Please help me in regards to TRT

[sammpedd88]

So I'll probably receive the formeron today or Monday, should I hold off on using it then because I'm taking Arim?

Yes I would. It could crash your E2

 

[kisaj]

Yes. Form is powerful on it's own and you shouldn't be combining two AIs like that.

 

[kenpoengineer]

Yes. Form is powerful on it's own and you shouldn't be combining two AIs like that.

No expert here, shouldn't OP drop the arimidex and start using Formeron instead?

 

[rio2014]

Ok so at this point its pretty apparent that .5mg was a huge mistake, I am aching all over, fatigued, 0 libido, for the first time ever can't get it up or almost limp, so whats my best course of action then, reduce the dose by half and continue taking it twice a week or should I wait until its out of my system and start over with a smaller dose?

 

[Yolked]

Yeah you have the classic signs of high E2. Start out with .25 mgs every third day and see how yiu do with that for a few weeks. Don't forget the pill cutter. It makes it so much easier to cut those small pills in quarters.

Yeah this is classic elevated e2.. that's what's wrong with women... lol. I was having issues with same thing as well as swollen nips. Letro would crush levels and joints would start hurting bad. What I discovered was topical Chrysin... yeah it's not easily absorbed orally but awesome topically... I actually mixed some capsules with emu oil and apply about 100mg equivalent daily. Using same test doses I'm feeling awesome. Libido is killer. Joints feel great and nipples are good 2go...

 

[Yolked]

Here it is. If I'm not mistaken, this was originally posted by pmgamer. I copied it for you:

I have seen men on TRT stop it and do just Arimidex and get good levels not many but it happens. Here is a link about this in older men still I see this happen to younger men.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/.../full/89/3/1174
And this one.
http://www.medibolics.com/...estosterone.htm

As for taking Arimidex you need labs I like Quest labs test for Estradiol #4021 the range is 13 to 54 pg/ml best level is 20 pg/ml for most men. Here is a copy of a file I made about not going to low on Arimidex.
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How To Take Arimdex and not go down on your Estradiol to Low.

What I found is if you go to low taking arimidex, it's the length of time your to low, if your too low say for 8 weeks it can take your body a longer time to make more Estradiol. Bottom line is to know how not to go to low. Keep a log on your dose and how you feel men going to low can't get it up taking Viagra. I went to low when I first tried Arimidex and did not know about going to low or how one feels to low, so I was low a good 8 weeks. I did not know I was low until my next labs.

The best gage I have found to control your Estradiol levels is to gage your night time and morning wood. At good levels or what I call the sweet spot you get your night time and morning wood back so strong it will wake you up and you can hang a coat on it.

Most men do good taking .25 mgs or 1/4 of a 1mg. pill, I use a pill cutter to cut the small pill in half then I stand it on the cut end and use a single edge razor to cut this in half. A good way to take arimidex is by how high your levels are. I tested over 90 pg/ml so we tried doing .5 mgs every other day after 8 weeks my next set of labs showed it did not move below 90, test said >90. So we did .5 mgs. every day in about 2 weeks I got some strong night time and morning wood back after not having them for many yrs.

I kept doing this dose and in 8 weeks my next set of labs said <20 back in the day labs were like this they did not have to good labs we have today they could not read lower the 20. My Dr. told me this looks to low to stop taking the Arimidex. The one thing I noticed was my wood stopped and stopping the Arimidex my wood came back in about 7 weeks my next test at 8 weeks was 24 pg/ml. So we went back on the Arimidex but the Dr. told me to take .5 mgs every 3 days I was on this dose not a week and lost wood. This is when I figured out going to low you lose wood. And the longer your too low the longer it takes to get levels back up.

I stopped the arimidex right away and got my wood back in 4 days. I then after playing with the dose for a time found the best dose is .25mgs every 2 to 3 days.

So lets say your labs are less the 50 pg/ml if your take .5 mgs you can go down so dam fast your miss the sweet spot of your wood and go to low. It's best with lower levels 50 and under to do less Arimidex .25mgs every 2 days if later your lose wood when it comes back go to every 3 days.

I have found estradiol is the hardest hormone to control, it goes up or down from month to month some times I need .25mgs every 2 days other times I need .25mgs everyday most of the time I do well on every 3 days.

So between wood and labs I do great and so do most of the men I have told this to. I keep a log on how much I am taking and how I feel. Doing this and reading back in my log I was able to tell when I was going to high or to low my Dr. lets me dose my arimidex by how I feel.

Over the yrs. I have posted this story until I am blue in the face.

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Phil

Yeah I've heard it before but it's money.. guys need to hear this

 

[rio2014]

I have read that Preg turn into progesterone, is taking 50 too much because my libido is almost gone. Also does Preg by any chance lower DHT? Because recently the rate that I was losing my hair due to TRT has been reduced significantly and lose almost very few hairs a day and I don't know is contributing to it. I was hypoT so maybe the synthroid has some effect on it but regardless its wonderful.

 

[rio2014]

I have read that Preg turn into progesterone, is taking 50 too much because my libido is almost gone. Also does Preg by any chance lower DHT? Because recently the rate that I was losing my hair due to TRT has been reduced significantly and lose almost very few hairs a day and I don't know is contributing to it. I was hypoT so maybe the synthroid has some effect on it but regardless its wonderful.

Also I have been trying to take preg every other day now.

 

[kisaj]

50 mg is too much for an extended period of time, IMO. You want to build up (backfill) and then lower. Preg sits atop the hormone chain and affects everything. I would lower to 25mg eod and assess.

 

[rio2014]

50 mg is too much for an extended period of time, IMO. You want to build up (backfill) and then lower. Preg sits atop the hormone chain and affects everything. I would lower to 25mg eod and assess.

Thanks, what about 10mg every day because I'm not sure what its half life is? Is there a particular brand that's good or are they all the same?

 

[Yolked]

I believe Adex is better taken with fats. I will look this up and report back.

Soy lecithin.... Google that

 

[FireRescue]

Soy lecithin.... Google that

I'm not sure what you are getting at? Are you saying Adex is better taken with lecithin?

 

[Yolked]

I'm not sure what you are getting at? Are you saying Adex is better taken with lecithin?

If it better taken with fats then soy lecithin is what you really want to take it with

 

[rio2014]

Anyone know the shelf life of preg? I just ordered a bottle from ebay because its banned in Canada and it has a manufacture date of 12/12..is this safe to take?

 

[kisaj]

Hmm, that is almost 2 years expired. Probably fine, but I'd be pissed at the seller.

Also, if you can order from ebay, why couldn't you order from a reputable company?

 

[rio2014]

Thanks I bought of them because they were selling other supplements and had a shipping discount but I was able to reach the company that manufactured the preg (they have a chat on their site) and the operator said its should be good for at least 2 years. They test it for two years but its probably good for longer than that is what I was told.

 

[kisaj]

As per my discussion with my Dr yesterday I agree with this statement. Thanks for posting this. It allowed me to be informed and ask intelligent questions when visiting my Dr.

Great stuff, glad to help.