Orangatang goes ANDRO

[Rodja]

Home stretch...

 

[Orangatang]

Home stretch...

Summer starts June 9th And hopefully I will be ready. I sorta blew it by taking the epi. I was planning on entering that awesome PP promo. I even reserved a spot then forgot about the no anabolic policy. i still might send it in explaining how great Androlean is for a stack

 

[ConcreteConny]

Can't wait for the final review

//CC

 

[Orangatang]

Can't wait for the final review

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thanks for hanging in there on this long asss log lol. But I'm pleased with the progress (but obviously not satisfied yet :firedevil

 

[ryansm]

Who wants to be satisfied, then there is no challenge.

 

[Orangatang]

Who wants to be satisfied, then there is no challenge.

agreed! nothing can be accomplished without a goal in mind

 

[NADDANME]

Who wants to be satisfied, then there is no challenge.

Save the satisfaction for your golden years.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Save the satisfaction for your golden years.

These are his golden years... the platinum and diamond ages are coming :trink26:

 

[Orangatang]

These are his golden years... the platinum and diamond ages are coming :trink26:

hahaha thanks man you guys are like fine scotch, you just get better with age.

As for me: Today weight is back up to 165.7lbs, I feel like the epi is starting to work. Muscles look fuller and apetite is up, however im not eating any more.

 

[mich29]

great stuff I'm readying and trying to catch up to date

 

[Orangatang]

great stuff I'm readying and trying to catch up to date

glad you found this, 12 days there will be pics from Last november, the first day of this cycle and current. I feel like a new man (or at least upgraded version lol)

 

[HereToStudy]

glad you found this, 12 days there will be pics from Last november, the first day of this cycle and current. I feel like a new man (or at least upgraded version lol)

Always a good feeling!

 

[NADDANME]

hahaha thanks man you guys are like fine scotch, you just get better with age.

As for me: Today weight is back up to 165.7lbs, I feel like the epi is starting to work. Muscles look fuller and apetite is up, however im not eating any more.

Now that you added the Epi how long of a cycle is this turning out to be and what where you going to run for PCT. if you don't mind me asking.

 

[Orangatang]

Now that you added the Epi how long of a cycle is this turning out to be and what where you going to run for PCT. if you don't mind me asking.

Total Length: 9 weeks and 12 Days

PCT: 4 weeks total.
Consisting of:
Toremifene Citrate: 90mg for 3 days, 60mg for 11 days, 30mg for 14 days
AI: Post Cycle Support
PES: Erase
Bulk DAA + Calcium Lactate (3grams and 1.3 grams respectively)

Also I'm going to use up the rest of the bottle of 7keto spray I have

 

[Milas]

topical 7-keto lowers testosterone. May want to save it for after PCT...

 

[Rodja]

Total Length: 9 weeks and 12 Days

PCT: 4 weeks total.
Consisting of:
Toremifene Citrate: 90mg for 3 days, 60mg for 11 days, 30mg for 14 days
AI: Post Cycle Support
PES: Erase
Bulk DAA + Calcium Lactate (3grams and 1.3 grams respectively)

Also I'm going to use up the rest of the bottle of 7keto spray I have

7-spray by Prototype?

 

[Orangatang]

7-spray by Prototype?

Yes.

 

[NADDANME]

Total Length: 9 weeks and 12 Days

PCT: 4 weeks total.
Consisting of:
Toremifene Citrate: 90mg for 3 days, 60mg for 11 days, 30mg for 14 days
AI: Post Cycle Support
PES: Erase
Bulk DAA + Calcium Lactate (3grams and 1.3 grams respectively)

Also I'm going to use up the rest of the bottle of 7keto spray I have

Thanks just curious. That's a pretty long run without any HCG. I hope you bounce back well. Don't think my little ol raisens could handle that long. Curious if this Andro prove less harsh on shut down. I start my PCT on Saturday.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

topical 7-keto lowers testosterone. May want to save it for after PCT...

???? I've heard it can lower estrogen, but testosterone?

 

[Orangatang]

Thanks just curious. That's a pretty long run without any HCG. I hope you bounce back well. Don't think my little ol raisens could handle that long. Curious if this Andro prove less harsh on shut down. I start my PCT on Saturday.

I'm pretty sure If i just ran the androlean for 8 weeks I would need little pct. I wish I did bloods but like no shutdown at all that I noticed. And i got shut down on hdrol in 26 days so i know what its like

 

[Orangatang]

???? I've heard it can lower estrogen, but testosterone?

yeah wtf does topical 7 keto lower test???

 

[Milas]

yeah wtf does topical 7 keto lower test???

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.biomed.cas.cz/physiolres/...df/sulcova.pdf

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/164045-topical-7-keto-14.html

Theres not a possibility here...there is a study done on humans on transdermal 7-keto decreasing testosterone. More important than the decrease in T and the raise in SHBG.

Find one that shows it doesnt have a negative effect on T or SHBG and then your argument is valid

Not trying to go against the product, it is what it is...your statement basically just says "studies on humans dont really mean anything"

It is a good product, IF you know what you are doing with it. it is great for a recomp and solid for cortisol. But you shouldnt be telling people that it wont effect your testosterone or that they should use it in PCT (not saying you did). Taking it in PCT would be extremely counterproductive

 

[Orangatang]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.biomed.cas.cz/physiolres/...df/sulcova.pdf

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/164045-topical-7-keto-14.html

BOOOOOOOOM!

Milas FTW!!!

 

[BigBlackGuy]

Dang that's wild, never knew that

 

[Orangatang]

Sadly, i took my last 6 caps of ANDROlean today. A few more days of Epi then rolling into pct.

i love anabolics man but I'm prone to acne. like i have 3 prescriptions to combat normal acne, and this cycle has been hell on my dermis

 

[rulk22]

Sadly, i took my last 6 caps of ANDROlean today. A few more days of Epi then rolling into pct.

i love anabolics man but I'm prone to acne. like i have 3 prescriptions to combat normal acne, and this cycle has been hell on my dermis

May you have a seemingly short pct and quickly move into your next cycle ; )

 

[NADDANME]

May you have a seemingly short pct and quickly move into your next cycle ; )

seem·ing·ly/ˈsēmiNGlē/Adverb
1. So as to give the impression of having a certain quality.
:think:
Not sure thats what you meant to say maybe exceedingly.
I know i know i'm being a :*******: we all knew what you meant just giving you a hard time.LOL ( i just like to pick because i do it all the time )

 

[HereToStudy]

Sadly, i took my last 6 caps of ANDROlean today. A few more days of Epi then rolling into pct.

i love anabolics man but I'm prone to acne. like i have 3 prescriptions to combat normal acne, and this cycle has been hell on my dermis

Well having 3 Rx off cycle, you know what you are getting into. As long as you are able to manage it though its not bad.

 

[BigBlackGuy]

seem·ing·ly/ˈsēmiNGlē/Adverb
1. So as to give the impression of having a certain quality.
:think:
Not sure thats what you meant to say maybe exceedingly.
I know i know i'm being a :*******: we all knew what you meant just giving you a hard time.LOL ( i just like to pick because i do it all the time )

What he means is, your PCT will not be short, but it will be so enjoyable that it will feel as though it was short. :bigok:

lol

 

[ryansm]

What he means is, your PCT will not be short, but it will be so enjoyable that it will feel as though it was short. :bigok:

lol

brilliant concept

 

[Orangatang]

May you have a seemingly short pct and quickly move into your next cycle ; )

seem·ing·ly/ˈsēmiNGlē/Adverb
1. So as to give the impression of having a certain quality.
:think:
Not sure thats what you meant to say maybe exceedingly.
I know i know i'm being a :*******: we all knew what you meant just giving you a hard time.LOL ( i just like to pick because i do it all the time )

What he means is, your PCT will not be short, but it will be so enjoyable that it will feel as though it was short. :bigok:

lol

brilliant concept

Well I can assure you that PCT will be full and thorough! Anabolics are fun by my i (and my lineage) need my endocrine system in tact so i will pct and take 8 weeks off before attempting anything else. :yup:

'merica! :usa:

 

[Rodja]

Maybe smooth would have been a better word to use?

 

[Milas]

I checked with Orangatang, and he's cool with a quick hi-jack:

Please check out this thread and help decide who REALLY made the biggest transformation over the last 3 months. There are a lot of 1-post wonders added in May 2011 voting, but the REAL AM members should make the choice!

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/needtobuildmuscle-mrsupps/174746-needtobuildmuscle-nutraplanet-transformation.html#post2860436

Thanks!

 

[Orangatang]

I checked with Orangatang, and he's cool with a quick hi-jack:

Please check out this thread and help decide who REALLY made the biggest transformation over the last 3 months. There are a lot of 1-post wonders added in May 2011 voting, but the REAL AM members should make the choice!

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/needtobuildmuscle-mrsupps/174746-needtobuildmuscle-nutraplanet-transformation.html#post2860436

Thanks!

Yeah GTFIT and vote if you don't mind gents

 

[ConcreteConny]

Topcial 7-Keto, does that lowering test scenario go for oral also I presume?!

//CC

 

[Orangatang]

THE END!

Well friends this is the end!

The first pic is me November firsts 2010, the others are me today. Thank you for checkin this log out. I appreciate your input

Gonna upp the cardio big time during pct and still try and lose this fat that wont leave

 

[JoHNnyNuTZ]

Getting Lean and mean. Good stuff man!!!

 

[ryansm]

Big difference, good job and thanks for the log bud!

 

[HereToStudy]

Wow, great progress!

 

[NADDANME]

Nice job definfitly see a big difference.

 

[Orangatang]

Getting Lean and mean. Good stuff man!!!

Big difference, good job and thanks for the log bud!

Wow, great progress!

Nice job definfitly see a big difference.

Thank you all for the kind words,

Summer is close so I will be kicking up the cardio intensely to try and get ready

 

[Milas]

Getting lean and fit looking, keep it up. Next will come a lean bulk I have a feeling...

 

[Orangatang]

Getting lean and fit looking, keep it up. Next will come a lean bulk I have a feeling...

YES! I'm thinking trenazone and androhard, but maybe in like 3 months or so when i cut the rest of this unsightly fat off my abs

 

[Milas]

Yeah, I'd give it a good 3 months or so going natty anyway.

I'm doing a lean bulk now, and it's working pretty well with LeanGains / Intermittent Fasting. Strength/size/aesthetics are improving, though I'm definitely not as lean as I was for competition, but I'm enjoying life/eating much more!

 

[Orangatang]

Yeah, I'd give it a good 3 months or so going natty anyway.

I'm doing a lean bulk now, and it's working pretty well with LeanGains / Intermittent Fasting. Strength/size/aesthetics are improving, though I'm definitely not as lean as I was for competition, but I'm enjoying life/eating much more!

I'm going to start leangains as soon as i can get some coin for bulk bcaa's. And yes i will be natty for that 3 months fo sho! Deeez nuts need a break

 

[Milas]

I'm going to start leangains as soon as i can get some coin for bulk bcaa's. And yes i will be natty for that 3 months fo sho! Deeez nuts need a break

PM'd.

Also, I tried the new AI Sports RecoverPro Raspberry. It's a good deal, you can find it as cheap as $32 for 1000g. It's a 4:1:1 blend, so plenty of leucine which is what counts IMO. Makes it cheaper too! That's probably the best price for a flavored BCAA you'll get.

 

[ryansm]

PM'd.

Also, I tried the new AI Sports RecoverPro Raspberry. It's a good deal, you can find it as cheap as $32 for 1000g. It's a 4:1:1 blend, so plenty of leucine which is what counts IMO. Makes it cheaper too! That's probably the best price for a flavored BCAA you'll get.

That is a good price...how do you like the raspberry flavor?

 

[Milas]

That is a good price...how do you like the raspberry flavor?

Got my samples last night, tried the 2 RecoverPros this morning with 12oz water.

Raspberry RecoverPro 7/10 - Not enough berry flavor IMO, and not quite sweet/tart enough for my personal taste with raspberries, but close. There were a lot of leucine floaties in there after 1-2 minutes of shaking, so 4:1:1 definitely in there! I could drink it daily without a problem, but it isn't like Watermelon Xtend which I will compulsively drink. I'd put this a little better than BC+EAA watermelon-kiwi for mixability and taste. The dissolving leucine is my main sticking point, though I do like 4:1:1 mixes. I may consider buying the big tub of this for my daily BCAA needs, based on value per serving and 4:1:1 ratio.

Lemon RecoverPro 6/10 - Whoa, that's tart! Not sweet enough IMO for sure! I don't think I could drink this regularly at the concentration I used (12oz water). Perhaps though it'd be (much) better dilluted to my standard 1L bottle for a nice light lemon flavor. I would've liked to try that now in retrospect. The floaties were not as much a problem surprisingly. I probably won't buy this since I don't know how it will dillute to larger volumes.

 

[Orangatang]

Got my samples last night, tried the 2 RecoverPros this morning with 12oz water.

Raspberry RecoverPro 7/10 - Not enough berry flavor IMO, and not quite sweet/tart enough for my personal taste with raspberries, but close. There were a lot of leucine floaties in there after 1-2 minutes of shaking, so 4:1:1 definitely in there! I could drink it daily without a problem, but it isn't like Watermelon Xtend which I will compulsively drink. I'd put this a little better than BC+EAA watermelon-kiwi for mixability and taste. The dissolving leucine is my main sticking point, though I do like 4:1:1 mixes. I may consider buying the big tub of this for my daily BCAA needs, based on value per serving and 4:1:1 ratio.

Lemon RecoverPro 6/10 - Whoa, that's tart! Not sweet enough IMO for sure! I don't think I could drink this regularly at the concentration I used (12oz water). Perhaps though it'd be (much) better dilluted to my standard 1L bottle for a nice light lemon flavor. I would've liked to try that now in retrospect. The floaties were not as much a problem surprisingly. I probably won't buy this since I don't know how it will dillute to larger volumes.

I will say i had a slightly different experience with the lemon. I mixed it with probably 16oz of water. I thought it was pleasant and tasty. Just a light (albeit very artificial tasting) lemon flavor

 

[ConcreteConny]

Awesome progress bruther! As the others stated, there is a significant difference! Good job bud :thumbsup:

//CC