Pink Magic or Free Test?

[Vitruvian]

Stalker

I have funded tier 1 university studies to prove I am not a stalker. They will be posted in the extremely distant future.

Take care.

 

[Outside Backer]

lmfao at Jacob giving advice on acting with respect and professionalism

I have now seen everything.

 

[Guest]

I pay attention to dozens of companies. No need to be flattered; or tickled as you put it.


Oh come now.... the 3,7 is in Erase as well.

You love me secretly.

I see rave reviews about Erase on AM and it surpassed jack3d at NP. I love to see a young company thrive.

Natty seems to have the respect of the board....

 

[Outside Backer]

If you had read my posts more carefully you would see that I am not anti-FreeTest I am simply Pro-PM when they are compared; especially on size and strength benefits. Most of the feedback from users I have read on FreeTest gave it low scores or average for strength gains run 25 days. If you look at Feedback for PM run 25 days it's 10's across the board for strength/recomp in majority of users.

Go ahead, ask me to provide evidence. I could sit here all night posting detailed comparisons in relation to strength gains and PM would win 90% of the time. And the OP asked which would be more suited for him regarding strength so that was my reason for saying "definitely pink magic" in my first post.

so your basically like every other clown

your going by the logs bro LOL

you yourself have not used them you can make recomendations on **** you have never taken

solid, i'd love for someone who has never done said product to tell me how awesome it is cuz he read it on a forum bro

you're what makes message boards so much fun

I have never tried XXX but I am going to tell you Bro it is awesome, I mean check the Logs. I can tell you guys love XXX you need it bro

check the logs bro

:bling::ugh2::18:

You = winner

HMB looks awesome on paper, you should stack that with it

 

[Vitruvian]

You love me secretly.

I see rave reviews about Erase on AM and it surpassed jack3d at NP. I love to see a young company thrive.

Natty seems to have the respect of the board....

Congrats to natty on Erase's success.

 

[Vitruvian]

You love me secretly.

I see rave reviews about Erase on AM and it surpassed jack3d at NP. I love to see a young company thrive.

Natty seems to have the respect of the board....

And yes, I do love you as a brother.

 

[Guest]

so your basically like every other clown

your going by the logs bro LOL

you yourself have not used them you can make recomendations on **** you have never taken

solid, i'd love for someone who has never done said product to tell me how awesome it is cuz he read it on a forum bro

you're what makes message boards so much fun

I have never tried XXX but I am going to tell you Bro it is awesome, I mean check the Logs. I can tell you guys love XXX you need it bro

check the logs bro

:bling::ugh2::18:

You = winner

HMB looks awesome on paper, you should stack that with it

O my...

So much of our business comes from what people read on the internet.....

you can lead the horse to water....

 

[southpaw23]

I thought about purchasing products from a certain company in this thread, but since the guy who looks like he ate the entire cast of the Jersey Shore, decided he was going to insult someone who weighed 165lbs, and uses the word "bro" as an adjective, I think I'll spend my money elsewhere. You guys have fun I'm going to take my 160 pound frame and go get lit up with Jack3d.

 

[BrYmAsTeR17]

so your basically like every other clown

your going by the logs bro LOL

you yourself have not used them you can make recomendations on **** you have never taken

solid, i'd love for someone who has never done said product to tell me how awesome it is cuz he read it on a forum bro

you're what makes message boards so much fun

I have never tried XXX but I am going to tell you Bro it is awesome, I mean check the Logs. I can tell you guys love XXX you need it bro

check the logs bro

:bling::ugh2::18:

You = winner

HMB looks awesome on paper, you should stack that with it

You are correct; I, myself, have never taken it. But I have witnessed a training partner and good friend run it for 6 weeks and I watched his weights go up consistently for three weeks.

But nevermind that; I'm loving your view as well. So basically your saying any and all logs are b.s. and should not be cited when trying to look for a strong product? That's saying all of these logs aren't trustworthy and we shouldn't put any stock into the feedback we get from them. SO WHY DO WE HAVE LOGS THEN?! What do you just try anything out of the blue?

Most of you reps on here rave about your product WHEN 99% OF YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT ONCE!!

 

[southpaw23]

You are correct; I, myself, have never taken it. But I have witnessed a training partner and good friend run it for 6 weeks and I watched his weights go up consistently for three weeks.

But nevermind that; I'm loving your view as well. So basically your saying any and all logs are b.s. and should not be cited when trying to look for a strong product? That's saying all of these logs aren't trustworthy and we shouldn't put any stock into the feedback we get from them. SO WHY DO WE HAVE LOGS THEN?! What do you just try anything out of the blue?

Most of you reps on here rave about your product WHEN 99% OF YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT ONCE!!

Don't go back and forth with this guy...consider the source.

 

[BrYmAsTeR17]

you can lead the horse to water....

..but you can't make it drink.

 

[TexasLifter89]

Most of you reps on here rave about your product WHEN 99% OF YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT ONCE!!

I'm not getting involved in this threads pettiness, but I will say I can assure we have used our products at least 1 time before they come to the public. So who are these 99% you speak of from our company?

 

[Rosie Chee]

But nevermind that; I'm loving your view as well. So basically your saying any and all logs are b.s. and should not be cited when trying to look for a strong product? That's saying all of these logs aren't trustworthy and we shouldn't put any stock into the feedback we get from them. SO WHY DO WE HAVE LOGS THEN?! What do you just try anything out of the blue?

Most of you reps on here rave about your product WHEN 99% OF YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED IT ONCE!!

No, not all logs are bullsh*t. There are some very honest and reputable loggers here who know their sh*t and will say it like it is, period - hence why they are often the ones companies will approach to log new products, because their feedback is unbiased and accurate to their experience with it.

In saying that, not all loggers are credible - you only have to look at some of the ones that are run. But you should have common sense to tell who is kissing arse and who is telling the truth.

I will reiterate Austin's question, since you directed this highly inaccurate accusation at Joe. The reps at Applied Nutriceuticals use ALL of the products at least once - the same as reps for other companies generally use all of their products at least once (withing reason - being a female, I have never and will never use hormonal products from any company I am affiliated with).

On that note, you will soon figure out who the reputable reps are, and who to believe etc. Not all company reps push their products and if you bothered to look around here you'll find that many actually recommend products aside from their own.

Again, make sure you have facts before you go spouting off at people - this forum does not need to turn into a schoolyard.

~Rosie~
The Primordial Woman

 

[Guest]

I thought about purchasing products from a certain company in this thread, but since the guy who looks like he ate the entire cast of the Jersey Shore, decided he was going to insult someone who weighed 165lbs, and uses the word "bro" as an adjective, I think I'll spend my money elsewhere. You guys have fun I'm going to take my 160 pound frame and go get lit up with Jack3d.

I'll take the 160lbers, 130lbers, the 300lber over weight guy and any one that wants to improve..

They can keep all the stud football players, sprinters, and Cutlers..

 

[southpaw23]

I'll take the 160lbers, 130lbers, the 300lber over weight guy and any one that wants to improve..

They can keep all the stud football players, sprinters, and Cutlers..

I agree but I actually consider myself a stud. The only women who are attracted to the bodybuilder types actually look like Jay Cutler themselves; albeit with much longer hair. I kid of course.

My main issue is with these "reps" taking this guy to task, for merely expressing an opinion. Whether you deem it to be informed or uninformed is irrelevant, as it is simply an OPINION. And then speaking down to him in a manner that is condescending, and then going even further by launching a personal attack on his weight, when the guy criticizing him clearly looks like a poor man's "Situation" from the Jersey Shore. Personally I could care less about which product is better, as I'm currently running Triazole and loving it.

 

[antknee]

i never got anything out of pink magic- either solo or with dermacrine..prime, however, was the bomb- loved it..sorry, had to add that since i cant comment on Free Test..

 

[gymrat827]

PM is not worth the price. I liked it but it was real weak, mainly a lidibo boost.

 

[noot]

I have no experience in either but from the looks of it is seems like Free Test would be a better choice, apparently Pink Magic right from the start promised availability issues,

"Due to it's critical harvest peaks, cultivation and availability of Pink Magic are extremely limited."

So, I guess if you want something that you can run for an extended period of time then probably it is best to choice a product that is constantly in circulation.

If it adds anything, even Free Test's NutraPlanet page seems a bit more detailed and backed up with sources and such, http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/applied-nutriceuticals/free-test-100-caps.html compared to Pink Magic, which has the standard "buy me write up"

There is not really that much difference in the doses, PM has 6 capsules, while Free Test has 4, so you will be running out of them at the same rate.

I don't know though, with USPLab products usually you have only one guy pushing their stuff, so there is a ton more potential for obvious bias. While with the other products, Free Test for example, you have have at least a couple of people weighing in, even if they are still somewhat related to the company.

Basically, with USPLabs you have...basically just the owner providing their input...

And with AN, you have a bunch of reps and what not. Basically, a bunch of people that are not in direct profit of the products they are trying to push the product on us.

Just saying, that when USPLabs comments about his products, that's the main guy trying to push his product on you. That's like the head of Pfizer, literally the main guy, trying to tell you have Viagra, his company's product, is so great.

 

[southpaw23]

I have no experience in either but from the looks of it is seems like Free Test would be a better choice, apparently Pink Magic right from the start promised availability issues,

"Due to it's critical harvest peaks, cultivation and availability of Pink Magic are extremely limited."

So, I guess if you want something that you can run for an extended period of time then probably it is best to choice a product that is constantly in circulation.

If it adds anything, even Free Test's NutraPlanet page seems a bit more detailed and backed up with sources and such, http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/applied-nutriceuticals/free-test-100-caps.html compared to Pink Magic, which has the standard "buy me write up"

There is not really that much difference in the doses, PM has 6 capsules, while Free Test has 4, so you will be running out of them at the same rate.

I don't know though, with USPLab products usually you have only one guy pushing their stuff, so there is a ton more potential for obvious bias. While with the other products, Free Test for example, you have have at least a couple of people weighing in, even if they are still somewhat related to the company.

Basically, with USPLabs you have...basically just the owner providing their input...

And with AN, you have a bunch of reps and what not. Basically, a bunch of people that are not in direct profit of the products they are trying to push the product on us.

Just saying, that when USPLabs comments about his products, that's the main guy trying to push his product on you. That's like the head of Pfizer, literally the main guy, trying to tell you have Viagra, his company's product, is so great.

While that may be the case, reps are paid with "product". So they too have vested interests. Pink Magic did nothing for me, but they have other products that I considered to be of benefit. Reps don't rep for free, they are given product.

 

[JohnRock]

I ran two months of Pink Magic along with the entire Asteroid stack and didn't notice any gains out of ordinary. That said, I do like P-Slin and to a lesser extent, Anabolic Pump. Jack3d is also a decent pre-workout. I respect that it's bare bones with no added junk. It's not my favorite pre-workout, but it does the job and it's very well priced for what it does.

I *know* USP says the tribulus they use is different than the tribulus that has been basically proven to not do anything out of the ordinary, but I haven't seen any science explaining the difference yet. I think USPLabs has a very smart business plan of acting like the underdog and getting lots of inexperienced people hyping their stuff. Who doesn't love the underdog? But eventually, the hype will die down and people will want to see the science. I know I do.

 

[GoHardOrGoHme]

wow this thread got intense quick.....hope it helps the OP make a decision...

 

[BrYmAsTeR17]

No, not all logs are bullsh*t. There are some very honest and reputable loggers here who know their sh*t and will say it like it is, period - hence why they are often the ones companies will approach to log new products, because their feedback is unbiased and accurate to their experience with it.

In saying that, not all loggers are credible - you only have to look at some of the ones that are run. But you should have common sense to tell who is kissing arse and who is telling the truth.

I know this. I was merely telling "Joe" that's what he made it sound like.

The reps at Applied Nutriceuticals use ALL of the products at least once - the same as reps for other companies generally use all of their products at least once.

Not always but I see your point. The 99% was just pulled out of nowhere. Excuse that.

On that note, you will soon figure out who the reputable reps are, and who to believe etc. Not all company reps push their products and if you bothered to look around here you'll find that many actually recommend products aside from their own.

Trust me I already know which reps to trust. I have my own list. (well not literally)

Again, make sure you have facts before you go spouting off at people - this forum does not need to turn into a schoolyard.

I was done with this thread up until Outside negged me and insulted me.

 

[TexasLifter89]

While that may be the case, reps are paid with "product". So they too have vested interests. Pink Magic did nothing for me, but they have other products that I considered to be of benefit. Reps don't rep for free, they are given product.

This is not always the case. I haven't been "paid with product" in over 9 months. Granted this is by my choice because I fully support the line regardless of if I receive items or not from them.

I like Prime from USP, I've recommended it to friends, and logged my results on here. I've used it multiple times as well and will continue to from time to time.


Anyways, back to the OPs question. I haven't used pink magic yet, but I can say that supplements should not be your primary focus. To make things even with this USP/AN thing I really liked Prime for strength gains. I had a solid diet on it and did a 5/3/1 powerlifting routine. Obviously these strength gains will result with an increase Euphoria and confident feeling.

To accompany this I think the addition of Free Test or HGHup would give you the benefit of Libido, great sleep, and an even larger confidence/Euphoria feeling.

Just from my experience this would be the stack I would target...while relying on food and calories to add on the majority of mass. Prime/HGHup will also help you to minimize fat gain while bulking on high calories (this was my observation).

Hopefully this helps, and lets all move on with this name calling, etc.

 

[southpaw23]

This is not always the case. I haven't been "paid with product" in over 9 months. Granted this is by my choice because I fully support the line regardless of if I receive items or not from them.

I like Prime from USP, I've recommended it to friends, and logged my results on here. I've used it multiple times as well and will continue to from time to time.


Anyways, back to the OPs question. I haven't used pink magic yet, but I can say that supplements should not be your primary focus. To make things even with this USP/AN thing I really liked Prime for strength gains. I had a solid diet on it and did a 5/3/1 powerlifting routine. Obviously these strength gains will result with an increase Euphoria and confident feeling.

To accompany this I think the addition of Free Test or HGHup would give you the benefit of Libido, great sleep, and an even larger confidence/Euphoria feeling.

Just from my experience this would be the stack I would target...while relying on food and calories to add on the majority of mass. Prime/HGHup will also help you to minimize fat gain while bulking on high calories (this was my observation).

Hopefully this helps, and lets all move on with this name calling, etc.

Understood, however admittedly that is of your own personal choice. It doesn't change the general dynamic of the relationship between rep & company, in any event I agree back to general point of the thread.

 

[SynergyIre]

I thought about purchasing products from a certain company in this thread, but since the guy who looks like he ate the entire cast of the Jersey Shore, decided he was going to insult someone who weighed 165lbs, and uses the word "bro" as an adjective, I think I'll spend my money elsewhere. You guys have fun I'm going to take my 160 pound frame and go get lit up with Jack3d.

Sadly I'm in the same boat.

 

[bubble boy]

I'm currently running PM/Alpha T2/Erase stack and although I'm 46 and may get more out of it than someone younger I have to say my strength is up and I add in Maximize V2and I'm wired for my entire workout.

 

[DAdams91982]

I'm currently running PM/Alpha T2/Erase stack and although I'm 46 and may get more out of it than someone younger I have to say my strength is up and I add in Maximize V2and I'm wired for my entire workout.

That is quite a stack. with your age a given, I am sure you are seeing quite an immediate effect.

 

[donorrell]

Free Test great name beyond that not much more that I can comment on...well, I do wish it success.

Not sure why you'd say that since ERASE and FREE TEST contain similar amounts of 3,7 Keto DHEA...(Free Test has slightly more plus other ingredients to maximize it's efficacy).

 

[DAdams91982]

I do love that PES get's drug into the conversation between two heavy hitters in the industry. We must be making a splash!

 

[AE14]

I do love that PES get's drug into the conversation between two heavy hitters in the industry. We must be making a splash!

certainly looks that way. Congrats

 

[DreamWeaver]

Hey guys I am sure all the products mentioned in this thread are pretty good. We can only tell our personal experiences with them. Other that that it's just talk.

 

[nattydisaster]

I'm currently running PM/Alpha T2/Erase stack and although I'm 46 and may get more out of it than someone younger I have to say my strength is up and I add in Maximize V2and I'm wired for my entire workout.

Good to hear! First time I have read someone running this stack, but certainly is a stack I think more should use

 

[Guest]

Just saying, that when USPLabs comments about his products, that's the main guy trying to push his product on you. That's like the head of Pfizer, literally the main guy, trying to tell you have Viagra, his company's product, is so great.

You are a little late to this Rodeo.

USPlabs has been a staple on this forum for 5 years. I don't have to do much pushing or convincing at this point.

I wasn't pushing a product just commenting on the attitude of attacking and acting high and mighty on a forum....

 

[Guest]

I agree but I actually consider myself a stud. The only women who are attracted to the bodybuilder types actually look like Jay Cutler themselves; albeit with much longer hair. I kid of course.

My main issue is with these "reps" taking this guy to task, for merely expressing an opinion. Whether you deem it to be informed or uninformed is irrelevant, as it is simply an OPINION. And then speaking down to him in a manner that is condescending, and then going even further by launching a personal attack on his weight, when the guy criticizing him clearly looks like a poor man's "Situation" from the Jersey Shore. Personally I could care less about which product is better, as I'm currently running Triazole and loving it.

I find the idea of a man commenting on another man's physique...hmmm, how do I put it...Amateurish at best. When an argument is lost or one is unable to debate intelligently stoop to name calling.

Of course you are a stud, Everyone is a stud on the internet...

 

[Guest]

Not sure why you'd say that since ERASE and FREE TEST contain similar amounts of 3,7 Keto DHEA...(Free Test has slightly more plus other ingredients to maximize it's efficacy).

I wish everyone success.

 

[saggy321]

Has anyone posted any bloodwork pre and post a PM cycle? Just curious as much of the opinion against PM is based upon a view that it only causes a minimal increase in testosterone.

 

[DreamWeaver]

Has anyone posted any bloodwork pre and post a PM cycle? Just curious as much of the opinion against PM is based upon a view that it only causes a minimal increase in testosterone.

Yah not so sure that PM boosts test significantly, it may but I don't notice some of the signs of increased test. I notive enhanced muscle volume and exceptional strength increase, but that may or may not be higher Testostorone. My point is if it showed that it did not significantly increase Test that wouldn't alter my opinion about the product. It works well for me so I will continue to use it. As far as price is concerned, I always keep a good enough inventory of these products that I can wait till it comes on sale. I rarely pay full price for anything.

 

[southpaw23]

I find the idea of a man commenting on another man's physique...hmmm, how do I put it...Amateurish at best. When an argument is lost or one is unable to debate intelligently stoop to name calling.

Of course you are a stud, Everyone is a stud on the internet...

My 65 year old neighbor considers me a stud...we even play Mahjong. I was joking about the stud comment, it's common knowledge that the only way to determine if you're a stud or not is to go on chatroulette...I know this because Google told me so.

 

[danieltx13]

Has anyone posted any bloodwork pre and post a PM cycle? Just curious as much of the opinion against PM is based upon a view that it only causes a minimal increase in testosterone.

This is before and after that was posted by a member on another site:

 

[nattydisaster]

Those are good results.

I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations in test boosters.

Dude was at 300 before taking it, below the average 25-35 year old, and closer to someone in their 50s.

After taking it he was at 550ish, average level of a late teen and above average for a young adult

That is perfect, in my opinion. Its like taking your test levels back to when you were in your prime. People forget these are natural test boosters, to expect something to increase dramatically is not realistic...it can only upregulate and already existing process in the body that functions on a negative feedback loop.

I would be weary of product that claim their test booster made guys go from 300 to 1200...unrealistic. I would like to see some bloodwork for a guy who starts at a range in the high 400's who is already at normal levels...im sure it would be similar

 

[nattydisaster]

Geeze that kid is 19...poor guy only has a baseline of 382

Still not as bad as my baseline of 42ng/dl when I was 22

 

[Guest]

Those are good results.


Dude was at 300 before taking it, below the average 25-35 year old, and closer to someone in their 50s.

After taking it he was at 550ish, average level of a late teen and above average for a young adult

That is perfect, in my opinion. Its like taking your test levels back to when you were in your prime. People forget these are natural test boosters, to expect something to increase dramatically is not realistic...it can only upregulate and already existing process in the body that functions on a negative feedback loop.

I would be weary of product that claim their test booster made guys go from 300 to 1200...unrealistic. I would like to see some bloodwork for a guy who starts at a range in the high 400's who is already at normal levels...im sure it would be similar

And Pink is much more than just a test booster....much much more!

I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations in test boosters. I honestly think all the MOAs make an AMAZING product not even including the test boosting benefits.


Nelumbo nucifera (stem and leaves) and Rhamnus nakaharai (stem)

These plants have a wide range of potentially exciting properties...

Certain compounds present in these plants have been shown in animal vitro to inhibit various subtypes of phosphodiesterase, an enzyme (technically, a class of enzymes) which degrades cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophostphae) and cGMP (cyclic guanosine monophosphate), cyclic nucleotide molecules which serve important roles in the human body (2).

By inhibiting these different subtypes of phosphodiesterase, cAMP and cGMP levels can be increased in different tissues...

First, by inhibiting the cAMP-phosphodiesterase in skeletal muscle, it is thought that an anti-catabolic effect can be seen by suppressing calcium and ATP-dependent proteolysis as shown in various animal studies (3-10).

By increasing intracellular cAMP in skeletal muscle and the consequential decrease in calcium and ATP-dependent proteolysis, a net positive protein balance may occur in muscle...
This is a rarely-exploited natural anti-catabolic/anabolic pathway...and a VERY exciting one to say the least...and we aren't even close to being done...

Potentialy Ripped Too?

Furthermore, by increasing cAMP in fat cells, lipolysis (fat breakdown) may also increase...
In fact, animal model studies and traditional Asian medicine have noted this exact thing, demonstrating increased lipolysis and anti-obesity properties (11-13).

That's Not All Folks – More MOA's

Amino & Glucose Transport

In addition to these effects, by inhibiting other subtypes of phosphodiesterase a vasodilatory effect can occur, allowing for increased amino acid and glucose transport to skeletal muscle, as demonstrated in various animal & human studies & review papers (2,14-17).

Pumped To The Gills While Cutting?

In addition, this vasodilatory effect can potentially lead to greater "pumps" and the feeling of fuller muscles, while also potentially increasing lipolysis (2,18).

Keeps Going Like That Bunny

Unlike various nitric oxide (NO) products which can lose their effectiveness over time, these compounds won’t follow in their footsteps.

Synergystic with Nitric Oxide Products?

In fact, as demonstrated in animal models, these compounds may prevent N.O. products from losing their effectiveness in the first place (19-23).

Additionally, these compounds may even increase or potentiate the effects of nitric oxide products(24).

How so, you ask?

Well, to answer that, we must look at how the beloved nitric oxide (N.O.) molecule allows for vasodilation and the subsequent benefits...

N.O. is involved in the NO/guanylyl (guanylate) cyclase/cyclic GMP-dependent cascade...

In effect, it is thought that the N.O. molecule works by binding to and activating soluble guanylyl (guanylate) cyclase, which in turn catalyzes the formation of cGMP from guanosine triphosphate (GTP).

Once the previously mentioned second messenger, cGMP accumulates intracellularly in the given cell/tissue type (in this case smooth muscle), activation of cGMP-dependent protein kinase (protein kinase G or PKG) occurs and eventually leads to vasodilation, in this particular case.

So, again, how might these ingredients prevent N.O. products from losing their effectiveness and possibly even potentiate their effects?

Well, it appears that one mechanism behind the reduction of N.O.'s effectiveness is an increase in the activity of cGMP-phosphodiesterase, which as we discussed earlier, is responsible for degrading cGMP...

Since the body can't stop you from ingesting compounds designed to increase N.O., it does the next best thing by increasing the expression of enzymes designed to reduce the downstream effectiveness of N.O....

In effect, it decreases levels of cGMP and thus reduces the level of vasodilation and other potential benefits...

However, since these compounds have demonstrated the ability to inhibit cGMP phosphodiesterase, this can not only work to prevent the decline ineffectiveness of N.O. products, it may even potentiate the effects of them through the same mechanism...

You'll have that N.O. product working to increase cGMP levels, while the key ingredients in Pink Magic prevent the degradation of cGMP, allowing you to maintain and even increase the beneficial effects seen with NO products!

Yet, unlike most N.O. products, these compounds won't succumb to decreased effectiveness through decreased cGMP levels.

Endurance

If this weren't enough, one may also notice an increase in resistance to fatigue as a result of direct effect upon skeletal muscle (i.e., cAMP accumulation in both type I [slow-twitch] and type II [fast-twitch] can result in a resistance or decrease of fatigue) and the diaphragm; furthermore, by increasing cGMP accumulation in other cell types, one can potentially increase blood flow and the contractility of the heart, also resulting in greater resistance to fatigue as demonstrated in specific animal studies (14,25).

Strong Like Bull

As if all that wasn't enough, as shown in animal models by inhibiting one of the phosphodiesterase subtypes, the contractility of skeletal muscles is increased. It is thought that this is accomplished by increasing the release of acetylcholine at the neuromuscular junction while also sensitizing it to acetylcholine. (26)

 

[nattydisaster]

And Pink is much more than just a test booster....much much more!

I think a lot of people have unrealistic expectations in test boosters. I honestly think all the MOAs make an AMAZING product not even including the test boosting benefits.

Agreed...when I read the produce writeup and the science on the anti-catabolic properties alone I was very impressed.

Personally...i thought that was the biggest breakthrough with the supplement, since I feel like no one has tackled a product with that particular MOA

 

[gymrat827]

save a few bucks and buy freeTEST PM isnt worth the price

 

[Guest]

Agreed...when I read the produce writeup and the science on the anti-catabolic properties alone I was very impressed.

Personally...i thought that was the biggest breakthrough with the supplement, since I feel like no one has tackled a product with that particular MOA

It's beautiful....

 

[Guest]

save a few bucks and buy freeTEST PM isnt worth the price

Fo sheezy!

 

[coldseed]

I currently use Diesel Test, but I am considering getting a bottle of Pink Magic.
Thoughts / opinions on this...
Thanks.

 

[Machete1018]

I actually ran hghup and free test and in a 4 wk cycle... my strength, recovery, and size all were amazing. I mean I felt just as strong when I did ph's in the past but more energetic and cut. At times I felt like I could eat anything I wanted like I was in my 20's and get away with it. I was still achieving great results in such a short amount of time. The only side I got from this combo was a bit of gas. Overall my body responded very well.

Anyway, I cycled off of everything for a month and am now on hghup and pink magic...I am still torn by my decision because of the mixed reviews pink was getting. Too much hype but I'm the type of person that needs to find out for myself. I'm on day four and so far I haven't noticed a whole lot. I need to wait maybe till week two or three to make a true assessment to see if PM is actually doing
something.

I'm a fan of both AP and USP....though I do think USP does go a bit overboard in marketing. I mean some off the reviews I have read on the internet to include forums are just to good to be true and some are even hilarious.

So far I like free test but well see about PM....later.

 

[nattydisaster]

I felt this review was appropriate for this thread:

I had two bottles of Pink Magic laying around so I am running them right now with Erase, results have been excellent. I recover instantly and strength is through the roof and I am only in week 5. I added Erase about 3 weeks ago and it instantly made things better in ever facet of this run. I would not run a natty test booster without it and most only need 2 per day, lasts 45 days then! :bigeyes:

 

[Rosie Chee]

I actually ran hghup and free test and in a 4 wk cycle... my strength, recovery, and size all were amazing. I mean I felt just as strong when I did ph's in the past but more energetic and cut. At times I felt like I could eat anything I wanted like I was in my 20's and get away with it. I was still achieving great results in such a short amount of time. The only side I got from this combo was a bit of gas. Overall my body responded very well.

Anyway, I cycled off of everything for a month and am now on hghup and pink magic...I am still torn by my decision because of the mixed reviews pink was getting. Too much hype but I'm the type of person that needs to find out for myself. I'm on day four and so far I haven't noticed a whole lot. I need to wait maybe till week two or three to make a true assessment to see if PM is actually doing
something.

I'm a fan of both AP and USP....though I do think USP does go a bit overboard in marketing. I mean some off the reviews I have read on the internet to include forums are just to good to be true and some are even hilarious.

So far I like free test but well see about PM....later.

FREE TEST is definitely an awesome product - stacking it with either HGHup (which it is designed to be stacked with) or IGF-2 gives great results.

Definitely give your current stack at LEAST a week to kick in and start noticing effects.

~Rosie~