular axis) accelerates the testosterone drop, since some high-frequency over-masturbation young men experience male menopause (andropause) between ages 20-30.
4. Our observations for healthy ejaculation frequency (or refraction times) vs age, in order to maximize the testosterone level, are:
1. 4-7 times per week for teenagers of age 16-19.
2. 3-6 times per week for young men of age 20-25.
3. 3-5 times per week for young men of age 25-30.
4. 2-4 times per week for men of age 30-45,
5. 1-3 times per week for men of age 45-60,
6. 1-2 times every 10 days for men of age 60-70.
7. No more than once a week days after age 70
Lovemaking orgasms stimulate the pituitary to release oxytocin for a faster recovery; while masturbation may not help the pituitary to release enough oxytocin. Therefore, the masturbation ejaculation frequency should be limited to the low limit as possible as you can. If your ejaculation orgasm produces sexual exhaustion symptoms, your ejaculation frequency should be lower than the listed above. The actual ejaculation frequency is associated the refraction (recovery time) of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal, -thyroid and -testicular axis. The energetic time (full recovery with powering up) for a man having a morning (8 AM) testosterone level at 350-400 nd/gl is about 7 days when his testosterone level reach its peak, over 500 ng/dl. If he keeps this ejaculation frequency, he will likely maintain his testosterone level around 450-550 ng/dl, thereafter. A man with a high testosterone level of 700 ng/dl or higher can re-erect the penis in a few minutes after ejaculating if his pituitary doesn't overshoot his prolactin level, but it doesn't mean he can ejaculate again. This is because the ability of penile re-erection can be associated with the dopamine nervous action on the pituitary oxytocin and prolactin release and the stimulation of testosterone, nitric oxide, prostaglandin E1 and prostaglandin E2 stimulation on the prostate and penile erectile nerves. Prostaglandin E2 can re-erect the post-ejaculating penis again when the oxytocin level is high and the prolactin level is not overshooting out of the range. The prostaglandin E2 induced erection usually accompanies a little pains in the prostate, urethra and penis. Even if you can re-erect your penis for sex again, the post-ejaculation elevating cortisol and prolactin will start to lock up the adrenal and testicular function to drop your DHEA and testosterone production few hours after the first ejaculation.
Like psychological stress or exercise-induced stress, sex-induced stress induces excessive cortisol, prolactin and norepinephrine/epinpehrine release to lock up the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and -testicular axis during sex or few hours later after orgasm or ejaculation. The neuro-immune-endocrine responses to sex-induced stress can be delayed until cortisol starts to exert its effects on the adrenal cortex, prolactin on the pituitary-testicular axis, and norepinephrine/epinephrine and its induced prolstaglandin E2 overheat the hypothalamus, pituitary, adrenal glands, testicles (ovaries), prostate, liver, lungs, heart and pancreases (for a high glucogan release) via the alpha- and beta -andrenergic receptors. For the same reason, people with chronic stress, no matter from which sources, generally have a lower testosterone level. Over-trained athletes and soldiers and psychologically stressed-out persons are not exceptional. Testosterone and norepinephrine can positively or negatively interact each other through their receptors. Initially, testosterone induces norepinephrine release to give your arousal and heat, and then excessive norepinephrine with a high level of proactin and cortisol reduces testosterone release; on the other hand, without the inhibition effects of excessive prolactin and cortisol, norepinpehrine stimulates testosterone release via action on both alpha- and beta-andrenergic receptors in the adrenal and testicles (ovaries) when the testosterone level is too low. To avoid the inhibition effects of excessive prolactin and cortisol, you need a normal dopamine-hypothlamaus-pituitary-adrenal function. Any way, there are a lot of researches backing up the claim about the interaction among the nervous, immune and endocrine system:
Ref: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...=&_orig=search
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http://hyper.ahajournals.org/cgi/con...tract/32/5/880
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2480820
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?scri...nrm=iso&tlng=e
http://www.biolreprod.org/cgi/content/abstract/40/3/541
http://www.popline.org/docs/0198/751348.html
http://hyper.ahajournals.org/cgi/reprint/17/6/1104.pdf
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=15071810
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1337237
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/con...ll/144/11/4923

The following research suggests the inflammatory cytokine IL-1beta and its induced prostaglandin E2 can stimulate the hypothalamus to induce release of norepinephrine, dopamine, and serotonin as a feedback control.
http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi/reprint/13/8/3574

This article suggest norepinephrine control the feedback of LH secretion in the hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular axis - http://www.popline.org/docs/0188/761130.html

You will get more explanation in the following about the role of norepinephrine and epinephrine in the sexual arousal, orgasm responses, sexual exhaustion symptoms, and neuro-immune function.

Case Study - Destruction produced by Male over-ejaculation/over-masturbation or Female Over-Masturbation/excessive orgasm for no sexual orgasm. Reader:01/06/2002>
I tend to suffer from premature ejaculation. It varies how quickly it occurs but it almost always occurs before I desire it to. Until about 2 years ago, I masterbated almost daily (sometimes more than that). I am now 30 and have done so since age 12 or so. I suffer from depression although I currently take no medicine for it (I have taken medicine before). I have suffered from unknown lower back pain since I was 16. I also tend to have severe eye floaters and have been losing my hair since I was 23. I would appreciate your advice on how to overcome this problem.
Dr. Lin: 01/09/2002>
You have experienced the typical symptoms of sexual exhaustion due to over-masturbation since your puberty.
Over-masturbation or over-ejaculation over-discharges the brain's acetylcholine, dopamine, and serotonin nerves systems, resulting in brain's/nervous (pro-sympathetic, due to over-conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine and epinephrine for stress responses), liver, cardiovascular, kidney, and endocrine disorder, and then burns them out with chronically excessive norepinephrine/epinephrine/sympathetic nervous fires, the induced inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2, glutamate, histamine, 3,4-dihydroxyphenylacetaldehyde (DOPAL - please read: http://parkinsons.hopedigest.com/blo...nsons_disease), dihydroxyphenylacetic acid (DOPAC - please read http://www.ohiolink.edu/etd/send-pdf...kent1164141349 and http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...0004/art00023), 3,4-dihydroxyphenylglycolaldehyde (DOPEGAL - please read: http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/56/3/331 ) and 3,4-dihydroxyphenylglycol (DHPG - lease read: http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/cgi/reprint/56/3/331 ). Your brain/neuro-endocrine and liver systems are like an over-discharged good-old-day car battery (overcharge causes chemical/mineral deposits on the electrodes of acid batteries made before 1980 and ruin them) which won't start the engine to perform recharging for itself. Some nervous cells are burned out or damaged by the nervous excitotoxicity and inflammation byproducts listed above. As a result of the exhaustion of your pituitary-adrenal and -testicular axis, the production of your androgen hormones (DHEA, androstenedione testosterone and DHT) and pituitary oxytocin become too low to support your neuro-immune function and to suppress the inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2 release from your body - typically from your brain/head/neck, your pelvic organs, and your internal organs between your neck and pelvic cavity. The excess- orgasm or over-ejaculation induced prolactin, cortisol, norepinephrine and epinephrine, if excessive, can disable the pituitary-testicular (or -ovarian) axis for a few days or even months, leading to a long refraction time or a long-term sexual exhaustion and inflammation. Even, excessive prolactin, cortisol, noepinephrine and/or epinephrine in the bloodstream can induce excessive prostaglandin E2 release from the tissues. In fact, chronic elevation of epinephrine and prostaglandin E2 result in nervous excitotoxicity and cellular damage in the brain cells and the vagal or parasympathetic nerves in the liver, lungs, adrenal, heart, blood vessels, digestive system, pancreas, gallbladder, ovaries, uterus, cervix, testicles and prostate. Men also suffer from deficiency of the key semen chemicals such as potassium, zinc, calcium, magnesium, citric acid, androgen hormones (DHEA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT), fructose, phosphorylcholine (for the brain/memory/vision/hearing/nervous sensing systems), spermine, prostatic acid phosphatase, free amino acids (most important ones includes GABA, glycine, agmatine and 5-HTP associated with brain/liver/adrenal/testicular functions, vision, hearing, sympathetic nervous control and mood) , prostaglandins (prostaglandins E1 and E3 for the elasticity and flexibility of tissues, nerves and blood vessels) and enzymes that support the androgen hormones and neurotransmitter syntheses. Unfortunately, the sexual exhaustion symptoms and inflammatory responses are a result of a low DHEA, androstenedione testosterone, DHT and/or oxytocin with a high or excessive level of prolactin, cortisol, norepinephrine and epinephrine, although you won't see a drop of your androgen hormones in couple hours right after the orgasm-induced prolactin and cortisol release. However, you may experience the pro-inflammatory neuro-immune responses to the sex-induced stress hormones norepinephrine and epinephrine during sex arousal and orgasm/ejaculation or even several days by activating a group of proinflammatory cytokines such as IL-1{alpha}, IL-1?, IL-6, TNF-{alpha}, IFN-{alpha}, and MIP-1 and protein kinases A and C in the the immune system via the alpha- and beta-adrenergic receptors in cells. The proinflammatory cytokines, acting as the endogenous pyrogen of desire fires, can trigger excessive norepinephrine-induced prostaglandin E2 production in the adrenergic receptors everywhere, from your scalp down to your toes. And then epinephrine will induces cutaneous mechanical hyperalgesia and sensitizes the dorsal root ganglion neurons via its action at a beta -adrenergic receptor and the effects of epinephrine are enhanced by both the inflammatory protein kinases A and C second-messenger pathways for enhancement of inflammatory responses. When the elevated prolactin, cortisol, norepinephrine and epinephrine constrict your arteries to your liver, kidneys, adrenal glands and testicles (ovaries for women) after sex, your adrenal and testicular (or ovarian) function will be disabled or shut down for many hours or days - http://www.actionlove.com/#Ejaculati...terone Level
Suppression of androgen hormones production by excessive prolactin and cortisol, in conjunction with constriction of the arteries in the brain, liver, adrenal glands and testicles, will continue weakening your neuro-immune reaction for proinflammation, and prolong your recovery time and post-orgasm/post-ejaculation exhaustion and illness - http://www.actionlove.com/#Sexually%...matory Pains,
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Warning: sexual arousal, ejaculation or orgasm won't decrease your androgen hormonal level in the bloodstream immediately. If sexual arousal fires up your cortisol and prolactin to let your penis go limp (the sympathetic nervous Flight response to sexual stimulation and stress), you give up sexual activities immediately. This is because the elevation of prolactin and cortisol block your hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and -testicular axis which are supposed to fire up oxytocin, DHEA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT production for your ongoing sexual excitation and orgasm. I consider that going limp during sex is a natural protection of your hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and -testicular axis. If you force yourself to ejaculation or orgasm after your experience the erectile dysfunction during sex, you will be in trouble. This is because, once androgen hormones in the bloodstream are used up and become too low to support your brain/nerves, internal organs and joints/muscles, you will start to experience the post-orgasm/post-ejaculation sexual exhaustion symptoms. Generally, these symptoms start to show up at about 3-8 hours after ejaculation or orgasm. The symptoms can last for 3-10 days until your brain's hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and-testicular axis start to kick in. During this suffering period, you have to rely on your skin/tissue's Cutaneous Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal (CHPA) function to assist post-ejaculation or post-orgasm recovery. Due to the link of the hypothalamus-pituitary-thyroid axis, you may also experience the symptoms associated with thyroid disorders. You will also like to experience hair loss too ( http://www.actionlove.com/extra/hailoss.htm ) For the functional equivalent of human hair follicles to the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis, please read http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/reprint/04-1968fjev1 (also http://edrv.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/21/5/457). When excessive sex stressed out your HPA, it also burned out your hair follicles, in particularly, with a high DHT, inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2, cortisol, norepinephrine and epinephrine level and with a constriction of the blood vessels in your scalp when chronic prolactin, norepinephrine and epinephrine level run high. You can get more information form the home page of http://actionlove.com for more detail. Using prescribed erectile drugs, the PDE-5 inhibitors, to assist erection for sex will mess up your neuro-endocrine function for sexual exhaustion.
Please also note that the extremely exhausted adrenal function can cause an extreme low level of DHEA, endophrin and cortisol. An abnormal cortisol level or a lack of endorphin indicates the adrenal function disorder, fatigue or excessive orgasm/ejaculation induced stress. Excessive orgasm or over-ejaculation can produce a transient shooting or cortisol and epinephrine and result in a long-term effect on the adrenal function, although the cortisol output may become too low or too high few days after sexual activities, with a constant elevation of epinephrine released from the hypothalamus and the adrenal medulla. It should be aware that prostaglandin E2 is an immune suppressor, as well as an nervous excitor. Excessive prostaglandin E2 in the bloodstream causes not only inflammatory, but also weak neuro-immunity. As a result, sexual exhaustion produce multiple symptoms which become UFO for the western doctors and medical societies since the western doctors and medical societies fail to realize the root of the problems, "enjoying too much sexual pleasure." If you don't go after the root of the problems, there is no way to solve the sexual exhaustion symptoms.
 
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Hey guys, I think I've gotten off on the wrong foot here. I mean, I'm not really half the douche I've made myself out to be in this thread. It's just hard... you know? I'm a fat teenager. No really... think about that. I'm a grotesquely overweight blob of mediocrity. Do you have any idea what it's like to be me??? I get sh#t on by everyone around me on a daily basis. The sad thing is... I've grown to like it! I mean, look... I'm coming back to this thread for more. I can't stay away. Couple this with my obsessive feelings about all subjects related to penises, and you can see why I'm such a bitter twat. I tried ending it all the other day by cutting my wrists with a razor... but the Norelco wasn't f#cking charged! Nothing ever goes right! Nothing!!!

So anyway, if I promise to stop posting juvenile responses like, "OMG, his face is sooo fat," will you guys forgive me for being such a douche bag? I'm really sorry.
Apology accepted.
 

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this was also posted in the bulking section

Rubbering; glad to see you have nothing better to do but to put words in my mouth. your parents must be proud of you.


For more information or our over-10-year collection of sexual exhaustion symptoms, please go to
http://www.actionlove.com/extra/over.htm
http://www.actionlove.com/extra/over2.htm and
http://actionlove.com/extra/girloversex.htm
The sexual exhaustion symptoms include:
1. daily or orgasmic/ejaculation pains or cramps in pelvic cavity - including low back, tail bone, perineum, groins, perineum, penis (clitoris/vagina for women during penetration, intercourse, orgasm or post orgasm), testicles, low abdomen, neck/shoulders or rear brain (or whole head)- due to a lack of the relaxation and tissue-elastic hormone prostaglandin E-1 synthesized by the local tissues, an abrupt drop of the brain's neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin and GABA, or an excessive conversion of the dopamine->norepinephrine->epinephrine.
2. depression, stress , anxiety, and emotional instability (Mood Swing) - due to deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, serotonin add GABA.
3. Attention Deficiency and Absence mind (losing mind concentration and memory) - due to the deficiency of the brain's neurotransmitters serotonin and acetylcholine - memory protection failure or insufficient memory.
4. eye floaters or sun-light sensitive eyes, blurred vision or sympathetic nervous pupil dilation - due to disorders of the nervous sensing (acetylcholine nervous) and amplifier (dopamine nervous) circuits, a deficiency of the serotonin/GABA nervous modulation in retina, excessive stress hormones, or a poor retinal blood circulation or an arterial constriction due to deficiency of prostaglandin E-1 or/and Nitric oxide or sympathetic nervous action on the beta receptors, or an excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E2 release induced by deficiency of the androgen hormones or excessive stressors cortisol or epinephrine.
5. buzzing ears - the same as Item 4..
6. less or no seminal/lubrication production (vaginal dryness for women and VAGINISMUS ), weak ejaculation or ejaculation dysfunction - watery ejaculation or no ejaculation or orgasm - due to the neuro-endocrine disorder resulting from the weakening liver, adrenal, prostate and testicular (ovarian) functions. This is the destruction of seminal production mechanism for men. For women, it is due to a low estrogen and androstenedione/testosterone/prostaglandin E-1/oxytocin or/and a high progesterone level in the bloodstream.
7. weak erection or youth impotence.
8. low libido, exhaustion and fatigue due to deficiency of the brain's neurotransmitters dopamine, acetylcholine and serotonin and a lack of oxytocin.
9. prostatitis or urethitis ( the abrasion of the prostate or urethral duct; easier to have prostate/urethral/bladder infection) , urinary or bowel incontinence, pelvic pains (Interstitial Cystitis (IC) , testicular pains, penile pains, and clitoral numbness or pains as a result of excessive inflammatory prostaglandin E-2 release with a deficiency of healing hormone prostaglandin E-1 - disorders of the 3rd brain - the pelvic parasympathetic nerves S1-S5 and Co and the serotonin nervous modulators for the sympathetic T10-L2, particularly the L1 and L2 nervous branches to the bladder, urethra, prostate, bulbourethral glands, Great Vestibular glands, Urethral glands (de-generated seminal vesicles), clitoris, vagina, uterus and rectum/anus. men produces excessive pre-cum and women are vaginally over-wetted. Men or women may experience sex-/orgasm-induced stress incontinence (leakage or ejaculation of urine during sex or orgasm).
10. penile (clitoral or G-spot for women) shrinkage ( or vaginal enlargement or loosening for women) - due to atrophy of spongy tissues caused by nervous damage, deficiency of acetylcholine or/and Nitric Oxide, or excessive stress hormone in the sympathetic alpha receptors.
11. unwanted penile bending and shrinking (the clitoral/G-spot death and shrinkage)- formation of the scar tissues due to tissue and nervous abrasion .
12. premature ejaculation - damage of the prostate/urethral nerves and duct, and burning-out (drop) of the serotonin and acetylcholine level in the brain and nervous synapses.
13. premature hair loss or decoloring.
14. short breathing and irregular cardiovascular output (sympathetic) - a weakening brain's acetylcholine/serotonin and parasympathetic/vagus nervous function.
15. white or violet nails - deficiency of Zinc.
16. weak immunity - neuro-immune disorder resulting from the deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine (Yin Chi) and dopamine (Yang Chi). For example, easy to catch cool or get sick and requiring a longer time to get recovery from sickness.
17. Sleeping disorder and its associated symptoms- due to the deficiency of serotonin and melatonin, both of which are synthesized by the pineal gland with GABA and norepinephrine, or due to excessive pituitary LH and FSH hormones in an attempt to revive a weak/dying testicular/ovarian function, or due to excessive Yang-type stressor epinephrine in the cerebrospinal fluid. This causes a deficiency hGH and excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E-2 release into the bloodstream, an undercharging of the parasympathetic nervous system, and an excessive sympathetic nervous fire (Flight or Fight), resulting in back/joint/ligament pains or cramps, urinary or bowel incontinence, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), prostatitis or urethritis, as a result of no or insufficient healing (restoration) power (prostaglandin E-1) in the organs. muscles, ligaments and joints. Please note that excessive Ying-type stressor cortisol causes hGH, DHEA and testosterone deficiency and induces drowsiness over-sleeping, blurred vision, and hangover.
18. organ functional disorders in the 2nd brain (between the neck and pelvis) due to the weakening of the vagus (parasympathetic) nerves and the weakening serotonin nervous modulation on the sympathetic nervous functions - the most typical ones are: digestive , cardiovascular and liver systems; some experience the gallbladder and pancreas functional disorders too. The most visual or sensible disorder is stomach pain or digestive panic.
19. Excessive Sweating - the sympathetic/epinephrine nervous fires burning the entire body due to an constantly excessive dopamine/norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion in the hypothalamus and adrenal medulla.
20. Headaches or migraines - due to excessive inflammatory hormone prostaglandin E-2 release and excessive dopamine/norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion in the brain after the acetylcholine, serotonin and GABA nervous system were exhausted by excessive sex.
21. Fatigue, tiredness and exhaustion - the parasympathetic nervous recharging/healing system is out of order; the pituitary releases excessive prolactin to shut down the testicular function.
22. Muscle weakness - due to deficiency of DHEA, testosterone or DHT. This results from exhaustion of the hypothalamus-pituitary-adrenal and/or testicular axis.
23. Muscle Tremors/Twitching (pre-Parkinson's symptoms) - due to deficiency of dopamine and acetylcholine.
24. Weak neuro-immune function and persistent inflammation - easy to get infection or catch flu or cold, sinus, allergy, or/and sore throat.
 
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And he just can't get enough. In fact, I think he's JO to the abuse. :lmao:
 

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roids you really need a new pic. you seriously look like a big tool; literally.


i dont need to jerk off, i have sex... only lonely men need to justify the need to JO..

divorces = bad sex life.
looks like you sucked in bed, reason why your wife left you.

im sure roids1 hasnt gotten ass in years. if ever.im hoping roids1 doesnt have any children, would be a real shame to pass on that giant tool bag look.

roids1 are you a teacher of how to give head?

I took some cialis a few days ago, so I was rock hard and drilling deep.
in your boyfriends butthole maybe..
haha you impotent old man; need drugs to get it up. how sad.. im sure your ulgy partner doesnt help matters though. poor guy

Location: Changchun, P.R.China; good please stay there.
 
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LOL Jake LOL

Alright alright.. Enough of this fukking turd talkin smack. My face is terrible? I'm fairly fat? Nerdy? You're better looking than me?

Well before I dare say anything, I'll be expecting some proof of what you actually look like. So post up some pics.

Don't worry, chances are I won't be aroused by your appearance. Now your mom on the other hand maybe. I don't think Jake's ex wife would fukk you either, and she's pretty easy from what I've heard.
 
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i dont need to jerk off, i have sex... only lonely men need to justify the need to JO..

divorces = bad sex life.
looks like you sucked in bed, reason why your wife left you.

im sure roids1 hasnt gotten ass in years. if ever.im hoping roids1 doesnt have any children, would be a real shame to pass on that giant tool bag look.

roids1 are you a teacher of how to give head?

in your boyfriends butthole maybe..
haha you impotent old man; need drugs to get it up. how sad.. im sure your ulgy partner doesnt help matters though. poor guy
^^^The obsessions continue.


Look, I realize you thought that post was clever... and I'm sure it was to your all of your pre-teen friends whom you seduce with cigarettes... but it was horrendously tired and unoriginal. You could at least humor us with your douchebaggery.

Basically, you're terribly uneducated. (That means dumb.)

Oh, and one more question for you...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKa68kWkP48"]YouTube- What would You Say You Do Here?[/ame]
 
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I just noticed that Engival apparently visited my AMspace page today for for a quick JO. Obviously he digs that giant tool bag look. :flowers1:
 
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I am really starting to believe supmax and engival are gay lovers. They agree on everything, they both have zero friends here. And are both found to be incredibly uneducated.

engival i have a question for you... Do you at least have the common courtesy to give your boyfriend (supmax) a reach around while he wax's your rear end?
 

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Only if you get rid of your fat face profile picture.

ey both have zero friends here.
only you need cyber friends.

I win this debate hands down.It's ok fat head you lose.

At lease im not making stuff up like you are... you are indeed fat. thats a fact.
and roids really does look like a total douche. Engival and I are stating facts your making up stuff.What's even funnier is you probably work so hard yet you still are fat and pathetic looking; even have your own gym; what a complete waste of money.

^^^The obsessions continue.
It's an obvious obsession for you as well; if it weren't you would of stopped posting here awhile ago but you continue to respond.

Now let's wait to see what these guys have to reply now...Of course they always need the last word. Right on, it boosts there ego.
Let's see who the first loser will be to reply; who's first? Rubber? Roids? Bestgym? Who needs a big ego boost today. My guess is bestgym, he's the weakest link.
 
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I don't need any kind of last word. I'm above all that.

I did ask for your picture so we all could compare my fat body/face to your very perfect physique. So i'm not gonna run my mouth anymore until you post up some pictures.

So far we all find what you say worthless because we have pictures up and you don't. It makes everyone think you are too scared to do so. But i'm sure you'll come up with something very witty to say so you won't have to... Right?

And I'd be willing to bet my life that i could fukking own your a$$ anyday of the week. But not if you have something to say about it right?

engival = a mouthy bich = no pics posted = engival = etc. etc.
 
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Let's see who the first loser will be to reply; who's first? Rubber? Roids? Bestgym? Who needs a big ego boost today. My guess is bestgym, he's the weakest link.
dammit! why do I always get left out? It's because of my Not Big status, isn't it?

Even Richard Simmons feltch buddies like supmax and engival ignore me. I'm just going to have to take the plunge and buy some neovar to get jacked.

 
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I have a Fat face and i'm overweight and ugly and no women sleep with me ever and i'm a virgin. Maybe I should stop jerking off all together so I can get jacked like Supmax and his boyfriend engival
 
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Supermax and his bf are ***s and they jerk each other off. Yet, they claim that it is unhealthy. What hypocrites!

There, let's see if it comes back to life now!
 
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Peenis? If Roids is gonna start jerking off then i'm getting the pop-corn ready
 

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JO will do more harm then good
To bring this thread back on topic, there is one case example where this CAN be true, but it's more 'JO can do harm'. Not anything to do with the act nor the frequency, but these can compound the effect.

Given that JO can have a stigma associated with it, many guys will end up doing it quickly, coupled with the fear of getting caught. Doing it quickly can condition your body and/or mind to cum quickly.

Also given how it can have a fear involved, this fear can become anchored to sexual stimulation, thus one can trigger the other.

Of course if you frequently JO like this, then of course you will compound the conditioning. Here's a link regarding conditioning...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning#Pavlov.27s_experiment

Sexual activity is just as much about the body functioning as it is a state of mind... associating fear to it is gonna f**k you up in bed, period.

Guys who own fleshlight and the like might not have the problem because most people won't bother with getting something like that they're just gonna knock it out in under a minute haha. Also they're probably more open about JO and thus don't have the fear associated.

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my right hand is the one that complains. It took out a restraining order when I repeated threw it on the bed and raped it. My penis can no longer come within a 20m radius, which is an issue as my arms are not that long. If you were wondering why Im always LHJO thats the reason.
 

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I agree Wanking it will teach someone to do it faster therefore causing Premature Ejaculation. I think wanking it is probably not the best thing for someone just my opinion. Sex creates more oxytocin to be released and this doesn't happen during masturbating.
 
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To bring this thread back on topic...
What? What about all the hard work that was put in to derail it?

my right hand is the one that complains. It took out a restraining order when I repeated threw it on the bed and raped it. My penis can no longer come within a 20m radius, which is an issue as my arms are not that long. If you were wondering why Im always LHJO thats the reason.
I knew there was an interesting back-story. And here's something that will make you furious with envy: My cousin was born with two LHs.

Sex doesn't happen during masturbating.
Tell that to my LH. That's crazy talk.
 

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Also four times more prolactin is released after you have intercourse
than when you masturbate!
You search do find out its a fact.

Can you explain the relationship between LH and oxytocin?
Oxytocin is a love or bounding hormone its released during any type of ejaculation, but even more is released and sustained in free form while having relations with a female.

But to suggest that Jerking off will to more harm than good. Is true and not true. It's not true if done in moderation like what most people will do. It's true if someone abuses Jerking Off and does it all day long. It's called a sex addiction. It's common sense.
Plus I think jerking off is a waste of my time Sex is where it's at, Why would anyone waste there time ejaculating looking down at there hands when they could be looking at a beautiful vagina spread open.

I bet TheMATRIX would agree on the fact that masturbating is not good for someone.
 
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You search do find out its a fact.

Is true and not true.

It's true if someone abuses Jerking Off and does it all day long. It's called a sex addiction. It's common sense.
Here, I isolated the parts of your post that seem devoid of this common sense you speak of.
 

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And I have nothing to isolate of what you post. Congrats!
If someone forces themselves to masturbate all day long because there addicted to it. It's true that will be a problem.
Hopefully thematrix chimes in.
 

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need4speed dont agrue with them its like arguing with a bunch of chimps. You can't win.

Yes thematrix would agree on everything were saying he's the only one that has an IQ around here. Thematrix told me a lot of times sex is much better than masturbating and masturbating to porn is the most harmful. guys a genius.
 
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And I have nothing to isolate of what you post. Congrats!
If someone forces themselves to masturbate all day long because there addicted to it. It's true that will be a problem.
Hopefully thematrix chimes in.
Sincere question: Is English your second language?
 

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yes im from berlin.

need4speed dont agrue with them its like arguing with a bunch of chimps. You can't win.

Yes thematrix would agree on everything were saying he's the only one that has an IQ around here. Thematrix told me a lot of times sex is much better than masturbating and masturbating to porn is the most harmful. guys a genius.
agreed. Thematrix is the man.
and i agree with the fact there chimps.

I never heard anyone (real men at least) defend masturbating as much as these guys here.
 

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