I'm really curious about your havoc/prop cycle. Are you logging that? If not, could you just do a quick recap on how it's going? We don't have much info on propadrol around here and the stack with Havoc is interesting to me. Are you pulsing it, or straight?
Thanks.
This is copy and pasted from a reply on another topic
Actually I do not, the only thing I do have are some minor notes through out the use of this stack. I was busy doing some make up essay for some classes of mine.
Either way, currently I am up 8lbs within 2.5 weeks. Was training in college gym and local park in between classes. No joke on the strength gain on Epi/Havoc. I had an injury that prevented me from working out for a good time, my strength dipped a good amount but since starting this stack, my strength was about the same prior the injury.
Fat loss seems more apparent than muscle gained for me at least.
The only set back for me is the back pumps when I tried to push Havoc from 30 to 40/50/60.
Propadrol: 60/60/60/60
Havoc: 20/30*/30/30
* = Tried pushing toward 60 but was a no go for me
Final thought in mid cycle: both prop and havoc are very clean, strength is very very good, no libido problem (its up btw, real up). Sides: beside the back bumps, none. Didn't get calf pumps that are reported by some users. Oily skin, sometime, then again it could be due to the humidity.
If anyone would like to know anymore, please pm away.
Take care =]