There is NO problem with the batch being mentioned here . It has been tested a total of 3 times now and has been fine
why don't you just run havoc again? ? I loved it. Do what works for you.man f*ck this cel stuff. P-Plex didn't do anything at all. M-drol gave me pumps but after only 2.5weeks of p-plex and less than a week on m-drol my liver enzymes were in the 600's . They dropped immediately after stopping. M-drol also gave me TERRIBLE hot flashes, insomnia, mood-swings, and horrible anxiety that lasted 2-3 weeks into PCT. NOthing like havoc at all which I dosed at 50mg. I never gaineda single pound on both of those products and m-drol just made me feel like I was dying..definitely didn't work in any fashion as advertised. I had constant jittery adrenaline, no lethargy.
I really don't care what any of these reps have to say about their testing or where they get the raws from. Bottom line is these are clones and don't trust anything thats not prescription based with FDA research.
You are not going to see anything after 7 or 8 days of PP...
only 2 weeks of PP was a waste--
im sorry man i'm just saying what happened to me from m-drol has been one of the WORST experiences of my life.Well Monsterbox , CEL sent another bottle of this batch to be tested (FOR A 3RD TIME!!!) just for your satisfaction and it was fine....however there were NUMEROUS reasons pointed out to you as to why you were not seeing gains -yet you continue to bash:crackhead:
From now on I will probably not mess with anything hormonal for a LONG time. Maybe a few years. Havoc did wonders both times. I'm seriously life changlingly bigger and I don't need to get big fast anymore. I like the idea of the rest of my muscle being natural and therefore 100% keepable.why don't you just run havoc again? ? I loved it. Do what works for you.
yeah, maybe if you did your research a little better you would have been prepared and known this. wtf this sh1t aint candy and at 160lbs u probably arent ready anyway. What is wrong? It is a harsh steroid that is what is wrong, i swear people think this sh1t is for everyone, if you arent going to take it seriously then get out of the game, thats why sh1t gets banned and people get screwed up etc. Not gaining one pound with mdrol means your appetite is destroyed because its too strong for you or you dont really know what you are doing. With something as strong as mdrol it shouldnt be hard to gain at least a few pounds if that is your goalI am in mid of week 3 of my M-drol cycle....and starting a about 3 days ago, I get my heart pounding badly, chest pain, anxiety, lost apetite and lethargy when I dose M-drol.
Are these normal sides for week 3 ?
I heard week 3 is pretty harsh but f**** this ! It is preventing me from actually working out. I have not gained 1 lb since week 1 of m-drol, and now I getting all this nasty sides. I feel like crap when I dose it, and after 5-6h this symptons go away and I feel much better until I dose it again. What is wrong ????
Dude...you jump into conclusions way too fast. I ran other cycles before, and particularly this one is being different. With all your experience, you should know that people respond differently to compounds, and maybe my body type reacts differently that most of you. Btw, I did not respond to PPlex either.yeah, maybe if you did your research a little better you would have been prepared and known this. wtf this sh1t aint candy and at 160lbs u probably arent ready anyway. What is wrong? It is a harsh steroid that is what is wrong, i swear people think this sh1t is for everyone, if you arent going to take it seriously then get out of the game, thats why sh1t gets banned and people get screwed up etc. Not gaining one pound with mdrol means your appetite is destroyed because its too strong for you or you dont really know what you are doing. With something as strong as mdrol it shouldnt be hard to gain at least a few pounds if that is your goal
u asked what was wrong...
so what is the problem then? you are complaining about sides but you said you did your research, then you ask what is wrong? hmmm...
how old are you? If you arent making gains with steroids, even if you dont respond to pplex well, ur gonna respond to something esp mdrol....if you arent making gains then something else is wrong like your diet or training.
I took PP 20/30 (decided to stop the cycle here since I saw no gains)how much compound?
Hey monster...I guess we have similar body and receptor types cause I did not respond to PP at all either, and m-drol pretty much gave no gains, just sides like you....hopefully I wont crash in my PCT like you did man. That was scary sh**!You could be eating a normal maintenance diet and still feel pumps/increased aggression and body heat/sweating/endurance from a steroid like PP. I definitely felt havoc doing something positive in a matter of 3 days. I took PP for 3 weeks and ate over 4500+ calories, I only weight 180lbs. Felt nothing at all the entire time.
Once again PP does not kick in until the end of week 2 /beginning of week 3.I am on day 10 of P plex @ 30 mg/ day and nothing. No sides, no gains, just sore muscles from working out. My batch number 041508. I hope it kicks in. I know some stuff takes two weeks to kick in. I have some m1,4add too for a later cycle. I hope all my stuff isn't bunk!
How manyy calories are u taking in now on cycle(and how many before cycle). You are seperating the milk thistle and the PP by at least 3-4 hrs are'nt you?I am going into day 11 of Pplex (30 mg first week, now at 40 mg) and am starting to notice some small difference. Squat was up a solid 25 pounds today and pumps seem better. My weight is still holding steady at 174. Perhaps I am not eating enough? Are lots of carbs a key for success with Pplex? I am getting about 250 grams of protein per day.
Just start seperating the doses by 4 hrs~~that very well could be the problem there..Keep me posted here or by email/pmTotal calories before cycle were around 2500, I have them up to around 3500 now. And, no, I had not been putting about 4 hours between Pplex and the CEL Cycle Support as I would take them at the same time. By the way you asked, I assume that was a mistake? Any other suggestions to help out this cycle?
couldnt agree with you more, cycle when you ve exhausted your natural ability, and you have a champions diet, no sooner. It' s the reason that we will very soon have nothing that works.yeah, maybe if you did your research a little better you would have been prepared and known this. wtf this sh1t aint candy and at 160lbs u probably arent ready anyway. What is wrong? It is a harsh steroid that is what is wrong, i swear people think this sh1t is for everyone, if you arent going to take it seriously then get out of the game, thats why sh1t gets banned and people get screwed up etc. Not gaining one pound with mdrol means your appetite is destroyed because its too strong for you or you dont really know what you are doing. With something as strong as mdrol it shouldnt be hard to gain at least a few pounds if that is your goal
Hey Bro...I don't question CEL's reputation. Their products are indeed pretty good, otherwise, you wouldn't see so many fans on here. You may be right...mdrol is probably too harsh for my size, and since I couldn't eat very well while on, it made be feel like crap most of the time.hey guys!!!! COMPETITIVE EDGE LABS, without a doubt is the best company there is, I know this for a fact, steroids guys take time to bulid up in your system, they aren't simply magic beans, take one and grow, no I think not, E stane takes 3 weeks to kick in and when it does look out, p plex is similar, cant comment on m drol but if your 160lbs dont fckn use it, its harsh , noone denies that. I know AM pimps C.E.L but look around the entire internet, they are by leaps and bounds the most trusted company there is. PERIOD.
my liver is back to normal however I'm confused about a number of things., Ya you notice some pumps and a little vascularity, but the full effects take 2-3 weeks, it's pretty much common knowledge. The 19nor dienelone precursors kick in alot quicker, but the majorit take time to build up in your syestem. Also by the way, injectable's take a long time to fully begin to work as well. That being said, I noticed M1T in 3 days so I guess it all depends. In no way am I ripping anyone if they feel different on the matter.
Hey monster my friend, I read you had some liver issues after your last p-plex, m-drol bridge, everything ok with that? I hope things are back to normal for ya dude.
I dont recall any sleep problems on PP, but I have on several other cycles if i dosed later than 6pm or soPhera plex has worked great for me! Iv gained a pound a day for the last 10 days using it. Im amazed.
I have had some problems with insomnia lately though. Anyone else had problems with sleeping habits on PP?
Great !! Thanks for the feedback!:yeah:cel pp was amazing for me. 4 weeks gained 18+ pounds. diet was about 80% what it should have been overall, so definte room for improvement. took pictures at weekly intervals, obvious changes each week. i started to notice effects in 5 days or so. weight gain didnt seem to kick in really until late week 2. got bad lethargy at very end but 10 out of 10 rating from me. just amazing.
You bridged PP after SD????? Could be a possibility you are shutdown??Thats one bridge i would not recommend doingWhen I took ax brand pp I noticed blood pressure increases in the first couple days. I notice nothing. I have lost strength and all the weight superdrol added. I did not want to end my cycle so soon. A cel rep needs to pm me.
The superdrol I used was the same as the orig but in pre powder form. The best out. For those who know what I'm talking abt. It's hard to find these days and I sure as he'll would have kept running it but I ran out.
How can you judge the PP after being already shhutdown from the SD??:boggled:Yes, i am shut down. that happens with real steroids. i don't know what is in these PP caps but it is VERY diluted from what used to be sold, even if it's the same chemical structure. I am now at 50 mg a day. I will let everyone know if i honestly see anything or not.