Trust but verify.
2mgs it is then. I get alot of Zinc a day, not just from supplement ZMA but from food as well - I am in love with seafood of all kinds. Clams, shellfish, oysters, crabs, sushi, you name it I eat it, and these are loaded with Zinc(as well as an abundance of other good things for you as well) :woohoo:
Plymouth--I am on 10g Testim a day and have been for months. If I took ZMA would it help any, would it help increase T a little? Also I got on the Carlsons web site and could not find it. Is it called something else through them?
Bodybuilding.com - ZMA Information and Product Listing! ZMA FAQ!
Yep ad if you are taking only that for magensium your getting about 100 mgs if that of elemental magensium.
Best place to pick up ZMA is over at t-nation. Its only 9 bucks for 90 caps, I pop 2 a day so thats 9 bucks for a 45 day supply.
This is all very true. Zinc and magnesium are the hormone regulators of the vitamin/mineral world. By just taking them your steroid hormones will go up.
i take chealted and let it dissolve on my tongueWord to the wise - Do not take a copper supplement on an empty stomach first thing in the AM. I hurled from it yesterday, couldn't figure out why, and hurled again today.
I have been feeling drained lately, dunno why.
Thats best idea I have heard of your mouth yet :woohoo:Nagging joint pain, poor workout recovery, brain fog and energy level still not where I want it. This may also be IGF-1 related as well. Im turning my keys over to Dr John soon and letting him dictate where I go next.
Its a dual pleasure trip, as I will be staying with some friends at good ol' MSU in Lansing :chick:
I've been reading about this stuff. Let me get this straight, I take it at night. Even though I am on Testim and my testies probably do not produce T anymore this stuff will increase my steroid T, plus help me sleep at night, help me recover from workouts, and help me gain strenght and enudrance.:bb2: All for $10 buck from T-Nation. OK---I'm sold. I'll order some this week. The guy at GNC told me lots of people stack it with a plain Zinc supplement.
Before you do that, would you like to know your present Zinc and Copper blood levels?
Yep, all true. And its only 9 bucks.
I assume you mean 5 months on, two off, right? When you were on Vitex how did you cycle that. It says for long term use but I remember you saying you cycled it.
I take Carlsons fish oil in conjuction with Biotest Flameout for a few reasons.
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I mix adound and try and cycle everything, right now Im doing everything 5 on 2 off.
LEF recomends Cimetidine, Tagament, IIRC tripple dose for flu or heavy cold.
Thanks. I know what you mean about finding good companies. There are so many out there it is hard to find one that is trustworthy. I will check out BioTest. I got my Vitex from GNC. I've never had a problem with them before. I am also checking out Swansons Supplements. If you go to epinions.com there is almost 9000 reviews on Swansons and they rate 4.5 out of 5 stars. So I may try them. Thanks for all the info. If I go with the ZMA I am going to have to cut out the Zinc I am taking now. I take 30mg every morning, but the ZMA has 30mg already and this would put me over 50mg a day meaning I would have to take a copper supp. If I keep it under 50 I should be able to avoid copper. I get a yearly physical in a couple of months and I am going to request a whole slew of blood work to make sure nothing is to elevated.
Vitex works as a Luteinizing-hormone secretagogue (LHS). In other words, it causes the release of Luteinizing hormone, which in turn signals the testes to produce more Testosterone, but it also acts as an anti-progesterone and anti-prolactin agent, lowering progesterone and prolactin. Progesterone and prolactin are particularly nasty hormones, in that they cause — much more than estrogen — storage of body fat and mental depression. Prolactin can even cause lactation in men. And, by lowering progesterone and prolactin — just like lowering estrogen — you'll increase Testosterone through various feedback mechanisms.
Are you saying this could be a substitute for hcg and that it would work even when "suppressed" by exogenous testosterone?
Vitex alone wouldn't be strong enough to be a substitute for hCG. However, the Alpha Male formulation, I suspect, could potentially be every bit as powerfull as hCG. Most users report a 200 point increase in TT and a 5 - 10 point increase in FT. Alpha Male alone was used by thousands as post cycle therapy when Biotest was releasing there as strong as steroid prohormones.
T-Nation Res-V 72 pills/bottle, $34.99, 0.49c/pill
JansZ, you have forgotten your reading glasses
I picked up on that one but assuming money was not an issue would you recommend the dosage that Biotest has on the bottle of a higher one?? This is in referance to all of their products but especially Alpha Male
Sorry for not posting link to the product I was refering to, (and it is not grapeseed extract).JansZ, you have forgotten your reading glasses
The Lef brand does not have 100mg of resveratrol, it has 100mg of propriety blend and only 20mg of resveratrol. Grapeseed Extract With Resveratrol, 100 Mg, 60 Capsules
So, its
60 pills, at 20mg a pill, 24 bucks for bottle. So its 1200mg per bottle at 24 bucks.
Biotest, 100mg per pill, 72 pills. So its 7200mg for 35 bucks.
Biotest is much, much cheaper. When you gonna finally jump on the bandwagon :hammer:
Hey, i love LEF too, they have alot of other stuff I buy.
Gotcha . Not a bad deal IF your a LEF member, and buy 4 bottles. 6000mg of Resveratrol for 24 bucks. Good stuff, thanks for the link. The other link you posted is wack.
Without a doubt, if you can swing it, take the full dose. :bruce2:
Reveratol is good for..................
Resveratrol, right now, is in the spotlight. It is one of the most talked about and researched plant based compounds in the world.
Let me be more clear, we had a miscommunication. I would take the full dose 7 days a week. I am asking if you would recommend a HIGHER DOSAGE than the one indicated by Biotest on the bottle????
The best way is 4 tablets a day, 5 days a week. One dose at first meal, one dose 6-8 hours later at 2nd or 3rd meal.
The best way is 4 tablets a day, 5 days a week. One dose at first meal, one dose 6-8 hours later at 2nd or 3rd meal.
You want to take it with food as this will increase absorbtion.
You also want to take it 5 days/2off because that tricks the body. The brain will sense a rise in LH and react accordingly(it will adjust). By following a 5 on 2 off pattern you will prevent the brain from adjusting to increases in LH.
And I would like to add, those numbers you posted above are in ONE capsule, not two
Two tablets are 750mg of Trib, 40mg of foreskolin and 340mg of Eurycoma and Vitex(yes, the same vitex I have been talking about all over this forum). It is one beast of a supplement.
You bet.
I don't think I can use the pm feature till I have 50 posts, so I better get to posting :woohoo:You bet.
Fix your PM so i can message you there is another product that is a transdermal that I have had my eyes on for a little while now, and I think it is even better. I'll give everyone a hint, it starts with a D. :jaw:
Shoot, I am jumpy at the excitement of stacking those two together
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Definitely a good question:think:
Calcium D Glucarate is one of my "Staple" supplements that I take everyday, like fish oil. Its an important one and one of the most important, IMO. Calcium D is a very, very potent anti cancer supplement.
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