VersatileGG
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Good evening everyone. Has anyone here ever dealt with true overtraining? Or 'overtraining syndrome' as they call it? This is more geared towards natural bodybuilders who train intensely several times a week and EAT and SLEEP good.
Background: I've been natural bodybuilding for around 5-6 years (15-21) and have progressively gotten stronger. At age 21 I've hit some of the craziest numbers ever. (4 plate barbell row, 3 plate bench, 4-5plate squat, 5-6 plate rack pulls, 2 plate curls) at my peak.. these were all done for REPS!! I kept at around this high intensity with high volume for along time, progressing slowly even with bad sleep, however I hit a crutch and progressively began to get weaker. I know why am I training if I'm getting weaker, well simply because the gym is my happy place. I probably lost around 30% strength at this point...
Moreover, I've noticed something I've brushed off for a long time now. My sleep has been fragmented for probably a whole year or more now. I wake up 2-3 times a night and never seem to get in "deep sleep". I see in my face I look tired as their are bags. I even developed a form of anhedonia (not sure if this is related to overtraining). I don't feel adrenaline.. at all! It's very frustrating and depressing. Don't feel pleasure.
Moreover, my physique and progress has STALLED hard, which I attribute to the sleep as I eat a high quality organic diet.
I'm really trying to fix this problem so I guess my main questions here are:
Does this sound like overtraining syndrome?
What are symptoms you've had from it?
How can I quickly return to normal?!
Can I train or no training at all?
Also because I'm natural I thought mega dosing high quality natural T boosters would help (alternative to TRT) tongkat ali, black maca, cistanche, cordyceps but they haven't at all. Not sure if they are making matters worse...? Can I continue these as I recover?
Also I doubt it's sleep apnea as I don't snore or choke in my sleep. I just wake up suddenly.
Background: I've been natural bodybuilding for around 5-6 years (15-21) and have progressively gotten stronger. At age 21 I've hit some of the craziest numbers ever. (4 plate barbell row, 3 plate bench, 4-5plate squat, 5-6 plate rack pulls, 2 plate curls) at my peak.. these were all done for REPS!! I kept at around this high intensity with high volume for along time, progressing slowly even with bad sleep, however I hit a crutch and progressively began to get weaker. I know why am I training if I'm getting weaker, well simply because the gym is my happy place. I probably lost around 30% strength at this point...
Moreover, I've noticed something I've brushed off for a long time now. My sleep has been fragmented for probably a whole year or more now. I wake up 2-3 times a night and never seem to get in "deep sleep". I see in my face I look tired as their are bags. I even developed a form of anhedonia (not sure if this is related to overtraining). I don't feel adrenaline.. at all! It's very frustrating and depressing. Don't feel pleasure.
Moreover, my physique and progress has STALLED hard, which I attribute to the sleep as I eat a high quality organic diet.
I'm really trying to fix this problem so I guess my main questions here are:
Does this sound like overtraining syndrome?
What are symptoms you've had from it?
How can I quickly return to normal?!
Can I train or no training at all?
Also because I'm natural I thought mega dosing high quality natural T boosters would help (alternative to TRT) tongkat ali, black maca, cistanche, cordyceps but they haven't at all. Not sure if they are making matters worse...? Can I continue these as I recover?
Also I doubt it's sleep apnea as I don't snore or choke in my sleep. I just wake up suddenly.